Similar to Logic Pro?

[Tahakki]

I was talking to someone who had a USB keyboard connected to his Macbook, and was using a program called Logic Pro to apply loads of different effects and sounds to it.

Is there anything similar for Linux? I tried LMMS with ZynAddSubFX, but it didn't seem to have a great selection of instruments.

Help?

[AutoStatic]

You mean an USB MIDI keyboard? And then playing sounds with it?
- ZynAddSubFX (stand-alone, not the LMMS plugin)
- Hexter
- Calf Organ and Monosynth
- Bristol
- aeolus
- LinuxSampler

[atomizer]

the linux music-edit programs are not as good as Logic-pro or Cubase.

Just like Adobe Photoshop vs. Gimp.

[Tahakki]

Thanks. Of all those, which would you say is the best with regard to numbers of instruments and user-friendliness?

[AutoStatic]

the linux music-edit programs are not as good as Logic-pro or Cubase.You're right, I'm going to give the SAE (http://www.sae.edu/en-gb/content/80/Ardour_-_SAE_Edition) a call right away that they are using inferior software!

Just like Adobe Photoshop vs. Gimp.Try using Photoshop with Wine, it's a nightmare (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14318). Gimp on the other hand runs flawlessly on all my Ubuntu machines. So I think Photoshop is not as good as Gimp, it doesn't even install properly!

Just being ironic, but open source software can definitely be as good as commercial closed source stuff. In most cases it's just different.

[barisurum]

Logic pro is a comprehensive multitrack audio-midi workstation application currently developed by german emagic which is part of apple. The program uses apple's proprietary AU plugin standard which is Mac-OSX only and will not work in linux. If you're looking for a professional sound and midi tool linux is not the choice. Perhaps 5 years later...

[AutoStatic]

Thanks. Of all those, which would you say is the best with regard to numbers of instruments and user-friendliness?Number of instruments? ZynAddSubFX and Hexter I think. Oh, and I forget Wsynth/Xsynth, maybe that's worth checking out too.

[Tahakki]

I have found linux to be inferior in almost all types of software. I use it because it's so much less annoying and bloated than windows. Is the zyn lmms plugin much different to the actual thing?

[thorgal]

If you're looking for a professional sound and midi tool linux is not the choice. Perhaps 5 years later...

hi there. I would say something a little different: "professional" should rather be applied to an attitude, not really a tool. Are you using your computer / OS / software apps with a pro attitude ? This to me is the real question and it is not 5 years from now you can answer that, "perhaps" ;)

[barisurum]

@thorgal

hi thorgal. good to see you both in ubuntu and ardour forums. By saying "professional" I mean a tool which is widely recognised as a standard in a respective industry, for example music, filmmaking, tv or advertisement etc. Neither ardour nor gimp can be considered likely. And I think linux's recognition as a professional platform will not happen until software companies like adobe, steinberg, apple(!) and others will make ports of their software to linux. It is hard to say that linux and FOSS tools will make it happen by themselves... Its your turn :D

[VertexPusher]

Logic pro is a comprehensive multitrack audio-midi workstation application currently developed by german emagic which is part of apple. The program uses apple's proprietary AU plugin standard which is Mac-OSX only and will not work in linux. If you're looking for a professional sound and midi tool linux is not the choice. Perhaps 5 years later...
BS.

Look at the technology used by professionals in the 1980s or 1990s. It was utter crap compared to what we get for free in Linux now. Yet for some reason, those old records still get played, the people who made them still earn tons of money, and their audiences still fill up one football stadium after another.

Popular music of the 1980s and 1990s was defined by no more than 4 groundbreaking electronic instruments: Fairlight CMI, Roland TR-808, Yamaha DX-7, and Roland TB-303. The Fairlight alone, at the time it came out, would cost as much as a house. It came with a monochrome screen, a lightpen and an 8inch floppy drive. The capabilities of these devices were ridiculous by today's standards. Yet they spawned almost two decades of hit records, because the users of those tools were creative people, not a bunch of whiners crying "Perhaps 5 years later...".

Your success as a music producer is not a matter of how many plugins you have at your disposal. Most of them are redundant anyway. What's the point of having e.g. 10 different plugins for FM synthesis if one of them gets the job done as well?

[barisurum]

@VertexBuffer
It was thorgal's turn but thanks for the speedy slap ouch! :D

1. In a world of automation its insane to offer producers technology of 10 years ago.
2. Linux's technology is not 10 years ago whatsoever. Its much more advanced than that but the point is it does not comply with the standards the fully automated and time is money industry lives in.

[AutoStatic]

Is the zyn lmms plugin much different to the actual thing?No not really, both have 200+ presets.

[thorgal]

2. Linux's technology is not 10 years ago whatsoever. Its much more advanced than that but the point is it does not comply with the standards the fully automated and time is money industry lives in.


If you're looking for a professional sound and midi tool linux is not the choice. Perhaps 5 years later...


these two statements mean slightly different things.

What you may want to say is:

the adoption of linux-audio by the music industry will perhaps happen in 5 years.

You can of course tell me if I understand you wrong. If I am correct in my understanding, I would say : maybe so. But to me it does not have to do much with professionalism. In fact, I won't think we will see a big endorsement of linux by the music industry (if by industry, you mean the big studios, producers, etc, that seem to struggle a bit these days: see thewombforums.com for example, in particular the Music Industry 2.0 discussion thread ;) The party seem over for these guys, if you listen to them). All this is truly a matter of perspective to me. If you want to make some big bucks with music, you have to comply with the demand from the crowd out-there. And linux can help you create an answer to this demand if you know how to use it and are able, regardless of the tools, to understand the demand in the first place. If your goal is not the big money but your own enjoyment, linux can also do the job if you know how to use it. That's my opinion of course and as such is probably biased toward linux because that's the tool I know best for PC based music creation.

[barisurum]

Hey thanks for the link, great site and fun to read by the way! :) I'm not hopeless about industries adopting linux. The main requisite for this to happen is good drivers for hardware, then good software written or ported to use the hardware efficiently.
For example OpenCL support and programs that efficiently use that support will be a must for every calculation intensive app (audio apps too) in the future. Its good to know both proprietary and open source drivers or projects like Gallium3D support or will support this feature in linux. But again its hard to change an industry's habits, its because I give a figure of 5 years. And yes you understood me correctly, perhaps I could explain myself better in my first post. Cheers!