polypaudio gone

[monchichi]

Hi all,

I'm just wondering why polypaudio was pulled from the repos? I found it to be drastically better than esd, not to mention actively developed... esd development stopped some 5 or 6 years ago. I'm sure there's a good reason, I'm just curious what it is...?

And also, am I hallucinating or was there some talk a while back of dropping esd altogether to be replaced by alsa/dmix? Is this still a possiblity?

[moopere]

Hi all,

I'm just wondering why polypaudio was pulled from the repos? I found it to be drastically better than esd, not to mention actively developed... esd development stopped some 5 or 6 years ago. I'm sure there's a good reason, I'm just curious what it is...?

And also, am I hallucinating or was there some talk a while back of dropping esd altogether to be replaced by alsa/dmix? Is this still a possiblity?

I think polypaudio was dropped from Debian because there has not been an update since late 2004 - I thought I saw mention of this fact a while ago on debian weekly news.

Go to the polypaudio website (freshmeat.net should have a link) - it really doesn't appear to have progressed at all since the buggy version we had for a while with the hoary previews.

Craig

[wout.wepsait.com]

Hi all,

I'm just wondering why polypaudio was pulled from the repos? I found it to be drastically better than esd, not to mention actively developed... esd development stopped some 5 or 6 years ago. I'm sure there's a good reason, I'm just curious what it is...?

And also, am I hallucinating or was there some talk a while back of dropping esd altogether to be replaced by alsa/dmix? Is this still a possiblity?

I believe esd is being droped in favor of gstreamer. But I could be wrong

[monchichi]

I think polypaudio was dropped from Debian because there has not been an update since late 2004 - I thought I saw mention of this fact a while ago on debian weekly news.

Go to the polypaudio website (freshmeat.net should have a link) - it really doesn't appear to have progressed at all since the buggy version we had for a while with the hoary previews.

Craig
That's a pity, I found polypaudio to be leaps and bounds ahead of esd in terms of features and improvements-- and I came across no horrible bugs. I guess my experience differs.


believe esd is being droped in favor of gstreamer. But I could be wrong
Can anyone confirm this? Is this just in regards to system sounds? I'm not sure I understand how gstreamer can do this otherwise... wouldn't gstreamer support then have to be programmed into everything that uses sound? Or is there some sort of gstreamer sound server that I don't know about?

[mayco]

Can anyone confirm this? Is this just in regards to system sounds? I'm not sure I understand how gstreamer can do this otherwise... wouldn't gstreamer support then have to be programmed into everything that uses sound? Or is there some sort of gstreamer sound server that I don't know about?
There were plans to remove esd and make the gnome system sounds use gstreamer directly (what would be wonderfull!!), but AFAIK this isn't being done...
You forgot that even with gstreamer, programs still can access alsa directly, ans since afaik there is no program that can't use alsa, but can esd, this is no problem. There is no gstreamer sound server, programs that want to make sound will have to use alsa (with dmix) directly.

[monchichi]

That's what I thought-- but then wouldn't it make sense for dmix to be used by default? This seems like the best way to approach it.

[mayco]

That's what I thought-- but then wouldn't it make sense for dmix to be used by default? This seems like the best way to approach it.
That's what happened since hoary :) dmix is enabled by default :)

[monchichi]

Hmm.. .I just installed a vanilla Dapper last week and I definitely did NOT have dmix. If I tried to play two sounds and once, the screen would lock up and I'd have to switch to a console and kill one of the conflicting programs. And it's been that way for me since long before hoary.

I've always had to set up dmixing myself-- maybe it's because I have pro-audio sound cards? (maudio delta series), all ice1712 based.

Also, there was no /etc/asound.conf nor ~/.asoundrc file to signify that dmix was being used. Unless there's some other way to employ the alsa dmix plug that I don't know about?