No more GIMP in Ubuntu!!!

[QuinceARJ]

GIMP will be replaced by F-Spot , which is not really what we called an image manipulation program. not cool!
http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2009112503135OSCY

[T.R.]

They're just removing it from the install disk. If it's already on your system it won't be removed by the upgrade. It'll still be available from the repositories and "Software Centre" for anyone who needs it after a fresh install.

[wersdaluv]

Is it really about *replacing* GIMP with F-spot? F-spot has always been in Ubuntu. It's more of like simply removing GIMP

Does F-spot have new editing feautures? hmmm

[jsgotangco]

Yes. It makes sense because GIMP is a full-blow manipulation tool while F-spot is about management and simple editing. Think Picasa, Lightroom and iPhoto.

You can confidently say that 80% of home users have no need of a Photoshop or similar tool but that same percentage require a photo management tool at the very least.

[loell]

at first i was like :shock: , but then they'll include Pitivi so I :biggrin:nd..

[jsgotangco]

Yes Ubuntu is shaped as a consumer OS (which makes sense as the least common denominator).

[Script Warlock]

kdenlive or lives is more mature than ptv....

[loell]

yes that was also pointed out in UDS, but since it's the video editor that uses Gstreamer it is more aligned in Gnome compared to others, the developer is also collaborating with Ubuntu, stressing out that by the time Lucid Lynx, it will be usable and solid for very basic video editing.

[_duncan_]

Is it possible it has something to do with disk space? To remain a 1-CD distro, something has to give sooner or later. The core packages keeps getting bigger and additional must-have packages are inserted with every release.

I don't know if it's with the same reasoning that the Fedora 12 Live CD does not include the OpenOffice suite anymore. Even without OO, the current Fedora CD is already at 650 MB (in contrast, Karmic is close to 700 MB).

Just wondering...

[loell]

disk space is probably one of the issues, but the decision isn't really based on that.

ars has this in perspective, http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/11/giving-up-the-gimp-is-a-sign-of-ubuntus-mainstream-maturity.ars

[Grenage]

It is a good decision; your average user doesn't want something so complicated for basic tasks.

[_duncan_]

disk space is probably one of the issues, but the decision isn't really based on that.

ars has this in perspective, http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/11/giving-up-the-gimp-is-a-sign-of-ubuntus-mainstream-maturity.ars

Thanks for the link. The arguments cited seems logical.

If I'm Canonical though, I will still include a shadow menu entry of GIMP in the default install, sort of a placeholder. Then, when the user clicks on GIMP, the user will be prompted if s/he would like to download and install the GIMP packages from the Ubuntu repos. It ought to make the transition to a GIMP-less Lucid Lynx smoother for hard-core GIMP users.

[creek23]

kahit maglagay man lang sana sila ng other lighter alternative for simple image editing just as how Windows comes with MS Paint.

[Script Warlock]

cguro mas maganda digikam for ubuntu di lang pang kubuntu....

[jsgotangco]

kahit maglagay man lang sana sila ng other lighter alternative for simple image editing just as how Windows comes with MS Paint.

Paint is more like image creation (drawing tool) than manipulation (image editing) right (http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/mspaint_overview.mspx?mfr=true) ? Something like bitmap drawing is OK I guess but for image editing, F-spot already has some basic functionality.

[jepong]

Latest news/rumor about this eh Paint.Mono (Paint.Net) na daw ipapalit sa GIMP... the news came from boycottnovell.com so i guess its just another mono bashing article... lol

http://boycottnovell.com/2009/11/20/gimp-removed-from-ubuntu/

[jsgotangco]

Just to put things in perspective, even the GIMP folks (even Sven) think this is proper.

https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-developer/2009-November/023779.html

If the one of the prime movers of GIMP says so, who are we to argue? :)

[Script Warlock]

Just to put things in perspective, even the GIMP folks (even Sven) think this is proper.

https://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/lists/gimp-developer/2009-November/023779.html

If the one of the prime movers of GIMP says so, who are we to argue? :)

tama nga naman....

[Samhain13]

As long as I can get it from the repos, it's all good. :D

[jaceleon]

Ayos lang yun, kung ang meaning ng pagtanggal sa GIMP sa main apps ng default install ay magdadagdag sila ng compatibility on more hardware (laking issue ngayon ng G. Tattoo dito.)

At hindi naman nasabi na tatanggalin yun sa repo, so obtainable pa rin naman. Okay lang yun.

In my case kasi, ina-uninstall ko yun para mag-install ng GIMPShop, mas okay sa akin yun e...

[ysNoi]

Objection your honor..!

GIMP is still on Ubuntu..! Tested on Lucid installed as Guest OS with VBox...

I'm on Alpha...

[jepong]

cguro mas maganda digikam for ubuntu di lang pang kubuntu....

Kung simpleng image crop lang or resize pwede nyo na gamitin KDE's Gwenview.

And may natutunan pala ako last week na bago (sa akin)... pwede ka pala mag mass upload to facebook (and other services like picasaweb and flickr) using digikam (kipi-plugins)

[Samhain13]

Bakit nga kaya hindi na lang Phatch ang ilagay nila? Dami pa man din nagagawa yun. Nga lang kasi, wala yatang previewer kaya baka mahirapan ang mga tao.