Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

[x3roconf]

Do you like Call of Duty series? Will you buy MW2? :p

[coldReactive]

No and no.

Because I really, really dislike shooters. The only exception is Megaman Legends.

[chris4585]

I love COD, and yes, I will indeed be buying Modern Warfare 2.

[x3roconf]

No and no.

Because I really, really dislike shooters. The only exception is Megaman Legends.

Why you dislike shooters?

[coldReactive]

Why you dislike shooters?

I'd rather buy a game for a story, like RPGs, than to shoot everything I see.

[Zoot7]

I played through the first one; I was very impressed with it, especially the multiplayer.

[pwnst*r]

i've been playing the CoD series since it's start on the PC. i won't be buying MW2 because of lack of support for dedicated servers though.

[chris4585]

I just want Co-Op so me and my friend can play it together. There are so very few PS3 games where you can play with a physical friend two feet away from you...

[The Funkbomb]

Probably not for a few reasons.

The single player modes are extremely short. I beat MW in a few hours and I am not a hardcore gamer.

This means the only good part was multiplayer but it had a bunch of flaws too.

The ranking system is terrible. If you don't get the game on release day and devote all of your free time to it for the next few months, you're going to fall behind. Everyone is the high levels with decked out weapons and you're stuck with the terrible guns.

"Features" like grenade launchers, last stand and martyrdom were terrible.

Now, I hear they're getting rid of private servers. You'll have to play on their servers and by their rules. This is to combat piracy since dedicated servers don't check for key codes. Lots of people were playing cracked copies.

This is terrible. PC gamers made the game great, ever since the first release. We had all custom maps and custom guns for sniper levels.

While MW had a lot of bells and whistles, they took the game in a completely different direction, shafted the players that made it popular and are going to turn a great big profit.

[x3roconf]

I played through the first one; I was very impressed with it, especially the multiplayer.

You mean Call of Duty Modern Warfare? Yeah. I bought it too. :p

[pwnst*r]

This means the only good part was multiplayer but it had a bunch of flaws too.

The ranking system is terrible. If you don't get the game on release day and devote all of your free time to it for the next few months, you're going to fall behind. Everyone is the high levels with decked out weapons and you're stuck with the terrible guns.

"Features" like grenade launchers, last stand and martyrdom were terrible.



i WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree with the rest of your post, but this...

ranking system is totally fine. it doesn't take months to achieve that stuff unless you want to prestige multiple times over. once you've leveled up even halfway, you've got all the weaps you'll need that are worth a damn.

i don't know why you think the 'nade launchers or martyrdom are crap (although i don't use martyrdom) there are lots of other perks to choose from.

[The Funkbomb]

I don't like noob tubes because you don't even have to be accurate. Let fly and instant kill. Even multiple kills in some places like the level with the radio station. Wave after wave of people coming out that door.

Martyrdom is terrible because you killed the dude and now they start dropping grenades upon death. Nonsense. Maybe if it required a keystroke as soon as you die with a very short window to press it, that'd be fine but instantly dropping a grenade upon death? No. That's terrible.

I didn't like multiplayer. There's be 30 level 55 (or whatever the highest is) and then a level 2 player would show up and they'd just gank him repeatedly.

[mamamia88]

yes very much looking forward to it

[Dark Aspect]

Do you like Call of Duty series? Will you buy MW2? :p

Yes,

I am going to pirate it first though simply because I don't know #1. if it works via wine and #2 if my single core computer can handle it. If the game works with both 1 & 2, I'll buy it.

[Icehuck]

I didn't like multiplayer. There's be 30 level 55 (or whatever the highest is) and then a level 2 player would show up and they'd just gank him repeatedly.

Except levels mean absolutely nothing in the game and the best weapons are available at level 1.

[Dharmachakra]

i've been playing the CoD series since it's start on the PC. i won't be buying MW2 because of lack of support for dedicated servers though.

Absolutely. I still play United Offensive sometimes... and so do many others looking at the servers.

Modern Warfare was good... because of dedicated servers. Same thing without? I'll let the kiddies play that.

And I think they'll find that their servers do nothing to combat piracy nor do they make the on line experience 'more enjoyable.'

[Dimitriid]

I am tempted not to because asking $59.99 for a PC game with no dedicated servers is too much. For that same price I can probably get left for dead 2 pre-ordered and a cheaper discount game.

[ZankerH]

No, I don't buy into the "pay us 60$ and you get to use this piece of restricted proprietary software until we decide you don't want to any longer" business model. And according to the wine appdb, it doesn't even run on wine, so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion in the first place? :mad:

It's just another proprietary MS/Sony-only piece of crap shooter that gets re-released every year with increased system requirements. It's crap like this that gets people addicted to proprietary platforms like windows and the gaming consoles.

[kavon89]

This means the only good part was multiplayer but it had a bunch of flaws too.

They ruined everything good about the multiplayer on PC too. There is only matchmaking (no dedicated servers!) and it's 18 players max (9v9).

If I had a console I'd buy it, but I'm certain they've lost the majority of PC gamers including me.

[pwnst*r]

No, I don't buy into the "pay us 60$ and you get to use this piece of restricted proprietary software until we decide you don't want to any longer" business model. And according to the wine appdb, it doesn't even run on wine, so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion in the first place? :mad:

It's just another proprietary MS/Sony-only piece of crap shooter that gets re-released every year with increased system requirements. It's crap like this that gets people addicted to proprietary platforms like windows and the gaming consoles.

go away.

[x3roconf]

go away.
+1

[duleep]

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 that play in Ubuntu, what hardware want it?

[markp1989]

No and no.

Because I really, really dislike shooters. The only exception is Megaman Legends.


why did you even bother opening this thread then?

Yes i like shooters , and have already preordered mw2 a few months back :D

i will be playing on the 360 not pc (and yes i no it was made by microsoft before people bitch and moan about giving microsoft money by using it and blay blah blah, i have herd it all before)

[ZankerH]

go away.

I don't see how my comment warrants that response. I understand we're asked to provide our opinion of the product in this thread? Because that's what I did, from the perspective of a Free Software enthusiast. Unfortunately, I don't play games like that, so I'm not qualified to say much on its merits as a game, but I think I did give a pretty accurate assessment on it's influence on Free Software.

[markp1989]

No, I don't buy into the "pay us 60$ and you get to use this piece of restricted proprietary software until we decide you don't want to any longer" business model. And according to the wine appdb, it doesn't even run on wine, so I'm not sure why we're having this discussion in the first place? :mad:

It's just another proprietary MS/Sony-only piece of crap shooter that gets re-released every year with increased system requirements. It's crap like this that gets people addicted to proprietary platforms like windows and the gaming consoles.

I don't see how my comment warrants that response. I understand we're asked to provide our opinion of the product in this thread? Because that's what I did, from the perspective of a Free Software enthusiast. Unfortunately, I don't play games like that, so I'm not qualified to say much on its merits as a game, but I think I did give a pretty accurate assessment on it's influence on Free Software.


the opinion was asked about the game, not about the companys business model.

if you are so anti proprietary games and game consoles why did you even open a thread called "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2" because its obvious what its going to be about.

[ZankerH]

the opinion was asked about the game, not about the companys business model.

if you are so anti proprietary games and game consoles why did you even open a thread called "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2" because its obvious what its going to be about.

To quote the original post:

Do you like Call of Duty series? Will you buy MW2?

I'm pretty sure discussion of the software licence it's released under and the business model it's marketed under are within the scope of the discussion. And in any case, I just wanted to bring my viewpoint to the attention of people who might otherwise not be aware of how buying into this kind of proprietary software and restrictive business models infringes on your freedom.

[connorh123]

Pre-ordered.
Have you seen the nvg's that you can buy? I mean, the only time you would use it is at night, but it looks cool.

[pwnst*r]

I don't see how my comment warrants that response. I understand we're asked to provide our opinion of the product in this thread? Because that's what I did, from the perspective of a Free Software enthusiast. Unfortunately, I don't play games like that, so I'm not qualified to say much on its merits as a game, but I think I did give a pretty accurate assessment on it's influence on Free Software.

because it doesn't fit in the "free software" category doesn't mean we can't discuss it here. so, yeah, my response was warranted.

[Mr. Picklesworth]

I'm a rabid free software enthusiast and a PC gaming enthusiast. I happily play games with Windows, knowing that it is a really good OS for games, at least until OpenGL gets a foothold (which could still happen). I am very skilled in the art of enjoying things :)

Of course, a big reason here is probably because I view games as a bit of an art form. They are not designed to be needed, so there is no real practical reason why they MUST be open source. I think the platform needs to be open source since people and programs all depend on it, but beyond that it is fair game. (Granted, I would like for this stuff to be open source, but change takes time and favours those who are patient).




However, I too haven't found much interest in MW2. I will probably play it at some point, since - like Star Trek - all the odd numbered COD games since 1 (the Treyarch ones) are horrifyingly lame and all the even numbered ones (the Infinity Ward ones) are really great.

I liked how they did COD 4 from the perspective of story-telling, at least in some parts. The cutscenes during loading screens were brilliant, since I never felt like I was waiting for it to load Ever. While they have always done it, they added another layer of depth to the way they bounce the player between different characters. Being in the shoes of the guy who gets kidnapped and assassinated is really a unique way to tell a story and shows off an a real strength of the medium. Similar deal with the sniper mission.

However, I think the "modern warfare" thing is getting pretty tiresome, and COD MW2 really looks like more of the same. (Even down to the multiplayer, which has a lot of wasted potential thanks to that STUPID class system which doesn't work because there is a program you can download that unlocks everything in half a second. Then again, I play Project Reality for my multiplayer shooting, so my preferences are obviously a bit warped).

Once I am finished with Dragon Age, I may give its demo a try...

[Mr. Picklesworth]

No demo unfortunately. Looks like pirating is the only way to try it out.

OT: How is Dragon Age? Can I run it nicely with my conf. ? And are weapons and equipment randomly spawned or are there pre-set items like in Baldurs Gate? A mix perhaps?

I think it's a mix. I haven't done much saving and loading and repeating, since that tends to kill the illusion in an RPG. (Especially this one. Lots of things that feel non-linear are actually VERY linear with a line of dialogue to make the difference).

Runs happily on my laptop with an 8600M GT so long as I turn off the full-screen visual effects. (Which make an obvious difference to the tone, but I have managed to not miss them too much).

It bothered me that I was greeted by a solicitor (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/11/6/) trying to sell me some downloadable content within the first few hours of gameplay. (Really, he appeared in my camp, told me about a really interesting sounding quest that seemed relevant to the storyline and only after I was interested it turned out that I would have had to pay them more money. Nasty).

The way party members interact is kind of cool.
The storyline is pretty mundane and typical so far. The Witcher beats it on that front, all their claims to the contrary. The back-stories for all the characters are interesting enough, so I expect them to save it.
It is very, very big.
I miss being able to break into peoples' houses, getting into fights with the innocent and being arrested by guards.

[x3roconf]

MW2 will be out tomorrow. :D

[xuCGC002]

I'd rather buy a game for a story, like RPGs, than to shoot everything I see.

There is such a thing as a shooter with a good story. Ever play Half-Life 2? :p

On topic, I'm not sure yet- I haven't even played COD4, just WaW.

[LowSky]

I ordered it at Walmart (normally the lat place I buy anything), It was the cheapest place and gave me a $20 giftcard toward next purchase (Assasins Creed 2)

Damn monopolistic corporations. Always trying to get me hooked.

CoD have some of the best story telling I've seen in FPS games. I think too many people still look at DOOM and Duke Nukem as stereotypical games of the genre.

[Small_Nuke]

I may purchase it when I can get it used from GameStop. I liked MW on my PS3, and it's one of the few games I played with my cousins over PSN.

I didn't like how short the single player campaign was. I was a complete noob and I beat the game in a couple hours. I recently revisited it and managed to beat it on Hard difficulty in under 24 hours.

I guess it really depends on if my cousins buy it because I'm not a fan of the multiplayer and I'm guessing the single player campaign will be as short as MW1; so it's not really worth the large price tag to me just to beat single player in a few hours.

[pwnst*r]

There is such a thing as a shooter with a good story. Ever play Half-Life 2? :p

On topic, I'm not sure yet- I haven't even played COD4, just WaW.

WaW sucks compared to C0D4. just sayin.

[Icehuck]

WaW sucks compared to C0D4. just sayin.

But in WaW they changed it to Japan this time around! Just over look the fact that you end up back in Germany once again.

[-jay-]

i played since cod 1 but i wont be playing the new one for a while :(

[00ber n00b]

I may purchase it when I can get it used from GameStop. I liked MW on my PS3, and it's one of the few games I played with my cousins over PSN.

I didn't like how short the single player campaign was. I was a complete noob and I beat the game in a couple hours. I recently revisited it and managed to beat it on Hard difficulty in under 24 hours.

I guess it really depends on if my cousins buy it because I'm not a fan of the multiplayer and I'm guessing the single player campaign will be as short as MW1; so it's not really worth the large price tag to me just to beat single player in a few hours.

The campaign wasn't short. Everyone that says it is short needs to stop playing on easy, moderate. Try veteran for a change. I only play on veteran and it keeps me busy for hours and hours.

[vagrantrooper]

Left 4 Dead 2> MW2 & Uncharted 2

Fact :popcorn:

[Small_Nuke]

The campaign wasn't short. Everyone that says it is short needs to stop playing on easy, moderate. Try veteran for a change. I only play on veteran and it keeps me busy for hours and hours.

I was a complete noob to MW and I could have saved a ton of money if i just rented it, if I only wanted to play single player. Even on Veteran mode or w/e the campaign was one of the shortest single player games I have beaten ever. Veteran mode was just more frustrating because the npc's had better aim and you had less life. That's not more story, it's just more time playing the same stage over because you stuck your head out to far or some other BS.

[pwnst*r]

Left 4 Dead 2> MW2 & Uncharted 2

Fact :popcorn:

you're wrong, but ok.

[markp1989]

just got an email , mine just dispatched :D should be here in the morning :D

i pre ordered left 4 dead 2 aswell :D

[PurposeOfReason]

i've been playing the CoD series since it's start on the PC. i won't be buying MW2 because of lack of support for dedicated servers though.
This. I *might* torrent it for the SP and MP if they crack it, but there is now way I'll give money to IW. Not after they called having mouse support a feature. Dice will get my money when Battlefield Bad Company 2 comes out. They already promised me my servers and huge player counts.
Left 4 Dead 2> MW2 & Uncharted 2

Fact :popcorn:
Ha, I've been playing L4D2 demo and I hate it. Way too many people thinking it's funny to team kill and run out solo. It's a team game and it's already been ruined for the same reason as TF2.

[00ber n00b]

I was a complete noob to MW and I could have saved a ton of money if i just rented it, if I only wanted to play single player. Even on Veteran mode or w/e the campaign was one of the shortest single player games I have beaten ever. Veteran mode was just more frustrating because the npc's had better aim and you had less life. That's not more story, it's just more time playing the same stage over because you stuck your head out to far or some other BS.

Isn't that the case with virtually any FPS out there? If I play ANY FPS on easy, I'll beat it in a matter of hours. You don't even have to shoot anything, you can just run through the levels.

[samh785]

i've been playing the cod series since it's start on the pc. I won't be buying mw2 because of lack of support for dedicated servers though.
+1

[virusiidx]

I'll be picking this up tomorrow after work. :)

I really prefer playing the PC version. However, most of my gaming friends are on PS3, so I'll be picking it up for PS3 instead. Really wish it had keyboard/mouse support. :(

[ucal]

Isn't that the case with virtually any FPS out there? If I play ANY FPS on easy, I'll beat it in a matter of hours. You don't even have to shoot anything, you can just run through the levels.

To be fair, veteran makes it so you have to run through all the levels. There's no way short of blind luck that you can kill everything in sight, but your teammates won't move up unless you do. So what ends up happening is that the most expedient way to get through all the levels is to shoot the enemies that will kill you when you move up, move up, and watch as your invinciteam cleans up the rest.

Best way to get mile high club for sure.

And no, I won't. No linux support, and I don't have my 360 here, so no real point. Not booting into windows for an FPS. Now Mass Effect 2 on the other hand . . .

[markp1989]

dam it, i just seen that Sainsburys are going to be selling it for £26 in store!! i already pre ordered and paid £45

[Sages]

i will be. :) it will be a great load of fun :D and i didnt feel the ranking system from the first one was bad. hell if some one plays more they should have better gear? no?

How bad would it be to give every one the same things at the start...

[efexD]

No I won't buy it. I bought COD4 and wasn't impressed. It's way over-hyped by the console kiddies in my opinion.

[569874123]

What is so special about MW2 or ME2?

[vagrantrooper]

ok.


You got this bit right :D

[tuddy666]

I'd rather buy a game for a story, like RPGs, than to shoot everything I see.

QFT. I'm not buying Modern Warfare 2, I've still got Disgaea 3 and Tales of Vesperia to beat.

[569874123]

I'd rather buy a game for a story, like RPGs, than to shoot everything I see.

I'd rather read a book for story and a play a game for gameplay, but that is me :P

[markp1989]

got mine today, xbox live game tag markpa1989 if any 1 wants a game.

[1337]

No, because it's not working on Linux!

[x3roconf]

No, because it's not working on Linux!

How you can know that it's not working on linux? Have you tested with wine?

[frodon]

I will buy it for sure, i really long to play it :)

[bgiannes]

Well where is the native linux installer? quake has native installers!

So the answer is NO becuase they don't support linux!

[LoloftheRings]

No. There's no dedicated servers.

[Bölvaður]

I'd rather read a book for story and a play a game for gameplay, but that is me :P

no you aren't alone to feel that storyline in games is like storyline in porn. Some might like it, but it isn't as good as a proper story.. like from a book, manga or a film for an example.


When I heard there was no dedicated server it was obvious it wasn't going to be a big hit for gamers. Which is strange as I thought Infinity Ward knew what gamers want.... wasnt expecting them to turn all EA on us.


The ranks arent too annoying, when I reinstalled cod4 I was leveling up 2-3 ranks per round depending on the size of the servers.
And you only need to get to level 8 for the Ak47 and 27ish to get Ak74u so you are pretty quick to get the only guns that is worth having.

But the only thing you will need to level up for is the bandoiler perk and deagle.
Not that ranks matter at all as you'd only play on PAM or PROmod servers anyway.

[rajeev1204]

If any of you are travelling to india,pick up the PC version here.Its just 25 dollars, 1299 rupees india price.It wont be available on world release dates,but a week or so after.

Iam going to buy it because i loved the original.

I never played multiplayer as i dont have time,just the single player.THis time ill try it occasionally ,lets see how the iwnet servers will be.


Enough for me to buy this game.,Its gorgeous.Hope it runs on my system decently.



rajeev

[xenogia]

I wonder if this game works under Wine at all..

[michelstyris]

I bought this game and its excellent port. Hugely improve controls in this game.

It is a best version then any other version with high graphics. It is really fantastic game.

I think every body should play this game. I really enjoyed it.

[ndefontenay]

From level 1, if you know how to place a headshot, any guns will do! I started the game way later and my guy did pretty well quite quickly. The key is not your level, it's kwowing the ground where you stand and aiming right.

[DedMoroz]

If any of you are travelling to india,pick up the PC version here.Its just 25 dollars, 1299 rupees india price.It wont be available on world release dates,but a week or so after.

Iam going to buy it because i loved the original.

I never played multiplayer as i dont have time,just the single player.THis time ill try it occasionally ,lets see how the iwnet servers will be.


Enough for me to buy this game.,Its gorgeous.Hope it runs on my system decently.



rajeev

Or if you are heading to Moscow, Russia, the game would be available for $2 USD (yes two dollars) in one of Moscows many electronic flea markets.

[johnboy1313]

i heard 2 was pretty much a bust

[frodon]

Yep after reading the review i think i won't by it ultimately.

The no dedicated server choice having as concequence the 18 players limitation and high ping is killing the interest for me.

I will just go back to my original plan and buy left4dead 2 instead.

[rajeev1204]

Or if you are heading to Moscow, Russia, the game would be available for $2 USD (yes two dollars) in one of Moscows many electronic flea markets.

Iam talking about a legit copy.If you are talking about a legitimate copy for 2 dollars, thats strange indeed.No way activision can sell at those prices and make any money.

[Grenage]

I am surprised any modern game doesn't allow private servers, especially an FPS. Does CoD not have clans?

I pre-ordered L4D2 (double pack with the first for £44). Looking forward to it!

[frodon]

I am surprised any modern game doesn't allow private servers, especially an FPS. Does CoD not have clans?

I pre-ordered L4D2 (double pack with the first for £44). Looking forward to it!You like killing zombies too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We must eradicate them muhahaha :twisted:

[rajeev1204]

You like killing zombies too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We must eradicate them muhahaha :twisted:

Call of duty is a completely different game from l4d ,which i never play btw.

As for Call of Duty, i buy it for the single player which i think we all agree is awesome.

Never have time to play the MP, i play quake 4 only,but iam looking forward to cod4 mw2 multiplayer.

Its the same crap as quake live anyway with no ded servers.Only difference is ,quake live is free and this is not.

[Grenage]

You like killing zombies too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We must eradicate them muhahaha :twisted:

Doesn't everyone? lol. It's just a very fast-paced game designed completely for co-op play, for me that's all I could want.

[u235sentinel]

Do you like Call of Duty series? Will you buy MW2? :p

Depends.. does it run on Linux or is gold rated for Wine :D

[hype]

Depends.. does it run on Linux or is gold rated for Wine :D
COD 4: Modern warfare works perfectly for me on steam using wine.
But i dont feel like spending 60€ to check if Modern warfare 2 works too. =)

[BrokenKingpin]

I liked the first CoD, I didn't play CoD 2 or 3, and I didn't like CoD 4. The single player campaign was crap. I also couldn't stand the canned death animations, there is no excuse for that in a modern shooter. I will consider the new one if they fixed these issues.

[linuxuser9999]

I will be buying it as soon as I get enough cash. I gotta save for my bills first.

[PurposeOfReason]

PC version already has hackers. Good job IW, if you gave us ded servers we wouldn't have this problem.

[hype]

ok so, the game doesnt start using latest wine 1.1.32.

When i start the game, i get this error message
"Installation incomplete"
Of course, the download went fine to 100%.

But if i choose to start steam off-line, the installation process goes a bit further, to then block a few second later installing Direct X.

I tried to use advices provided by steam going here https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9851-PFHN-9932&l=french

I used the mentionned settings into my routeur to get correct ports opened, without results...

[Artificial Intelligence]

ok so, the game doesnt start using latest wine 1.1.32.

When i start the game, i get this error message
"Installation incomplete"
Of course, the download went fine to 100%.

But if i choose to start steam off-line, the installation process goes a bit further, to then block a few second later installing Direct X.

I tried to use advices provided by steam going here https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9851-PFHN-9932&l=french

I used the mentionned settings into my routeur to get correct ports opened, without results...

Maybe start a thread in our wine forum for support. This is not the thread or correct forum for wine/window games support.

Thanks.


regards
A.I. Dude
Ubuntu Forum Staff

[hype]

Maybe start a thread in our wine forum for support. This is not the thread or correct forum for wine/window games support.

Thanks.


regards
A.I. Dude
Ubuntu Forum Staff

Done: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8307013#post8307013

[hype]

By the way, the game runs fine now using steam, checkout my previous post for url.

[danny_galaga]

I prefer Call of Duty- World at War. For me there's nothing like gritty WWII action. None of this 'infrared this' and 'satellite that'. Just you, your trusty M1 and a big pair of balls :D

[tomdagreek]

true true and true..
but the lack of dedi servers was not a result of cracked servers.
all cod servers check with the master and make sure that ur keycode is legit. cracked servers were checking in with a bogus master server and letting pirated keycodes play on that cracked server.
i,personally , think that the lack of no mods and dedi's are more a result of pride and money-not pirating.
u can make a dedi server at home... when u and ur 4 friends play on that server(with the same keycode) the master realizes it and kicks u all off
wait till valves masters go down u wont be playing at all...
last week valve was down for a bit but i was still playing cuz i logged on to my dedi thru console.
thats the difference