HD Homerun + Comcast digital (not Hi Def) with cable box

[meanmrmustard]

I've found what seems to be conflicting information regarding recording digital programs using a cable box.
We've recently upgraded to Comcast's digital service that requires a cable box.
One reviewer of the Homerun tuner said the it will not record the digital channels when a cable box is used, another said the opposite

Has anyone used the Homerun to record other than major network digital broadcasts?

If not, what digital card (preferably with two tuners) will meet my needs?

[jaakan]

You will only be able to record clearQAM channels, ie any channels Comcast doesn't have encrypted.

put your zip code in the following link
http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels_us

[mars76]

Hi,

I am also setting up HDhomeRun + Mythbuntu..

If i connect the RF cable from Cable STB to the tuner i should be able to view all the Channels that i have subscribed to right ??

Also does the HdHomeRUn supports one ATSC and one QAM source ??

thanks..

[jaakan]

Hi,

I am also setting up HDhomeRun + Mythbuntu..

If i connect the RF cable from Cable STB to the tuner i should be able to view all the Channels that i have subscribed to right ??

Also does the HdHomeRUn supports one ATSC and one QAM source ??

thanks..
question 1 : no
question 2 : ATSC and clearQAM are supported on both inputs if you Dual tuner one

[laceration]

I'm wondering why people who are into open source software don't give a second thought to cable TV. Cable TV is a totally locked down and closed system. imho Cable TV is more proprietary and sinister than anything Microsoft does.
I am not an open source fanatic and if you have to have Cable or Windows, ok, but just like Linux is a satisfactory alternative to Windows that is free, OTA(over the air) TV, supplemented by the internet is the same in regards to cable.
I'm just wondering about the irony.

[tgm4883]

No, your cablebox does not output a digital signal, only an analog signal. You will need something to record the analog signal, and also a way to change the channel.

You could use firewire to record, which would be digital, but most likely, you will only get local channels.


I'm wondering why people who are into open source software don't give a second thought to cable TV. Cable TV is a totally locked down and closed system. imho Cable TV is more proprietary and sinister than anything Microsoft does.
I am not an open source fanatic and if you have to have Cable or Windows, ok, but just like Linux is a satisfactory alternative to Windows that is free, OTA(over the air) TV, supplemented by the internet is the same in regards to cable.
I'm just wondering about the irony.

Irony? Not everyone uses Linux because it is open source. I wonder why you prefer to stereotype people based on the OS they use.

[laceration]

What? I did not stereotype people! I do not see how you came up with that. You are stereotyping my thought if anything.
Major reasons why people use Linux are that it is free in that it is open source and free of cost. Obviously, people have myriad reasons why exactly they use Linux, but at the least they are exposed to these ideas. What I am saying is that these ideas apply to Cable TV also --even more so -- People pay each month what 1 copy of MS Windows costs. Yet no one ever thinks about Cable TV in this context. This is what I am getting at -- Think about it!

[AKADAP]

I'm wondering why people who are into open source software don't give a second thought to cable TV. Cable TV is a totally locked down and closed system. imho Cable TV is more proprietary and sinister than anything Microsoft does.
I am not an open source fanatic and if you have to have Cable or Windows, ok, but just like Linux is a satisfactory alternative to Windows that is free, OTA(over the air) TV, supplemented by the internet is the same in regards to cable.
I'm just wondering about the irony.

Some of us have cable because the only way to get Internet access is through cable.

I have Comcast limited basic for precisely that reason.

On the subject of this thread, I also have an HDHomeRun.
Hooking the cable directly to the HDHomeRun, The major OTA HD channels are available clear QAM as well as most of the SD extended basic channels (apparently there isn't enough space in the limited basic trap to put all of the clear QAM extended basic channels). ALL of the other HD channels are encrypted.

[laceration]

Some of us have cable because the only way to get Internet access is through cable.

I have Comcast limited basic for precisely that reason.

Me too. I have Cable internet access and basic unencrypted cable, but I don't have a cable box(patch it right into my computer). I am talking about the premium encrypted closed and locked down Cable TV with their hardware only.

[tgm4883]

What? I did not stereotype people! I do not see how you came up with that. You are stereotyping my thought if anything.
Major reasons why people use Linux are that it is free in that it is open source and free of cost. Obviously, people have myriad reasons why exactly they use Linux, but at the least they are exposed to these ideas. What I am saying is that these ideas apply to Cable TV also --even more so -- People pay each month what 1 copy of MS Windows costs. Yet no one ever thinks about Cable TV in this context. This is what I am getting at -- Think about it!

You are the one who said that it was ironic that Linux users would use a proprietary system such as cable TV. How is that not stereotyping people? I just pointed out that some people use Linux because it's free (as in beer), some use it because it's free (as in speech), some use it because it it a better OS (not because it is free at all), and others use it for other reasons.

Some people don't care about the proprietary/floss software argument, and simply use it because it is a better OS (read less resources, more secure). If you think it's ironic that some Linux users subscribe to proprietary services only because they are Linux users, that is stereotyping people.

[laceration]

If you think it's ironic that some Linux users subscribe to proprietary services only because they are Linux users
I did not make any blanket statement about all linux users. Are you into victimhood or paranoid? Why would you interpret it like that, especially after I explained I did not mean it like that? I am a Linux user, which stands to reason being here, so I am making statement about myself, even though I am arguing against it? Your logic is preposterous on its face.

Can we quit this? It is stupid. Please stop mis-characterizing my words.

[luigidk]

I have only been on this forum for a week or so - when I determined to switch to MythBuntu and 'upgrade' from a mythtv distro that was no longer working. These forums have been GREAT - I would not have gotten nearly so far without them!

I have noticed topics can take a tangent... that is too bad. I had said something that seemed to be taken out of context recently - wasn't sure - so I just ignored it. Nothing more to add - it is just too bad.

Back to HDHOMERUN... I just implemented my HDHOMERUN to replace my avermedia card - that either was failing for hardware or software reasons... it was actually easier to implement HDHOMERUN than anything else.

The HDHOMERUN is connected to my comcast cable - and it is NOT coming from my set top box (dct-6200). I pull those channels using my pvr-150. This seems to be working very well. I am however only bringing in the local networks such as cbs/abc/nbc... and a few select others.

I was able to scan and pull in a LOT more than that - but just did not spend the time to set them up... I may do that later.

I am having some HDHOMERUN issues though - for some reason - sometimes those channels are not recognized and I have to either (- reboot, or rerun setup - haven't figured which yet...) I think it is related to not finding the startup channel - and if it can't receive it - the whole 'card' is shut off by mythtv...

I am finding the HDHOMERUN has higher quality than my avermedia card did though - so that is a score. It is pretty cool that I can also watch tv from my pc now through my HDHOMERUN... though when I do that - it messes up my mythtv.

[meanmrmustard]

Thanks for the (on topic) replies.

If you have a different question or you response will not add to the discussion of the topic you should be starting another thread - in the proper place.

Someone who is searching for answer does not appreciate having to wade through any number of irrelevant posts to get the info, I know - been there many times.

THANKS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.