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SiHa
October 24th, 2009, 09:10 AM
Well, I can't get anything later than 9.10 beta to install reliably. All others (I tried two daily images about a week ago and the RC today) hang at random points. Safe graphics doesn't help.

Will 9.10 alternate be released on 29th along with the LiveCD?

If I still can't get anything to install, I suppose I could just install the beta and upgrade?

tgm4883
October 24th, 2009, 12:21 PM
Well, I can't get anything later than 9.10 beta to install reliably. All others (I tried two daily images about a week ago and the RC today) hang at random points. Safe graphics doesn't help.

Will 9.10 alternate be released on 29th along with the LiveCD?

If I still can't get anything to install, I suppose I could just install the beta and upgrade?

Nope, there will be no alternate CD for the foreseeable future

ozybushwalker
October 25th, 2009, 09:24 PM
Well, I can't get anything later than 9.10 beta to install reliably. All others (I tried two daily images about a week ago and the RC today) hang at random points.

Its this sort of thing that has made me almost terminally ticked off with Ubuntu and Mythbuntu. I have read lots of glowing reports of Ubuntu in the press but my collection of computers seems to have an unusual amount of trouble with Ubuntu: stuff like install won't complete, startup hangs, server hangs after running a few hours or days. Some examples: Ubuntu Server 8.04 ran fine on all three of my PII systems. I'd installed Ubuntu Server on a VIA C3 system but it would often hang within a few minutes of startup. I installed Ubuntu Server 9.04 (alternate boot) on the same harddrive and that would generally stay up a few hours before hanging. I moved the hard drive to a Pentium II based system to see if I could get better uptime but startup of Ubuntu 9.04 wouldn't complete because of alleged hard drive timeouts. Ubuntu 8.04 worked fine. I moved the hard drive to two other Pentium II based systems and Ubuntu 8.04 booted fine on both of them but Ubuntu 9.04 also encountered hard drive timeouts on one of them and the other worked fine. It hard to imagine anything more "mainstream" than Intel CPU and Intel chipset but Ubuntu 9.04 gets hard drive timouts and won't boot on two of my three systems with Intel Pentium II CPUs and Intel BX chipsets.

I've also had considerable trouble with Mythbuntu on a couple of motherboards with VIA CPU and VIA chipsets. Generally a newer release would quietly "not work" in a variety of ways on a system where an older release worked.

I've lodged problem reports for most of these problems. I'd encourage you to do do the same. Unfortunately its so close to the announced release date of 9.10 that if a fix for your particular problem is not already known there almost certainly won't be a fix in the released CD image. And then how you would go about getting a fix onto your system could be an "interesting learning experience".

SiHa
October 27th, 2009, 10:31 AM
Nope, there will be no alternate CD for the foreseeable future

Fantastic. I've installed Hardy about a zillion times on four different systems, and everytime it installs without a hitch. But the only version of Karmic I can get to install is the beta. Most of the time, it doesn't even get far enough for me to get any useful debugging info.

Its this sort of thing that has made me almost terminally ticked off with Ubuntu and Mythbuntu. I have read lots of glowing reports of Ubuntu in the press but my collection of computers seems to have an unusual amount of trouble with Ubuntu: stuff like install won't complete, startup hangs, server hangs after running a few hours or days. Some examples: Ubuntu Server 8.04 ran fine on all three of my PII systems. I'd installed Ubuntu Server on a VIA C3 system but it would often hang within a few minutes of startup. I installed Ubuntu Server 9.04 (alternate boot) on the same harddrive and that would generally stay up a few hours before hanging. I moved the hard drive to a Pentium II based system to see if I could get better uptime but startup of Ubuntu 9.04 wouldn't complete because of alleged hard drive timeouts. Ubuntu 8.04 worked fine. I moved the hard drive to two other Pentium II based systems and Ubuntu 8.04 booted fine on both of them but Ubuntu 9.04 also encountered hard drive timeouts on one of them and the other worked fine. It hard to imagine anything more "mainstream" than Intel CPU and Intel chipset but Ubuntu 9.04 gets hard drive timouts and won't boot on two of my three systems with Intel Pentium II CPUs and Intel BX chipsets.

I've also had considerable trouble with Mythbuntu on a couple of motherboards with VIA CPU and VIA chipsets. Generally a newer release would quietly "not work" in a variety of ways on a system where an older release worked.

I've lodged problem reports for most of these problems. I'd encourage you to do do the same. Unfortunately its so close to the announced release date of 9.10 that if a fix for your particular problem is not already known there almost certainly won't be a fix in the released CD image. And then how you would go about getting a fix onto your syst

It's a shame. I've got two pefectly stable 8.04 systems. I just know that a kernel update will break something (as suggested indicated by the install issues), but I'm told that to get 0.22 without a lot of mucking about, I'll have to upgrade to 9.10


](*,)

tgm4883
October 27th, 2009, 12:33 PM
Fantastic. I've installed Hardy about a zillion times on four different systems, and everytime it installs without a hitch. But the only version of Karmic I can get to install is the beta. Most of the time, it doesn't even get far enough for me to get any useful debugging info.



It's a shame. I've got two pefectly stable 8.04 systems. I just know that a kernel update will break something (as suggested indicated by the install issues), but I'm told that to get 0.22 without a lot of mucking about, I'll have to upgrade to 9.10


](*,)

Whoever told you that is seriously mistaken. To get 0.22 on previous versions of Mythbuntu (and all *buntu), activate the auto-builds repo and select 0.22. This only works on systems post Hardy, but that will give you a few to choose from.

slakkie
October 27th, 2009, 12:37 PM
Nope, there will be no alternate CD for the foreseeable future

Right...


http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/

Search for Alternate

http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-rc-alternate-i386.iso

tgm4883
October 27th, 2009, 02:09 PM
Right...


http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/

Search for Alternate

http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-rc-alternate-i386.iso

Sorry, I assumed since this was in the Mythbuntu forums and that the user obviously found all the regular development CD's (so they know where to look) that they that this was a request for Mythbuntu alternate ISO's.

SiHa
October 27th, 2009, 03:38 PM
Sorry, I assumed since this was in the Mythbuntu forums and that the user obviously found all the regular development CD's (so they know where to look) that they that this was a request for Mythbuntu alternate ISO's.

Well, actually you're right. I was asking for a Mythbuntu alternate ISO. But thanks slakkie, In my haste and frustration, I'd completely overlooked the way I first delved into Myth (and how my master BE/FE was installed), ie. Ubuntu + MythTV. I could try Ubuntu alternate install then apt-get Mythtv.

Perhaps that's the way to go.

Cheers