View Full Version : In desperate need of statistics help... data reduction
towsonu2003
February 10th, 2006, 12:18 AM
I am using SPSS and trying to write my thesis...
I did a factor analysis on some of my variables and I need to recode the factors into a new variable. The variables in the factors are 5-point likert scales. My teacher wanted me to just add each variable in a factor.
So, if factor1 consists of var1, var2, var3, and var4; according to the teacher, it would look like:
factor1=var1+var2+var3+var4
So the max for factor1 will be 20 (4 variables x 5th point in each Likert scaled var) and the minimum will be 4 (4 variables x 1st point in each Likert scaled var)
The question is: Is this the way to go? Shouldn't I add coefficients for each variable somehow? If so, how do you determine what those coefficients will be??
So, what I am thinking of is:
factor1=(coef1 x var1)+(coef2 x var2)+(coef3 x var3)+(coef4 x var4)
Thanks in advance for all help :)
towsonu2003
February 10th, 2006, 01:16 AM
sorry :( to bump this so early, but I'm really desperate (by tomorrow morning)... :cry:
towsonu2003
February 12th, 2006, 09:03 PM
factor analysis>save>use regression (new variable will appear at the end of the variable list), use primary component analysis option in factor analysis (factors now called components)
xequence
February 12th, 2006, 09:05 PM
It's all greek to me.
towsonu2003
February 12th, 2006, 09:09 PM
It's all greek to me.
same here...
I found a very nice book on this (thanks to "SPSS Wiki" clues): "advanced and multivariate statistical methods", which is kinda greek->english dictionary for this weird stuff.
xequence
February 12th, 2006, 09:11 PM
same here...
I found a very nice book on this (thanks to "SPSS Wiki" clues): "advanced and multivariate statistical methods", which is kinda greek->english dictionary for this weird stuff.
Shouldent your teacher have thought you how to do this before making you do it? If not, theyre odd.
towsonu2003
February 12th, 2006, 09:18 PM
the teacher is my advisor... I jumped into this as my thesis, thinking that my undergrad statistics education would be enough (no good courses on statistics - quantitative in grad courseload though!), but it seems it wasn't.
the solution was simple though: read more... I'm used to reading by now thanks to linux ;)
briancurtin
February 12th, 2006, 09:21 PM
the solution was simple though: read more... I'm used to reading by now thanks to linux ;)
converting to all linux has helped me in this regard too. ive learned how to dig through documentation and how to search for what i need much, much better. i didnt really think about that until recently.
towsonu2003
February 12th, 2006, 09:35 PM
converting to all linux has helped me in this regard too. ive learned how to dig through documentation and how to search for what i need much, much better. i didnt really think about that until recently.
we need a new policy: force students to learn linux regardless of graduate area of study ;) that'll teach them (us) how to work with literature reviews and other documentation...
WolfJay_83
February 12th, 2006, 09:36 PM
It's quite easy to use the compute function to create a new variable. Then you can simply click each variable and sum them up. This will create a new variable with the above properties.
I cant remember where on the menu it is, as I'm on my ubuntu laptop right now. I'm curious though, are you running spss on linux somehow?
towsonu2003
February 12th, 2006, 09:47 PM
It's quite easy to use the compute function to create a new variable. Then you can simply click each variable and sum them up. This will create a new variable with the above properties.
It wasn't giving me the variable I wanted as I didn't know what coefficients to use... I could just add each variable to each other, but that didn't look right... the "save" option with regression under factor analysis did the trick. what it basicall does is create a new variable with mean=0 and stD=1, using some coefficients unknown to me, from the components it extracts. I still don't know how it gets the coefficients though...
I didn't get any feedback from my advisor, so I'm not sure whether this will be okay for her... we'll see... I may have to just add them up as she wanted initially, if she insists... it seems advisors are gods in the thesis world...
I cant remember where on the menu it is, as I'm on my ubuntu laptop right now. Transform>Compute I'm curious though, are you running spss on linux somehow?
nope... in Windows (department computer and own computer). but I end up reinstalling windows from time to time bc. for some reason, the version I use at home in spss craps itself out if I want it to do too much computing: make it come up with a couple of graphics and plots, u end up having to reinstall it. I wish my undergrad people thought me how to use R instead of SPSS!! why the hell do you teach ppl a proprietary thing for which they have to pay big bucks to use???? academics is weird! I'll learn R once this is over...
diafanos
June 18th, 2007, 07:54 AM
It's all greek to me.
even though I am Greek...I can't help you either...:lol:
euler_fan
June 18th, 2007, 09:03 PM
. . . I wish my undergrad people thought me how to use R instead of SPSS!! why the hell do you teach ppl a proprietary thing for which they have to pay big bucks to use???? academics is weird! I'll learn R once this is over...
This might help in your quest to learn R coming from an SPSS background.
R for SAS and SPSS Users (http://oit.utk.edu/scc/RforSAS&SPSSusers.pdf)
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