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Robin Nixon
September 19th, 2009, 05:30 PM
Attendees at Atlanta Linux Fest's breakout session Ubuntucon were among the first to hear straight from Mark Shuttleworth that the popular Linux distribution Ubuntu's next release -- version 9.10 -- will be named Lucid Lynx.

http://ostatic.com/blog/ubuntu-version-9-10-code-named-lucid-lynx

The report refers to 9.10 but I think they mean 10.04

Russell John
September 19th, 2009, 05:39 PM
It's all over on Twitter now, but still want to know if this is really true or not.

ukblacknight
September 19th, 2009, 05:42 PM
I like the name "Lynx", sounds cool! Article doesn't mention what's in store for that release though - wonder when we'll find that out?

ukblacknight
September 19th, 2009, 05:46 PM
Actually... if you read the article, where it links "straight from Mark Shuttleworth", it simply shows a twitter search. Could this be fake?

BslBryan
September 19th, 2009, 05:46 PM
I'm currently staff at the ALF, and yes, it's true. :)

Also, a Canonical representative just confirmed it by me looking up and saying, "Lucid Lynx?" to which he replied, "Lucid Lynx."

MacUntu
September 19th, 2009, 05:52 PM
I'll call it "10.04" then. :P

Russell John
September 19th, 2009, 05:55 PM
I'm currently staff at the ALF, and yes, it's true. :)

Also, a Canonical representative just confirmed it by me looking up and saying, "Lucid Lynx?" to which he replied, "Lucid Lynx."
Thanks for the confirmation! :)

Странник
September 19th, 2009, 05:58 PM
I really like the name

ukblacknight
September 19th, 2009, 06:05 PM
Surely this thread should be called "Ubuntu 10.04: Lucid Lynx" :P

ChrT
September 19th, 2009, 06:07 PM
I thought those were just in-house development names?

Swarms
September 19th, 2009, 06:15 PM
I have made a digg submission, digg it guys. :)
http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_version_10_04_going_to_be_codenamed_Lucid_L ynx

fut21
September 19th, 2009, 06:38 PM
Oh yes its true look here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames

Marlonsm
September 19th, 2009, 06:47 PM
Not a bad name indeed.
Lynx, IMO was the best animal to choose, I just wasn't sure about the adjective, but Lucid is good.

p_quarles
September 19th, 2009, 06:57 PM
"Lynx" was apparently trademarked by Apple back in 2003 when they grabbed all the feline names. I'm not a lawyer, but isn't this a potential problem?

Marlonsm
September 19th, 2009, 06:58 PM
"Lynx" was apparently trademarked by Apple back in 2003 when they grabbed all the feline names. I'm not a lawyer, but isn't this a potential problem?

Might be...
But I don't remember they actually using it in any product.

Mehall
September 19th, 2009, 06:58 PM
"Lynx" was apparently trademarked by Apple back in 2003 when they grabbed all the feline names. I'm not a lawyer, but isn't this a potential problem?

What about the web browser lynx then?

It's prior art, so surely the tm is invalid, as lynx browser has been around almost as long as the Internet as we know it.

ukblacknight
September 19th, 2009, 06:59 PM
"Lynx" was apparently trademarked by Apple back in 2003 when they grabbed all the feline names. I'm not a lawyer, but isn't this a potential problem?

Lynx is also the name of a popular deodorant in the UK, can't imagine it being a problem.

Plus, it's a code name, officially, it's named "10.04".

p_quarles
September 19th, 2009, 07:00 PM
What about the web browser lynx then?

It's prior art, so surely the tm is invalid, as lynx browser has been around almost as long as the Internet as we know it.
That is not how trademarks work. You're thinking of patents. Trademarks can be specific to certain kinds of products, so a web browser and an OS both called Lynx wouldn't necessarily conflict, but two OSes named that would.

tubezninja
September 19th, 2009, 07:04 PM
"Lynx" was apparently trademarked by Apple back in 2003 when they grabbed all the feline names. I'm not a lawyer, but isn't this a potential problem?

Apple has since abandoned the trademark:

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:9vph8l.2.2

p_quarles
September 19th, 2009, 07:05 PM
Apple has since abandoned the trademark:

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:9vph8l.2.2
Oh, good find. Thanks.

Robin Nixon
September 19th, 2009, 07:23 PM
Not a bad name indeed.
Lynx, IMO was the best animal to choose, I just wasn't sure about the adjective, but Lucid is good.

It also sounds like Lucid Linux ;)

Paqman
September 19th, 2009, 08:11 PM
Great name! :P

wildnfree
September 19th, 2009, 08:49 PM
Actually... if you read the article, where it links "straight from Mark Shuttleworth", it simply shows a twitter search. Could this be fake?

Channel #ubuntu-news just rejected this "announcement" as unconfirmed.

So maybe there is still hope for my preferred name
for 10.04 Loopy Llama ;-)

forumache
September 19th, 2009, 08:59 PM
Channel #ubuntu-news just rejected this "announcement" as unconfirmed.

So maybe there is still hope for my preferred name
for 10.04 Loopy Llama ;-)

Then who edited this page? It's not writeable by everyone.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames


Lucid Lynx is the name of the game. Although... the edit is not complete, the bold fonts for L L combination are not taken (look at the page, I don't know how to explain).

Leaping Llama sounds good too.

cloudscream
September 19th, 2009, 10:48 PM
After the cute koala, here comes the adorable lynx. xD I'm glad they're taking a break from Gibbons, Hogs, Herons and Jackalopes.

reub2000
September 19th, 2009, 11:32 PM
Lucid is a great name. Now this is going to be an LTS release, right?

u'b'u'n't'u
September 20th, 2009, 01:19 AM
Lucid is a great name. Now this is going to be an LTS release, right?

Yes it will be(most likely) a LTS. Heres some info straight from mark:


When we did Ubuntu 6.06 LTS we said we’d do another LTS in “2 to 3 years”. When we did 8.04 LTS we said that the benefits of predictability for LTS’s are such that it would be good to say in advance when the next LTS would be. I said I would like that to be 10.04 LTS, a major cycle of 2 years, unless the opportunity came up to coordinate major releases with one or two other major distributions – Debian, Suse or Red Hat.

heres my source:

http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/288

happy computing!

Marlonsm
September 20th, 2009, 01:54 AM
Yes it will be(most likely) a LTS. Heres some info straight from mark:



heres my source:

http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/288

happy computing!

Right. Lucid Lynx is likely be an LTS.

But there are some rumors that the next LTS will be 10.10, not 10.04.
From the link you posted:


Debian is aiming for an 18 month cycle, which would put their next release around October 2010, which would be the same time as the Ubuntu 10.10 release. Potentially, then, we could defer the Ubuntu LTS till 10.10, coordinating and collaborating with the Debian project for a release with very similar choices of core infrastructure. That would make sharing patches a lot easier, a benefit both ways. Since there will be a lot of folks from Ubuntu at Debconf, and hopefully a number of Debian developers at UDS in Barcelona in May, we will have good opportunities to examine this opportunity in detail. If there is goodwill, excitement and broad commitment to such an idea from Debian, I would be willing to promote the idea of deferring the LTS from 10.04 to 10.10 LTS.

reub2000
September 20th, 2009, 03:51 AM
Well I'm thinking that KDE 4 should be very mature by next April. The 4.3.1 release that is currently in Karmic feels pretty solid. I was thinking that the Kubuntu guys could spend some time creating a new theme for KDE for Lucid. The default Oxygen theme is very pretty, but why not create something unique and as polished as the brown and gray theme that has been standard for many Ubuntu releases?

PhoHammer
September 20th, 2009, 04:49 AM
Well I'm thinking that KDE 4 should be very mature by next April. The 4.3.1 release that is currently in Karmic feels pretty solid. I was thinking that the Kubuntu guys could spend some time creating a new theme for KDE for Lucid. The default Oxygen theme is very pretty, but why not create something unique and as polished as the brown and gray theme that has been standard for many Ubuntu releases?

Did you just say you want to "brown" up KDE?? :confused::confused::confused: I hate the brown of Ubuntu!

woodbj
September 20th, 2009, 05:07 AM
http://ostatic.com/blog/ubuntu-version-9-10-code-named-lucid-lynx

What do you think?

Funnnny
September 20th, 2009, 05:14 AM
L-ynx for speed :), yay!

autocrosser
September 20th, 2009, 05:27 AM
Works for me--but I'm sure there will be howls from some quarters :P:P:P

Merk42
September 20th, 2009, 05:33 AM
Apple doesn't have a copyright on big cats for operating system code names? :P

angryfirelord
September 20th, 2009, 05:35 AM
I still want my Grumpy Groundhog release! :mad:

steve161
September 20th, 2009, 05:36 AM
I don't get it. Maybe I'm being too karmic.

wildnfree
September 20th, 2009, 06:52 AM
Then who edited this page? It's not writeable by everyone.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames


Lucid Lynx is the name of the game. Although... the edit is not complete, the bold fonts for L L combination are not taken (look at the page, I don't know how to explain).

Leaping Llama sounds good too.

That page was edited by Josecuervo86
(https://launchpad.net/~josecuervo86)
And no verifyable source has been quoted!

Oak37
September 20th, 2009, 11:20 AM
Lucy Lawless would have been far better but Lynx is still pretty good.

ruik
September 20th, 2009, 11:23 AM
Ok, now let's wait for someone to say that "lucid" is somehow against his/her religion..

Sashin
September 20th, 2009, 11:26 AM
Which definition for lucid is it?

zekopeko
September 20th, 2009, 11:26 AM
Apple doesn't have a copyright on big cats for operating system code names? :P

Not this one.

ljrmorgan
September 20th, 2009, 11:53 AM
Lucy Lawless would have been far better but Lynx is still pretty good.

lol

Personally I thought it'd be a llama...

MacUntu
September 20th, 2009, 12:02 PM
Does this mean 10.04 won't be a LTS release?

imafatmess
September 20th, 2009, 12:03 PM
I personally wanted it to be Lusty Lemming :)

dinxter
September 20th, 2009, 12:07 PM
Does this mean 10.04 won't be a LTS release?
10.04 is LTS, its not a support system based on with or without feathers :)

tghe-retford
September 20th, 2009, 12:12 PM
Apple doesn't have a copyright on big cats for operating system code names? :P
Let's hope they still don't:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_Lynx

Or they still don't:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LynxOS

zekopeko
September 20th, 2009, 12:19 PM
10.04 is LTS, its not a support system based on with or without feathers :)

I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a regular release.
Gnome 3 is around the corner but it could be pushed back to 2.32 ie. 10.10.

dinxter
September 20th, 2009, 12:25 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a regular release.
Gnome 3 is around the corner but it could be pushed back to 2.32 ie. 10.10.
i promise, its LTS with gnome2 fixes

godhika
September 20th, 2009, 12:26 PM
Perhaps the big cat is a hint towards "outpretty" OS X (as stated by Mark Shuttleworth). I keep my fingers crossed

MKdx
September 20th, 2009, 12:36 PM
Lynxes are cool. Glad the name wasn't wasted somehow ;)

Fzang
September 20th, 2009, 02:12 PM
Lame Llama, anyone? No?

gjoellee
September 20th, 2009, 02:16 PM
Which definition for lucid is it?

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=lucid

mikedep333
September 20th, 2009, 03:02 PM
Typically SABDFL posts to the mailing list explaining his rationale for the name:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html

A good Koala knows how to see the wood for the trees, even when her head is in the clouds. Ubuntu aims to keep free software at the forefront of cloud computing by embracing the API's of Amazon EC2, and making it easy for anybody to setup their own cloud using entirely open tools.
I look forward to hearing his explanation for lucid lynx.

Merk42
September 20th, 2009, 03:10 PM
Typically SABDFL posts to the mailing list explaining his rationale for the name:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html

I look forward to hearing his explanation for lucid lynx.

Hey I think I found it

Due to GNOME3 not arriving in time, 10.04 will still not have a new theme. So the only way to attract people is to fool them into thinking this is a Mac OS version. Lucid implies that we're going to fully utilize all the Mac hardwave so people will be satisfied about the switch.
For those of you clamoring for either a massive paradigm change for GNOME3 or even a face lift with a theme, don't worry, it's coming in 10.10, which of course is a full year after Windows 7 and some time after Chrome OS. Here's hoping we aren't completely irrelevant by then!


I really hope you all know that he didn't say that...

Podex
September 20th, 2009, 03:17 PM
Hey I think I found it



I really hope you all know that he didn't say that...

That wasn't funny, I fell for it for a split second and it made me sick.

Robin Nixon
September 20th, 2009, 03:21 PM
Typically SABDFL posts to the mailing list explaining his rationale for the name:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html

I look forward to hearing his explanation for lucid lynx.

I think what will have swayed the decision is that Lucid Lynx sounds (and sorta looks) like Lucid Linux ;)

NCLI
September 20th, 2009, 04:16 PM
i promise, its LTS with gnome2 fixes
How can you promise that when Canonical doesn't even know yet? :-p

tad1073
September 20th, 2009, 04:20 PM
Canonical Does know and besides it came straight from Mark Shuttleworths mouth, which was announced at Atlanta Linux Fest.

TenLeftFingers
September 20th, 2009, 05:42 PM
Perhaps the big cat is a hint towards "outpretty" OS X (as stated by Mark Shuttleworth). I keep my fingers crossed

I hadn't thought of that, but now that you mention it I think you could be very right.

dinxter
September 20th, 2009, 05:53 PM
How can you promise that when Canonical doesn't even know yet? :-p
maybe i shouldn't say promise, instead, i will buy a hat (make it a fedora) and eat it if its not true :)

bapoumba
September 20th, 2009, 05:56 PM
Threads merged.

hoppipolla
September 20th, 2009, 06:03 PM
I'm not sure about this name ._. lol

Jaunty sounds cool, Karmic sounds cool... Lucid... I dunno =\

Chame_Wizard
September 20th, 2009, 09:01 PM
It's Lynx .:P

t0p
September 20th, 2009, 10:15 PM
What a rotten name! Yeah, the "Lynx" bit is cool; but that isn't what we'll call the OS. It'll be "Lucid". Bleh!

We've been having a good-bad alternating name thing going on for a while now. Hardy - good. Intrepid - duh bad! Jaunty - good. Karmic - wtf!? Karmic? So we were due another good one. But instead we got "Lucid". Grrr!!

If I chose my OSes by their names, I wouldn't upgrade to 10.04. But since it's the LTS, and since I'm not so petty and shallow to actually care that much what the thing's called, it will most likely find its way onto my desktop. But Lucid? Bah!!!

Greg
September 20th, 2009, 11:33 PM
I maintain that it should either be Lecherous Llama or Laughing LOLCat

tad1073
September 21st, 2009, 05:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/atllinuxfest#play/all/uploads-all/1/kQjrkvxmAd8 (http://www.youtube.com/user/atllinuxfest)
http://www.youtube.com/user/atllinuxfest#play/all/uploads-all/0/l02bhwofEqw
(http://www.youtube.com/user/atllinuxfest)

coolbrook
September 21st, 2009, 05:33 AM
Just read about the announcement on Facebook. Lynx is good, but not sure about Lucid for LTS. No biggie. What's in a name? Performance, compatibility and ease of use is what matters most.

misfitpierce
September 21st, 2009, 05:49 AM
Yup Ubuntu lynx sounds dank to me. I think it works out just fine.

hoppipolla
September 22nd, 2009, 10:51 PM
What a rotten name! Yeah, the "Lynx" bit is cool; but that isn't what we'll call the OS. It'll be "Lucid". Bleh!

We've been having a good-bad alternating name thing going on for a while now. Hardy - good. Intrepid - duh bad! Jaunty - good. Karmic - wtf!? Karmic? So we were due another good one. But instead we got "Lucid". Grrr!!

If I chose my OSes by their names, I wouldn't upgrade to 10.04. But since it's the LTS, and since I'm not so petty and shallow to actually care that much what the thing's called, it will most likely find its way onto my desktop. But Lucid? Bah!!!

I mostly agree but I think Karmic is the best name yet personally! It sounds kinda cool, but also deep and spiritual! For some reason it has an aura of a really great release ^_^


Yup Ubuntu lynx sounds dank to me. I think it works out just fine.

Yeah thing is though people won't call it Ubuntu Lynx (which would sound quite cool), they will call it Ubuntu Lucid I would imagine.