So is ubuntu really better than Windows?

[R3fr4cti0n]

so i was reading some crap on the net that the reason why windows took 5 yers to make vista is because it was putting alot of other programs together to fit in with it and linux based systems are better now but windows is going to win the long distance run ect ect ect. So does anyone know if this is true? because i feel ubuntu is alot faster and asteticly gorgeust compaired to windows, also from what i have seen windows 7 isent much diffrent than vista. Altho windows is kickn some but in the tablet pc dept. but hopfully ubuntu will come around soon (hint hint..) any other thoughts?

[Whiffle]

<insert wild speculation here>

If somebody knew, and were convincing enough to believed, they could be very very wealthy.


Also, this should be in the cafe.

[overdrank]

Also, this should be in the cafe.

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[NoaHall]

Windows vista took 5 years because they were first going to build it in a entirely different way, but after a bit, they changed their minds, so all the progress they made had to be scraped, and they had to build it from scratch. Windows 7 is basically Vista, but with more bugs ironed out.

Ubuntu doesn't need to win. It's not competing, despite what some users believe. It's the users choice.

[Ancient Dragon]

IMHO MS-Windows is far far better than either ubuntu or fedora. It's a great deal easier to install, maintain, update and add new programs/features. On the flip side, the file system on ubuntu seems to operate faster than Vista-NTFS. But so far that's the only thing that ubuntu has on Windows/Vista. Don't know about Windows-7 because I have not seen it yet.

[xArv3nx]

I really DO think Ubuntu 9.04 is better than Windows, as long as two things happen:

1) You give up PC games
2) You get compatible Linux hardware

you might already be lucky with both, if so good for you. i dual boot xp/ubuntu just because of games though. even IF most of them are compatible with wine, it's better to just run them in windows for better graphical settings, higher fps, and less tweaking.

[Shibblet]

Ubuntu doesn't need to win. It's not competing, despite what some users believe. It's the users choice.

I agree. Although I'd like to see Ubuntu gain more marketshare than it's 0.5% (speculative) right now. It's not in the same market as Windows.

If you'd like to know any reason to have Ubuntu over Windows, there are many people out there who can explain better than I can about the benefits. But here are my personal reasons.


It's faster (response, boot, application loading)
More Efficient (RAM utilization, Processor utilization, etc.)
It's more secure. (no open ports by default, viruses aren't an issue)
It's more stable. (Doesn't crash.)
It's FREE! (Windows 7 Upgrade is $129.95)
It comes with a complete office software suite. (MS Office is another $129.95)
It has access to an entire online repository of programs, which are all FREE.
An online community at www.ubuntuforums.org that loves to help new users, and even assist older ones.


And with Wine, you can run most of the Windows native programs right in Ubuntu.

[hoppipolla]

I think Linux/Ubuntu does have some large advantages over Windows at the moment, but is also lacking in other areas.

I think more support and a slightly more polished desktop should fix a lot of our problems though :)

[SunnyRabbiera]

IMHO MS-Windows is far far better than either ubuntu or fedora. It's a great deal easier to install, maintain, update and add new programs/features. On the flip side, the file system on ubuntu seems to operate faster than Vista-NTFS. But so far that's the only thing that ubuntu has on Windows/Vista. Don't know about Windows-7 because I have not seen it yet.

Yeh needing to defrag, needing antivirus, and anti malware... real friggin easy

[noelvh]

I have to jump in here and say I would rather use Ubuntu over Windows any day. I spend all day fixing windows and when I get home I don't want to fix my computers. I have a XP box for my games as yes Windows dose games better (makes me think of it as a toy). For my laptop it only runs Ubuntu, with XP in VM so I can help those who cant help them selfs.

As for a polished desktop you have to be kidding me!!!!! My desktop is great!!! I do love KDE but am running Ubuntu till they refine KDE a bit more.
But over all I don't care what windows people think or do, that is there problem not mine. Hey they have been letting Mac bash them all over the place and have done nothing to combat Mac.

I hope Windows 7 is good as I will be fixing it soon when my company moves to it next year. Till then I am very happy with Ubuntu 9.04, and can't wait for the next version (you know the FREE one) to come out.

Now I would like better drivers or support for hard ware but that is not all ways the fault of Linux, but more the makers of the hard ware.If they only took the time to make some thing for linux they would see sales grow.
But I can't complain as all my stuff works with out issue. Well I have an old web cam that works some times, and I can not get dual monitors to work with out a system halt. So if you are a windows lover go back to it, and stop bad mouthing Ubuntu, and linux.
I know why Win users are bad mouthing Linux cause Mac is bashing Windows so windows users thing they can bash Linux. Well I say bash away keep it coming but just know that we can all ways reply, but you have to wait to reboot after the BSOD, or you system hangs up.

Noel

[Tipped OuT]

No.

Every operating system has its ups and downs. It all depends on which ups you need, and which downs you don't mind.

No operating system is better then the other. It's all opinions.

[Shibblet]

Oops.

[Shibblet]

No.

Every operating system has its ups and downs. It all depends on which ups you need, and which downs you don't mind.

No operating system is better then the other. It's all opinions.

I disagree. Anyone would tell you XP is better than 3.1.

:lolflag:

[Tipped OuT]

I disagree. Anyone would tell you XP is better than 3.1.

:lolflag:

In your opinion.

If someone has a very old computer from the stone age, they would prefer 3.1. to XP.

Think my friend.

[Shibblet]

In your opinion.

If someone has a very old computer from the stone age, they would prefer 3.1. to XP.

Think my friend.

See, I did think. If someone had a very old computer, wouldn't the new computer with XP on it be better?

Hence the -- :lolflag:

[hoppipolla]

No.

Every operating system has its ups and downs. It all depends on which ups you need, and which downs you don't mind.

No operating system is better then the other. It's all opinions.

I don't know if that's true, I mean some operating systems are probably nowhere near as complete in any way as Ubuntu, Windows or OSX, and so in that way can be considered "worse". Out of the big 3 though, yeah I think at the moment they all have their pros and cons :)

[Tipped OuT]

See, I did think. If someone had a very old computer, wouldn't the new computer with XP on it be better?

Hence the -- :lolflag:
I don't know if that's true, I mean some operating systems are probably nowhere near as complete in any way as Ubuntu, Windows or OSX, and so in that way can be considered "worse". Out of the big 3 though, yeah I think at the moment they all have their pros and cons :)

You guys aren't making reasonable comparisons though. Of course Ubuntu will be a better operating system compared to something like Windows 98.

I'm talking about things like Windows 7 vs Ubuntu 9.10, or OSX Snow Leapord vs Windows 7. etc.

Anyways, this wasn't even what I really meant. I just meant Windows, Ubuntu, and OS X in general.

[Frak]

Ubuntu doesn't need to win. It's not competing, despite what some users believe. It's the users choice.

Yes it is, Bug #1 says it is.

[Bachstelze]

Yes it is, Bug #1 says it is.

Bug #1 is the most successful troll ever. Even Frak fell for it. :o

[Frak]

Bug #1 is the most successful troll ever. Even Frak fell for it. :o
Troll falling for a Troll? NOWAI

[73ckn797]

Windows has its place in my working environment, but only because one clients system will only let me upload photos via IE. There are some programs that I would like to have working in Ubuntu. Wine does not do the job with those programs, I have tried.

On the other hand, Ubuntu is my primary system and after spending even a little time in Windows, I am so glad to reboot into Ubuntu. I could use VirtualBox and have but did not want to jump through the hoops to get several things functioning. That was my own decision. I know those issues can be resolved but I do not want to take the time to work through it all. Besides, my need in Windows really do not require me to take those measures.

Those are my sentiments and they do differ from other people. That is the beauty of having options. If it works for what you need, then use it.

[Shibblet]

You guys aren't making reasonable comparisons though.

No, we're not, but that's why I threw in the
:lolflag:
So that we all knew that it wasn't a serious statement.

Apparently some of us missed that, so I am making it clear now.

[Tipped OuT]

No, we're not, but that's why I threw in the
:lolflag:
So that we all knew that it wasn't a serious statement.

Apparently some of us missed that, so I am making it clear now.

"LOL" Just means you're laughing, not that it isn't a serious statement. But okay, thanks for the clarification.

[R3fr4cti0n]

hey i wasn't bashing anything, i just wanted some clarity on what i read. it seems more like an article that Microsoft put out to instill confidence in vista n 7. i love ubuntu, i just wish all my crap with my tablet pc worked and i wouldn't't have to be a programer to get it to work, but thats my only fuss

[kitchenguy]

I love these debates. Lately I find myself reasoning this way. Most people I know use their computer at home (and this is where this debate matters because at work you don't normally get to choose your OS) for browsing and emailing and maybe writing the odd document or doing a budget in a spreadsheet. The other thing the majority of them do is internet banking and/or ebay.

Therefore I think the best OS for most people I know is one that is secure and easy to use.

From what I have been able to figure out it is easier to hack into or give a virus to a windows system than a linux system - could be wrong, but that's what appears to be the case. I base this on stuff I have read and the fact that my company runs red hat on linux on the really big servers that keep everything going. I have no formal training in being a system admin or a network engineer so this is purely a novice opinion but I think this means linux is a at least a bit safer than windows.
So, based on all that, I figure I would rather go from facebook to my banking in Linux rather than windows.
Must say though I do kinda like Win7, it is part of my multiboot. When I first installed it and ran it I got the feeling that maybe Billy boy had been secretly keeping some breed of penguin in his office for ideas. The other reason I prefer Linux is you still have to reboot a lot more in Win than you do in Lin.

[Chame_Wizard]

Being a server or desktop PC,Ubuntu is better than Windows.:lolflag:

[Compintuit]

There are only a couple things I can't(Or don't know how to)do in linux. And I'd like to make one thing astoundingly clear: Karmic Alpha 3+ Has been more stable then my XP. If that doesn't count for something, I don't know what does. Only apple stuff I've used is a ipod touch (which really is a beauty) so I can't say for apple - But I look for features in windows I can't get in linux - and they are few and far between.

Though technically, X may be inferior to whatever windows use, I've heard.

[Shibblet]

There are only a couple things I can't(Or don't know how to)do in linux. And I'd like to make one thing astoundingly clear: Karmic Alpha 3+ Has been more stable then my XP. If that doesn't count for something, I don't know what does. Only apple stuff I've used is a ipod touch (which really is a beauty) so I can't say for apple - But I look for features in windows I can't get in linux - and they are few and far between.

Though technically, X may be inferior to whatever windows use, I've heard.

Ha! The only thing keeping me from dropping Windows like spit off a balcony is iTunes, and Adobe Design Suite CS4.

Wine'll have 'em soon.

[Tipped OuT]

Ha! The only thing keeping me from dropping Windows like spit off a balcony is iTunes, and Adobe Design Suite CS4.

Wine'll have 'em soon.

For me it's the games, support, and Adobe applications.