Easy Ubuntu 3 preview and new website

[keyes]

Hi guys !
Here is a news from the EasyUbuntu team.

EasyUbuntu (the first, easy, and secure magic Ubuntu configurator) version 3 is comming soon !
A preview version is available.

GET IT NOW and see the new website (http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/)

EasyUbuntu has been completly rewrited in Python / GTK and is really better and nicer than EasyUbuntu v2 and Automatix.

http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/images/screenshot1.png

Packages are now installed with Synaptic (no apt-get --force-yes), errors are grabbed and displayed, previous sources.list is replaced OR saved, all the files are backuped, ...

We only use trusted, safe and secure repositories.

There is also some new features (MIDI support, Ctrl + Alt + Del open the system monitor, ...) and some are comming soon (KDE/QT apps integrated in GNOME, OpenWengo VOIP, ...).

AMD64 and PPC are now supported (without w32codecs, Flash and Skype).

It's a preview release, there are some minor bugs and some minor functions are not working but it's safe.

Contributors and translators are welcomed : join us at #easyubuntu @ irc.freenode.org or read our launchpad page (http://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu).

A module system and a GUI abstraction layer (for KDE/QT frontend)will be merged with the main trunk soon.

EDIT: This post has been edited by staff to remove content that is in violation of the Forum Guidelines posting rule #3. Please remember to respect all users of this forum.

[ardchoille]

This app determines the operating system based on the contents of /etc/issue ?

One of the first things I do after a fresh install is replace the text in /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net with "This is a private network". I know a Red Hat employee who uses "Tresspassers will be shot!" in his /etc/issue and /etc/issue.net files. I was told long ago by a Unix guru that, "it's a bad idea to advertise the operating system".

Wouldn't it be a better idea to determine the operating system by doing "lsb_release -a | grep Ubuntu" ?

[manicka]

Everything about easy ubuntu looks easy except for how to use it. I cannot find any documentation on the website or in the package about how to run the program. Am I missing something here or are you expecting everyone to know the command gksu ./easybuntu.py. Or perhaps they are expected to just click on the files until they find the desktop config file. I thought this was supposed to be 'easy' ubuntu.

If I was a first time user (fresh off the windows boat) that would put me off. You shouldn't have to be an experienced Linux user to use a program designed for n00bs.

[keyes]

* It's a preview release for testers and developpers, the desktop file is not ready.
When the first beta will be released you will be able to run EasyUbuntu in one click (like all others releases).

* Thanks for the lsb_release trick, we will use that.

[ember]

I have not tried it yet. But I have a question: Does it now start with the options checked that you have installed?

[robotgeek]

No, that has not been implemented yet. It is a good idea, we still need to get some background work done before we can implement that feature.

[az]

Looks nice. I like that you ditched zenity!

I don't know what you said that got edited, but I can guess, and I probably agree with you!

I have not tried this. Before I do, is this a version for Dapper? If not, will there be one? Will there be a deb package available? Will a deb be included in universe or multiverse?

[keyes]

I have not tried this. Before I do, is this a version for Dapper?

No

If not, will there be one? Will there be a deb package available? Will a deb be included in universe or multiverse?

Yes, yes and yes.

[robotgeek]

No
Yes, yes and yes.
Hmm, I am not sure if we will be able to finish fixing all the bugs we know of before the feature freeze for Dapper. If not, then Dapper + 1.

So, I would say Yes, Yes and maybe :)

[ow50]

Do you have plans to follow the GNOME HIG (http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/)? Most importantly you're lacking mnemonics (http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/input-keyboard.html)and your spacings (http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/2.0/design-window.html) are off. I'd be willing to hack on the Glade files if needed.

[keyes]

Patches are welcome !
Yes we want to follow the GNOME HIG.

[ichan83]

hi guys,
i just installed ubuntu and got easy ubuntu but i can't seem to install some of the packages... the nvidia drivers are installed but the others like the video/mp3 codecs or Voip programs are not installed at all

i'm running the 64 bit version of ubuntu
any help is appreciated

[ichan83]

sorry this seems rather absent-minded

i'm running ubuntu 5.10

the previous comments were directed at earlier versions of easyubuntu

but when i installed the latest nightly version if EasyUbuntu, i run the program and it asks me for my root password... but when i enter it, it says wrong password...

any ideas?

[robotgeek]

hi guys,
i just installed ubuntu and got easy ubuntu but i can't seem to install some of the packages... the nvidia drivers are installed but the others like the video/mp3 codecs or Voip programs are not installed at all

i'm running the 64 bit version of ubuntu
any help is appreciated
Binary codecs for AMD64 are not available. Skype is not available for amd64. We havent built OPen WEngo for AMD64 yet.

[earobinson]

Question If i run this on a computer that has all ready been set up will I have ne problems, just wanting to test!

[robotgeek]

Question If i run this on a computer that has all ready been set up will I have ne problems, just wanting to test!
It doesn't install stuff if you already have them installed. Neither does it affect your sources.list, unless you want it to :)

So, please test it out. There are bugs we know of which are on our launchpad page, if you find a new one, file it :)

[earobinson]

It doesn't install stuff if you already have them installed. Neither does it affect your sources.list, unless you want it to :)

So, please test it out. There are bugs we know of which are on our launchpad page, if you find a new one, file it :)
Thanks for the reply.... will test tonight :)

[mips]

Where are the install instructions and maybe you should mention that it works in Kubuntu.

[robotgeek]

Where are the install instructions and maybe you should mention that it works in Kubuntu.
It doesn't install yet, you just download it and run it. I would recommend that you get the svn version, people are fixing bugs everyday!

http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html

It doesn't work on Kubuntu yet, I am working on a port.

[Virtual DarKness]

Hi,
Just wanted to say thanks to people working on this project for the great work they are doing!

The fact that easyubuntu doesn't edit sources.list is a very nice feature; in this direction would be nice to have another tab with suggested unofficial repositories (and a description of what they provide) that user can view (and then copy and paste by hand in sources.list) or that can insert in source.list just selecting the repositories that he wants with checkbox and then clicking a button will add them to the sources.list.

bye,
Giovanni.

p.s.
is just me or there were some tutorials on the breezy customization guide that have been removed (maybe) because they told users how to did things that are being done by automatix? I can swear I saw howto about firestarter and numlock that can't find no more... and this for me sounds bad [-( :-k

[robotgeek]

in this direction would be nice to have another tab with suggested unofficial repositories (and a description of what they provide) that user can view (and then copy and paste by hand in sources.list) or that can insert in source.list just selecting the repositories that he wants with checkbox and then clicking a button will add them to the sources.list.

EasyUbuntu also has this feature under the System Tab. It will enable (universe,multiverse,and plf) together in the sources.list. Another contributor is working on a page with a description of what each option does. The description of the repositories is avaialble in the help menu, so I think it will be redundant to include that.


p.s.
is just me or there were some tutorials on the breezy customization guide that have been removed (maybe) because they told users how to did things that are being done by automatix? I can swear I saw howto about firestarter and numlock that can't find no more... and this for me sounds bad [-( :-k

I don't know about the forums, but i think they are available in the Ubuntu Starter Guide.

[teolemon]

The svn command keeps telling me access denied. Am i missing something ?
I've installed subversion and i've tried as well with sudo

[robotgeek]

The svn command keeps telling me access denied. Am i missing something ?
I've installed subversion and i've tried as well with sudo
The subversion server is being moved/getting upgraded. I think it should be back up soon, hopefully. Meanwhile, this should work


wget http://robotgeek.org/easyubuntu-rev53.tar.gz
tar -zxf easyubuntu-rev53.tar.gz
cd easyubuntu
gksudo ./easyubuntu.py


Edit: the svn is up

[no-success]

ok how the heck to i install this? it keeps telling me i need to be logged in as root to install most of this stuff. why arent there any instructions on how to install this on the easyubuntu official site?

[no-success]

i guess i finall got it to install however i got tons of critical errors

wes@ubuntu:~/easyubuntu$ gksudo ./easyubuntu.py
warnings.warn("apt API not stable yet", FutureWarning)
x86 Detected
Customized sources.list generated

(synaptic:8650): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed

(synaptic:8650): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
Synaptic exited with return code = 0

(synaptic:8653): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed

(synaptic:8653): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed

(gnome-terminal:8655): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.

(gnome-terminal:8655): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed

(gnome-terminal:8655): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
Gnome-Terminal exited with return code = 0


this is on a completely fresh install.

[spyke01]

is this application open-source?

[robotgeek]

is this application open-source?

Yes! It's FREE as in freedom.

[robotgeek]

i guess i finall got it to install however i got tons of critical errors



(synaptic:8650): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed

(synaptic:8650): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed

ignore these things. happens when gtk app is launched from command line.


Synaptic exited with return code = 0

Nothing to worry about here too, it just means synaptic exited correctly. These are present for debugging puposes right now.


(gnome-terminal:8655): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.

I have no clue why this happened. If it happens again, file a bug. (see signature)


Gnome-Terminal exited with return code = 0

Same as synaptic

However, does EasyUbuntu work correctly? Do you have latest SVN (tarball has not been updated, some problem with the script to generate it, I guess)

[spyke01]

how do i get the source code to modify it, i want to make an application like this so i can use it for installing server applications

[tenshu]

.py are fully editable
Remember that Easyubuntu is under GPL
so if you release a fork you must use GPL license
and share source code too
(some people usually forget those simple rules)

[spyke01]

actually your wrong and may want to consider the lgpl the gpl states that you may change and redistribute freely but that you dont have to release the code(cedega screwed wie this way) the lgpl is what you described

[AgenT]

actually your wrong and may want to consider the lgpl the gpl states that you may change and redistribute freely but that you dont have to release the code(cedega screwed wie this way) the lgpl is what you described
It's nice that you think that he is wrong, but get ready for 101 GPL Ninja's to slash and burn you for not understanding the GPL. May I suggest you go and read the actual GNU General Public License (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html) (GPL) yourself? It's a nice website because it offers more than just English. This may be helpful seeing that your primary language may be some language other than English and the cause of your misunderstanding.

But to save you from the pain of 101 Ninja's slashing and burning you, here is a quote from the above mentioned website:
The GPL does not require you to release your modified version. You are free to make modifications and use them privately, without ever releasing them. This applies to organizations (including companies), too; an organization can make a modified version and use it internally without ever releasing it outside the organization.

But if you release the modified version to the public in some way, the GPL requires you to make the modified source code available to the program's users, under the GPL.

[Elvish Legion]

So if I read this thread right this is another opition to automatix, except with an actuly GUI not a console?

[spyke01]

sorry bout that misunderstanding, ill gladly rerelease the source code, i do it with almost all of my applications anyways

i had read that cedega had copyrighted the wine3d(?) source code under the gpl and didnt release the source code, so thats why i thought that the gpl didnt make you release it. again sorry for the misunderstanding

[robotgeek]

how do i get the source code to modify it, i want to make an application like this so i can use it for installing server applications
The code is available on svn. Check out website for details on how to get it (see signature).

[m42technic]

Ok I too have been having some problems trying to install this. Can someone help me out with explicit instructions on what to do to download and get EasyUbuntu up and running on a fresh install?

[keyes]

sudo apt-get install subversion
svn co svn://freecontrib.org/easyubuntu/
cd easyubuntu/trunk/
sudo ./easyubuntu.py

[m42technic]

sudo apt-get install subversion
svn co svn://freecontrib.org/easyubuntu/
cd easyubuntu/trunk/
sudo ./easyubuntu.py

Thank you, worked like a charm. :)

[transistor]

sudo apt-get install subversion
svn co svn://freecontrib.org/easyubuntu/
cd easyubuntu/trunk/
sudo ./easyubuntu.py

This seems to work, thank you.
Now how do I start EasyUbuntu?

[teolemon]

svn doesn't seem to be working here?
Do you still have problems with your host?
Is EasyUbuntu stalled for the moment?
Are you just developping it in secret to make us a big surprise ?

[robotgeek]

svn doesn't seem to be working here?
Do you still have problems with your host?
Is EasyUbuntu stalled for the moment?
Are you just developping it in secret to make us a big surprise ?
Yes, problems with the host it seems.

I have been busy with some stuff lately, but i should be working on EU soon. No developing in secret and stuff, heh.