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pemur1
August 28th, 2009, 06:33 PM
When is too much actually too much?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html

days_of_ruin
August 28th, 2009, 07:11 PM
Well this sucks.

RiceMonster
August 28th, 2009, 07:14 PM
Why would Bill do that? I thought better of him.

Sporkman
August 28th, 2009, 07:15 PM
Why would Bill do that? I thought better of him.

:lol:

madjr
August 28th, 2009, 07:23 PM
good thing this only happens in the US

Firestem4
August 28th, 2009, 07:28 PM
good thing this only happens in the US

Yeah...Hooray for me...*grumbles about perfect european society*:lolflag:

On topic...Well this just sucks...Time to call my representative...AGAIN.

Ozor Mox
August 28th, 2009, 07:35 PM
good thing this only happens in the US

Too right. The US scares me sometimes...a lot. I only hope the EU doesn't copy them. Still good on software patents, for now...

dragos240
August 28th, 2009, 07:39 PM
Darn. I hope this doesn't get passed, if it hasn't already

As for the article, TL;DR

LowSky
August 28th, 2009, 07:41 PM
The new version would allow the president to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" relating to "non-governmental" computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for "cybersecurity professionals," and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.

I laughed reading this, so the internet needs government trained and certified people to work at private companies that host or broadcast computer data connections... really? Who's going to pay for that?

So instead of getting the US out of debt as quickly and painlessly we are deciding to create more programs and bureaucracy. I guess we can borrow more money from the Federal Reserve!

Who elects these people?

Firestem4
August 28th, 2009, 07:42 PM
Who elects these people?

I'd like to know that too. I sure as hell didn't.

dragos240
August 28th, 2009, 07:42 PM
I laughed reading this, so the internet needs government trained and certified people to work at private companies that host or broadcast computer data connections... really? Who's going to pay for that?

So instead of getting the US out of debt as quickly and painlessly we are deciding to create more programs and bureaucracy. I guess we can borrow more money from the Federal Reserve!

Who elects these people?

We do.

MaxIBoy
August 28th, 2009, 07:51 PM
I would find it amusing if the government suddenly needed to handle a DDOS coming out of 4chan or something.

But really, this isn't worth it. The beauty of the Internet is that no one controls it.

Ric_NYC
August 28th, 2009, 07:54 PM
It should be kept in the US territory. Since the politicians were elected by the American people.

To me it sounds more like China or Hugo Chavez thing...

KiwiNZ
August 28th, 2009, 07:58 PM
The beauty of the Internet is that no one controls it.


Yeah right;)

KiwiNZ
August 28th, 2009, 07:59 PM
Please limit this to " politics directly related to free and open source issues." as the banner states

pemur1
August 28th, 2009, 08:06 PM
Please limit this to " politics directly related to free and open source issues." as the banner states

My apologies for posting this.

Jackelope
August 28th, 2009, 08:07 PM
Well, this is scary. What will they try to take over next?

The good news is that cyberspace is a living, breathing entity made by millions of minds, and even if they shut down the whole WWW, we'll just remake it as WWW2. :)

Viva
August 28th, 2009, 08:15 PM
I can understand any government's desire to control the internet. Some of those self-proclaimed free speech advocates have taken the internet a bit too far starting with e-attacks against those who share a different belief to actually posting death threats and often invading somebody's personal privacy.

pastalavista
August 28th, 2009, 08:20 PM
Well, this is scary. What will they try to take over next?

The good news is that cyberspace is a living, breathing entity made by millions of minds, and even if they shut down the whole WWW, we'll just remake it as WWW2. :)

What's scarier is the knowledge (not suspicion) that terrorist hackers could take control of military, transportation and public works via large corporate and industrial networks. I always assumed the gov't would not hesitate to shut anyone down in defense from any kind of cyber attack. It would not be impossible to turn off the internet, but not without serious consequences. The President needs to be able to take extreme measures in extreme circumstances.

schauerlich
August 28th, 2009, 08:37 PM
We do.

No you don't. You're 14.

dragos240
August 28th, 2009, 08:39 PM
Good point, excluding me, and everyone below 18.

RiceMonster
August 28th, 2009, 08:40 PM
No you don't. You're 14.

lol

days_of_ruin
August 28th, 2009, 08:56 PM
Good point, excluding me, and everyone below 18.

And everyone who doesn't live in West Virginia or Maine.

Jimleko211
August 28th, 2009, 09:00 PM
Yeah, the president is given "control over the internet". So it looks like Congress can't read "inter-" properly. I swear as soon as I can I'm moving to freakin' Europe ><

Tristam Green
August 28th, 2009, 09:08 PM
Yeah, the president is given "control over the internet". So it looks like Congress can't read "inter-" properly. I swear as soon as I can I'm moving to freakin' Europe ><

Door's that way. Have fun.

Jimleko211
August 28th, 2009, 09:20 PM
Door's that way. Have fun.
I shall, once I can actually support myself and save up the money :P

red_Marvin
August 28th, 2009, 10:07 PM
This is crazy, the internet is an international thing, I hope Europe|the world has backup plans if some fool actually decides to pull the plug.
I don't know the structure but ICANN, which is the boss entity IIRC is still US only, or has that changed?
We should move to IPv6, and have the first n bits as a country code or something...

gradinaruvasile
August 28th, 2009, 10:10 PM
Why would Bill do that? I thought better of him.

:lolflag:

mystmaiden
August 28th, 2009, 10:31 PM
this is just a freakin' scary concept - way too damn 'big brother is watching' - appalling.

myst (who is now entirely creeped out)

hanzomon4
August 28th, 2009, 10:35 PM
This is reasonable.. especially with smart grids and our dependence on the net. It's a utility and during times of crisis who do you want managing things... ATT?

xuCGC002
August 28th, 2009, 10:39 PM
*walks to canada*

cguy
August 28th, 2009, 11:00 PM
First Monica and now this?
**** you Bill! :D

--

Is there a month when the US govenment doesn't try to take over the world?

madjr
August 29th, 2009, 03:42 AM
if the US is unplugged we won't miss much, just:

facebook
ebay

and

bing


me thinks we can still live without those

dragos240
August 29th, 2009, 03:46 AM
All your DNS servers are belong to us?

Moop
August 29th, 2009, 03:57 AM
I wonder if he has a special code he keys into his blackberry and the internet goes poof?

MikeTheC
August 29th, 2009, 06:43 AM
Sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction. Other times, like now, it's sicker than fiction.

Link: cnet.com: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html)

Please discuss...

Giant Speck
August 29th, 2009, 06:50 AM
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LookTJ
August 29th, 2009, 07:04 AM
This sounds like a bad idea.

This in my opinion would give the US a bad reputation towards Internet companies and users.

HappinessNow
August 29th, 2009, 08:13 AM
We can always leave the US also.

RabbitWho
August 29th, 2009, 08:52 AM
*walks to canada*

Yes. That's right. Everyone get up and go for a nice walk. Repetitive stress disorder and CTS count as emergencies.



We can always leave the US also.



Well don't come looking for jobs here!

bapoumba
August 29th, 2009, 01:07 PM
This thread has been reported several times now. Closing for review, thanks.

Edit: the thread will remain closed.