Guild Wars & Cedega, a noobs experience!

[handy]

[Edit:] For a summary of setting up GW for fastest smoothest play via the GW Options Menu, go straight to Page 5, Post 49.

I installed the Cedega TimeDemo, last night, its version 5.2 I think. (It was sooo much easier to install than the CVScedega routine, which I couldn't get GW to run on anyway :confused: ).

Due the the fact that I had allready installed both Wine & CVScedega, I made sure that the GWsetup.exe was set (via the icon's Properties/Open With/ ) to default to cedega_timedemo, & reinstalled GW via GWsetup.exe.

This worked fine, & it automatically opened the GW login screen after downloading the initial requirements for the game. My mouse was unavailable, but after closing & reopening the GW login, it was there & login worked as it should! :KS This was a victory & a first for me & Ubuntu (linux) :KS


Game play was automatically set to 1024x768, (in windoze I play 1600x1200) & it was only noticably a little slower at times, but still perfectly playable. The mouse takes about 5 seconds to get it's act together after changing localities. This is not a problem.

I will try it at 1600x1200, there is a good chance that it will perform the same, as the graphics card is probably(?) taking the load anyway, time will tell!?

I wanted to try this free cedega demo, before I payed up the funds. I am happy that it works & quite easily too.

So, now I will pay for the minimum 3 months, & take KingBahamut's advice & try the 4.4.3 version, if it is better great, if not, it still works quite well enough for me to avoid booting into windoze! :KS

I will put further feedback here after I try the 4.4.3 version of cedega, for anyone that is interested, because I certainly am!

[Artificial Intelligence]

and the good thing is there's a .deb files for installation, in the pay version ^^

[handy]

I payed up & installed the latest 5.03 version of Cedega.

It was harder to get GW running this time, but I got there. It would seem that 5.03 is slower than 5.02! Is this possible / normal?

I experience more lag now, even though I am using the same settings as before?

I have removed CVScedega & the cedega_timedemo, but wine is still functioning fine!

Is it possible to install more than one version of Cedega on the same machine?

I would like to install Cedega 4.4.3, & see how it runs, without having to remove 5.0.3, because it must be good for something? It would seem that it isn't great for GW , on my machine anyway!

[Sutekh]

Is it possible to install more than one version of Cedega on the same machine?

You can install more than one Cedega 'engine'. Its in the Transgaming -> Install Local Update menu.


I would like to install Cedega 4.4.3, & see how it runs, without having to remove 5.0.3, because it must be good for something? It would seem that it isn't great for GW , on my machine anyway!
Check out the Transgaming Games Database (http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/). You can check out if a particular game is supported. You can also rate a game using a particular version of the cedega engine.

Guild Wars Rating (http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/ratings/view.mhtml?game_id=3370)

[handy]

You can install more than one Cedega 'engine'. Its in the Transgaming -> Install Local Update menu.

Thanks for that... Cedega is doing the pre-install download of ver. 4.4.3 at this very moment! :-D

Check out the Transgaming Games Database (http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/). You can check out if a particular game is supported. You can also rate a game using a particular version of the cedega engine.

I'm aware of the Cedega forum, etc... They do call GW a supported game, many don't agree on the forum, it would seem that many others do!? Quite a contentous issue.

I've just tested GW under 4.4.3 Cedega, & it is definately much better!

The mouse appears as it should after changing localities, & there is much less lag. There is still lag sometimes, but it is certainly playable again. :KS

Thanks for your help...

From my experience now I would have to agree with KingBahamut, that Cedega 4.4.3 is the version of preference for Guild Wars, without a doubt!

[handy]

OK, I have put the hours in now, with GW, running on Cedega 4.4.3, & have my verdict for my circumstances.

Cedega is certainly demanding on it's user's, thankfully this forum is here, it has a nicer attitude than the TransGaming one. Not that I've posted there.

The bottom line is that GW under Cedega at this stage, is too laggy, when first entering the game, after changing locations or transporting to another section of the map. (zoning)

It can take minutes before it gets it's act together & allows me real-time control of my character. Some map changes are much worse than others. After about 10 hours of GW on Cedega 4.4.3, I had to boot into xp to play the game. :(

Once the afore mentioned lag (delay) is overcome by the software, the game play is perfectly acceptable. Albeit in a lower screen resolution & graphic detail level than under windoze, BUT still very nice to look at & on the whole VERY smooth! :KS

I guess the only caveat is that my machine is a high performance (not the highest by any means) machine, so on a machine with much less ram & a mid to low end 3d graphics card, I don't like to think of what the performance of GW under Cedega would be like. Perhaps someone will post?

I believe that the Cedega developers are sooo close to having it right. It is just a matter of time.

I am patient...


In the meantime, I will play GW under xp, why should I suffer!?

[EDIT:] At last I've found a pleasurable use for windoze!!

[Sutekh]

Thanks for sharing your experience handy. You are right about the difference in attitude between the two forums. I like it much more here!

Sucks that you still had problems with GW. I hope you find something that will work nicely with the Cedega engines you have. In the meantime I guess windows is the best option.

Not wanting to side-track, but the reason I bought Cedega, was because I had issues playing games in WinXP; namely Knights of the Old Republic. I had bad crashing issues in Windows, so I thought why not try Cedega. It runs real nice but I have the same problems as I did with windows. At least I don't need to use windows as you do.

Anyway, your experience has sparked my interest in trying GW. So I'm gonna see how it goes when I borrow my friends copy. Your specs look better than mine in a lot of areas so we'll see what happens. I have a AMDX2 3800, 1GB RAM, a 6600GT and plenty of HDD space. I doubt the dual-core processor will help out too much, but I'm interested all the same.

Anyway thanks again for sharing! :)

[handy]

Let us know how you go?

If we all share, we can build on each others knowledge, I have invented sooo many wheels in my life...:rolleyes:

[Sutekh]

Let us know how you go?

If we all share, we can build on each others knowledge, I have invented sooo many wheels in my life...:rolleyes:
Haha, I know that feeling, so much better to have someone to go 'hey that wheel's a square!' [-(

[Brynster]

Ok so you piqued my interest

I have Cedega GW installed, and i use 4.4.3 as the cedega engine.

My System is a AMD athlon 2800, 1024gb ram and a Nvidia FX6600GT 128mb AGP.

In ubuntu i get great frame rates using and it looks as slick as a bag of eels. The down side is I get a 5-10 second pause when zoning where i cannot see my mouse pointer, and some of the high bloom video effects are not correct/present. This running at 1024x768 full screen. No lag or jitters.

So i dug out my spare drive installed the leading competitors OS in its "professional" variation.

Installed GW again and here we go. Basically identical escept 3 things It has the high bloom effects makes things look purdyer. When zoning no pause. But worst of all I get lag and jitters. which to me are much more annoying than anything Cedega throws at me.

On Balance i am sticking with the Cedega version for the sake of my sanity. Nothing worse that running around to just stop mid stride for it to begin running again a few seconds later.....


Just my input

[handy]

That's bizzaaar! :confused:

This may very well be a cedega configuration issue!

Can you post your cedega config file Brynster?

It may bring something to light if we are fortunate.

Thanks for your post...:KS

[Sutekh]

Hey handy, do you use powernow (CPU frequency scaling) with your AMD3500?

I initially had problems with gaming because the CPU was scaled back to 1GHz and was only bumped to 2GHz when lots of stuff happened. The freq change caused a lot of lag for me.

[handy]

I obviously do use it, 'cause I see my cpu mostly sitting at 1Ghz! It speeds up to 2.2 when it needs to.

Hmmm!

So you reckon I ought to turn it off eh?

Could you tell me how I do that please?

[Sutekh]

Well I would add a frequency scaling applet to a panel.

You can use it to set the speed of the processor directly or choose set the governor, which basically sets the behaviour of the scaling. Performance governors I think flick to high frequency and stay there, while others jump between speeds dependin on demand.

I just added one (well two, cos I have dual-core :)) to my panel and when I go to play a game, set the frequency to 2GHz.

[handy]

Can you give me names & locations please & I'll test it out today/night.

Thanks for your time!

[Sutekh]

Sure!

Right-Click any panel and choose 'Add to Panel'. Scroll down to 'Frequency Scaling Applet' and drag it onto a panel. You should get a little chip and a bar next to it (see pic).

Once its there, you should be able to right-click on it, and choose whether or not the applet shows the available frequencies, governors or both. Then when that's done, you can left-click on the chip to choose the Frequency or the Governor.

I think that's it. I'm procrastinating at work, so this is going from memory. One of these I will put Ubuntu on my PC....

[leetcharmer]

does anyone know how to successfully install Guild Wars on an AMD 64? I have Cedega installed, but it gives me errors about libx11 when trying to install Guild Wars. Also, the OpenGL and other graphics tests fail while doing Cedega system tests, even though glxgears opens and appears to run even faster than normal. Ideas on how I can fix this?

[handy]

does anyone know how to successfully install Guild Wars on an AMD 64? I have Cedega installed, but it gives me errors about libx11 when trying to install Guild Wars. Also, the OpenGL and other graphics tests fail while doing Cedega system tests, even though glxgears opens and appears to run even faster than normal. Ideas on how I can fix this?

Which graphics card are you using?

I'm on nVidia, & I used Automatix to install the drivers, & it was a breeze!

libx11 is in Synaptic, mine was pre-installed by something, 'cause I didn't.

Are you running 32bit Breezy, by the way?

I'm on 32bit,with 64bit CPU, no prob's at all.

[handy]

Sutekh, I allready have the Frequency Scaling Applet installed, but mine only gives me display options!?

I found this in the online help:

The Frequency Selector functionality may not be available on your GNOME Desktop by default. Please consult your system administrator, vendor documentation, or the documentation that came with this software.

I wonder what I have to do to turn this on on my modern piece of hardware running 32bit Breezy 5.10?

[handy]

I have been testing Guild Wars, with the graphics turned right down as far as they will go in the GW options menu.

This works for me! @ 1600x1200 & fast & smooth as can be!!!

The only issue is that I have a moment or two, & that's all, after zoning, with the mouse catching up! This is not an issue.

Read: - NO LAG

The graphics are still beautiful, I'm now happy to play GW on Ubuntu!!:KS :KS :KS

I will fiddle with the graphics options manually & find just which one is the major culprit. Reflections, stands out in my mind as a strong posibility. I'll post what I find when I do.

Sutekh, or anyone else for that matter, I would still like to be able to control my cpu speed, I don't know what effect it may have on the problem here, but I'd like to play with it? :p

Thanks...

[Sutekh]

I have been testing Guild Wars, with the graphics turned right down as far as they will go in the GW options menu.

This works for me! @ 1600x1200 & fast & smooth as can be!!!

The only issue is that I have a moment or two, & that's all, after zoning, with the mouse catching up! This is not an issue.

Read: - NO LAG

The graphics are still beautiful, I'm now happy to play GW on Ubuntu!!:KS :KS :KS

I will fiddle with the graphics options manually & find just which one is the major culprit. Reflections, stands out in my mind as a strong posibility. I'll post what I find when I do.
1600x1200 and no lag sounds awesome!!

Nice work! I look foward to trying GW myself.


Sutekh, or anyone else for that matter, I would still like to be able to control my cpu speed, I don't know what effect it may have on the problem here, but I'd like to play with it. :p

Thanks...
Ok, I'm at home now on Ubunut so this should be easier.

The Freq Scaling Applet uses the powernow daemon - powernowd

sudo powernowd
will let us know if its running and the available steps


user@ubuntu:~$ sudo powernowd
powernowd: PowerNow Daemon v0.96, (c) 2003-2005 John Clemens
powernowd: Found 2 cpus: -- 1 thread (or core) per physical cpu
powernowd: cpu0: 1000Mhz - 2000Mhz (3 steps)
powernowd: cpu1: 1000Mhz - 2000Mhz (3 steps)
user@ubuntu:~$

[handy]

Thanks, :KS

I had looked for Powernowd earlier, in Synaptic, it was installed, I then ran it in the shell & got what you posted, in response.

Still I have no option in the CPU Frequencey Monitor Preferences?

This is the mystery?

[Sutekh]

Oh no, you have to left-click the chip to get the governor and frequency menus. Not right-click and get the CPU Frequency Monitor Preferences.

Sorry took so long, was running ethernet cables under my house for hours!

[handy]

Nope, I've left clicked all over the thing & I don't get anything!?

If you use the RMB menu, & go to help, it won't take long to find an image of the CPU Frequency Monitor Preferences dialogue: Well the Frequency Selector section is missing in my Preferences dialogue?

Isn't it interesting how we solve a problem & unearth more? Must be how we like it!

[Sutekh]

Nope, I've left clicked all over the thing & I don't get anything!?

If you use the RMB menu, & go to help, it won't take long to find an image of the CPU Frequency Monitor Preferences dialogue: Well the Frequency Selector section is missing in my Preferences dialogue?

Bizzare. This does sound familiar, so maybe I'll suck it in and have a search.

Just for interest, what do these commands give you?


user@ubuntu:~$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
2000000 1800000 1000000
user@ubuntu:~$


user@ubuntu:~$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_governors
userspace powersave ondemand conservative performance
user@ubuntu:~$



Isn't it interesting how we solve a problem & unearth more? Must be how we like it!
It may not always be the most efficient way though :p Still its more fun! Provided we solve it in the end.

[Sutekh]

After some searching, could you try this

user@ubuntu:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector
-rwsr-x--- 1 root admin 15752 2005-11-04 23:36 /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector
user@ubuntu:~$

It has been suggested that to get the frequency selector that permission needs to be added. I have no re-collection of doing it though.

Anyway if don't have the 's'

sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector

[handy]

You are a bloody beauty!! :KS

When I typed in the shell commands I got the same results that you did. Except for a speed variation as expected.

When I typed this one in:

sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector

Bingo! Home & hosed.

You can probably tell that it worked & I'm happy :KS

Thanks M8.

Now I can experiment with this & GW, as well as play with the graphic options in GW, & come up with the optimum GW settings for this here box of silicon.

It's all good, even if I can't improve it anymore!

[Brynster]

That's bizzaaar! :confused:

This may very well be a cedega configuration issue!

Can you post your cedega config file Brynster?

It may bring something to light if we are fortunate.

Thanks for your post...:KS

I will be delighted too. I shall do it some point over the next 48 hours...

[Sutekh]

You are a bloody beauty!! :KS

When I typed in the shell commands I got the same results that you did. Except for a speed variation as expected.

When I typed this one in:

sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector

Bingo! Home & hosed.

You can probably tell that it worked & I'm happy :KS

Thanks M8.

Now I can experiment with this & GW, as well as play with the graphic options in GW, & come up with the optimum GW settings for this here box of silicon.

It's all good, even if I can't improve it anymore!
YEAH! :mrgreen:

Well I can tell you I'm pretty happy too, now I can go to bed! Haha!

I'll let you play with GW now :KS

[handy]

Thanks, I'm off to bed too, not silly enough to start GW after midnight!

Well, not tonight anyway...:rolleyes:

[leetcharmer]

Which graphics card are you using?

I'm on nVidia, & I used Automatix to install the drivers, & it was a breeze!

libx11 is in Synaptic, mine was pre-installed by something, 'cause I didn't.

Are you running 32bit Breezy, by the way?

Im on 32bit,with 64bit CPU, no prob's at all.

I'm on AMD 64 w/ ATI graphics card. The drivers for the graphics card are installed and work nicely for native linux games, but for cedega, not so much, apparently. I have to chroot in order to run cedega.

[handy]

I take it that you are on 64bit Breezy?

I Started there, & was quite happy, after having a meltdown when I followed a how-to on updating Firefox, I thought that I'd have a look at the 32bit Breezy out of curiosity more than anything else.

I have been running 32bit ever since, with no prob's & a lot of things are much easier to do now.

When Dapper is released I'll have another look at 64bit, & review the situation, if need be I'll continue to do that every release untill 64bit is as easy as 32bit is now, for me.

By the way, I could notice no speed difference between the two versions of Breezy!

[leetcharmer]

Yeah, I was running the 64 bit Ubuntu, but decided to give 32-bit a shot now. Cedega's been giving me some problems since I switched to 32bit. Do you know how I can uninstall cedega completely and do a clean install?

Also -- do you know how to get Guild Wars running at 1280x800 resolution?

[handy]

I just had a look in the hidden .cedega directory for an uninstall script & couldn't find one!

Try the cedega manual (yeh, I know it is always a last resort ;)), if still no go, try their website, & last of all there is their forum. If of course someone here doesn't tell you anyway.

I'm sure I found a script to remove the demo, & maybe even the cvs version.

As far as your GW screen res' is concerned, if they don't support it in the Options dialogue, then I would say that you could be out of luck!

I just had a look & GW doesn't support that res'. All I can suggest is that you could try setting to Window in the GW Options dialogue & see if it will let you resize to your screen.

[leetcharmer]

I found out that to remove cedega, you need to remove it w/ synaptic, then rm -fr ~/.cedega .transgaming* .cedegarc

and, when I ran Guild Wars in windows, 1280x800 became available for my laptop, but not my desktop, hrmm.. not quite sure how to change that. It becomes much choppier when I play Guild Wars in windowed mode :/

[leetcharmer]

:/ I can't even get Guild Wars to load maps in Cedega now. Right after I pick my character, it closes.

[handy]

I've just been briefly testing with the CPU Frequency set to Performance = flat out all the time.

This has allowed me to run 1600x1200 at the default settings chosen by GW, which in Options / Graphic Options / Advanced =

Terain Quality: = High

Reflections: = Default

Texture Quality: = High

Shadow Quality: = Medium

There is a little lag after zoning, the mouse can take 5 seconds to catch up, I'll fiddle around & get it to run as smooth as when all the graphics settings are at their lowest, but with the maximum quality I can.

Then I'll put this problem to bed!

[handy]

:/ I can't even get Guild Wars to load maps in Cedega now. Right after I pick my character, it closes.

I'm sorry to here that! :(

I know b'all about Cedega, I keep a copy of my config file on another partition, which a try to remember to backup after changes.

Are you using 4.4.3? If not you could install that from the Point2Play Menu: Transgaming / Download Previous Version

You could also try the Cedega_TimeDemo, it set up & installed easier than the payed for version, & GW ran straight away, albeit slower than the 4.4.3 version.

I can't think of anything else that may help at this point. Sorry.

[leetcharmer]

sad day. the time demo didn't work either.

[handy]

I've just finished a testing session in GW, Post-Searing, with the settings mentioned a few posts back.

I've found that the lag after zoning seems to get progressively worse each time you do it.

The more times I zone the more lag I have! :(

So, even though the CPU speed does surely help, there is still atleast one more issue.

I have throttled back the graphics in advanced options to medium.

I'll see how that goes later, when I'm ready to do another few more hours of testing!

[handy]

sad day. the time demo didn't work either.

I guess that you have been searching forums here & there. You could post here, with a more specific Cedega heading, you should attract help. Could also post on Cedega's site.

You mentioned earlier that things weren't running quite right after the 32bit install. Maybe it went on crooked?

Any other issues with Ubuntu, that could give you an indication that it might be broken?

[handy]

Terain Quality: = High

Reflections: = Default

Texture Quality: = High

Shadow Quality: = Medium

There is a little lag after zoning, the mouse can take 5 seconds to catch up, I'll fiddle around & get it to run as smooth as when all the graphics settings are at their lowest, but with the maximum quality I can.


I've given GW a good run with the following settings, which gave great results, NO LAG

Terain Quality: = Medium

Reflections: = Default

Texture Quality: = Medium

Shadow Quality: = Medium

Next I'll bring Terain up to High & see if that's the one.

[leetcharmer]

I'm just gonna determine it this way, this comp has an ATi Radeon 9600, and no games work. My desktop has an nVidia GeForce 4 Ti4200, and all of them work; even faster than on windows (at 1600 x 1200) ... which really surprised me.

Conclusion: ATi sucks.

They should learn how to program drivers for Linux effectively instead of playing catch up. Furthermore, Cedega should make some sort of disclaimer: "Caution, ATi lacks the skills to play games, use nVidia"

-- the nVidia comp was even able to log onto steam and run Half-Life 2 flawlessly, whereas on the ATi ... I couldn't even login to Steam Servers. Not sure how this is graphically related, but -- it just so happens to be a factor.

[handy]

Transgaming recomend nVidia cards, somewhere on their site.

Interesting that you bought up the fact that we have problems that seem to be connected to graphics cards, though it is VERY hard to see the conection, at least for us mere mortals!:confused:

As I've stated previously in this thread I'd been running at high res' with great graphics & NO LAG, & was increasing the graphics quality & then playing to test the results, which were great.

Well, last night I played with real people instead of the 3 other CG characters in my team. & guess what, LAG when zoning! :confused:

So, next I will back the graphics settings right off again, which as previously stated is still great! :D & play with a people populated team & see what happens then?

Hopefully, no lag. If there is lag, then I'll bring the screen res' down to 1024x768 & see how we go.

There must be a lot more processing involved when a team of people are playing as opposed to 3 CG characters & 1 human. If anyone does have a good understanding about this phenomena I for one would love to have it explained to me?

[leetcharmer]

I had cedega working full speed on my desktop with the nvidia card, and what I noticed is that, strangely, Counter-Strike: Source, as well as Guild Wars actually ran an insane amount smoother in 1600x1200 (my desktop resolution) at highest bit, than they did at a lower resolution. This was not eve possible under Windows. Not sure how that works.

[handy]

Maybe the lighter OS?

Better drivers? I'd be surprised!

I've just been in GW trying to build a party of 4? G' it's hard sometimes...

So, I haven't had the chance to do a very important test re: lag, unfortunately.

It will happen...

[EDIT:] Full speed? Does that mean CPU = flat out?

[handy]

OK, I've tested with people in my team, NO LAG with the graphics set right down, & the res' at 1600x1200. :KS

I'm very happy with the performance & the quality of the graphics.

A winner in every way!:mrgreen:

[EDIT:] It only took 5 days of fun! :-)

[leetcharmer]

full speed = as smooth as the game would run in windows, or better.

also, post your final config results perhaps? :D

[handy]

This post is a summary, giving the final results of experimenting over a period of roughly 5 days, with the Guild Wars game & the commercial program Cedega which allows users to run some windoze software, including games on a variety of Linux operating system distributions.

(I'll mention here that my hardware specifications are in my signature at the bottom of the post. I'm running 32bit Breezy 5.10).

With the following settings I've given GW a good run in the two major game environments: Pre & Post Searing, both without & more importantly with human team mates.

After discovering that having human team mates created post zoning lag where there was absolutely no sign of it when using the GW supplied CG Henchmen & running at a higher graphics detail level. I was forced to turn the graphics detail down again, to the settings that follow:

With the screen resolution set to 1600x1200 (also my normal desktop res').

I slid the Visual Quality slider all the way to the left - Fastest

Which automatically sets the following in the Advanced visual settings dialogue:

Terain Quality: = Low

Reflections: = None

Texture Quality: = Medium

Shadow Quality: = Low

Wait for Vertical Sync = ON

Enable Post Processing = OFF

The other change (courtesy of Sutekh :KS ) which had a noticeable, (not as strong as the above settings), effect on my machine, was to have the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor runing in the title bar with the Frequency Selector capability enabled, (see note below) so that I could short circuit the Powernowd CPU speed control, which was controlling the CPU in an On-Demand basis.

This meant that whilst playing GW, the CPU could be running at less than it's maximum speed & then have to jump to maximum speed, on demand, this did exacerbate the dreaded lag problem on my machine.

So, this means that before I play GW I left click on the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor choose Governors / Performance from the menu that pops up. This sets the CPU to run at maximum speed untill I finish with GW, & set it back to OnDemand, easy!

With these simple changes made, Guild Wars now plays fast & smooth on Ubuntu, via Cedega 4.4.3. With a screen resolution of 1600x1200 (or less,1024x768 is still beautiful! :p ), & the graphics detail slider turned right down, Guild Wars is very pleasing on the eye & as far as I'm concerned wants for nothing! (I can't express it in stars!)



note:
If you are having trouble getting the Frequency Selector function, functioning? As I did, try entering the following in the Terminal:

sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/cpufreq-selector

It worked like a charm for me! :KS (Sutekh again! :KS )

[EDIT:] In the interest of keeping all the config information in this post, I will update it when ever I find new information, or at the sugestion of a forum participant. I will also post, in this thread mentioning the update & pointing to this (hopefully) comprehensive post:

jeffreyvergara, sugests that I mention that we need to input the size of our Graphic's Memory, & the VertexRAM size. This is easily done in the Point2Play Properties / Edit / Graphics. Set the VertexRAM to half the size of your graphics card ram. The above information is stored in the config file below, which can of course be edited directly. It can be found toward the end of the [x11drv] section of the config file.

Jeffrey also points out that on his dual boot system he has installed GW only once on a fat32 partition, & calls it from xp & Ubuntu, so for those who are running short on disk space & want to run GW from both OS's, there is a way to save some space & time, re: updating your GW world, for one reason or the other!

Before anyone asks, 'cause I would have :mrgreen: I'll tag on my Cedega 4.4.3 settings below:

***********************************************
WINE REGISTRY Version 2
;; All keys relative to \\Machine\\Software\\Wine\\Wine\\Config
;;
;; MS-DOS drives configuration
;;
;; Each section has the following format:
;; [Drive X]
;; "Path"="xxx" (Unix path for drive root)
;; "Type"="xxx" (supported types are 'floppy', 'hd', 'cdrom' and 'network')
;; "Label"="xxx" (drive label, at most 11 characters)
;; "Serial"="xxx" (serial number, 8 characters hexadecimal number)
;; "Filesystem"="xxx" (supported types are 'msdos'/'dos'/'fat', 'win95'/'vfat', 'unix')
;; This is the FS Wine is supposed to emulate on a certain
;; directory structure.
;; Recommended:
;; - "win95" for ext2fs, VFAT and FAT32
;; - "msdos" for FAT16 (ugly, upgrading to VFAT driver strongly recommended)
;; DON'T use "unix" unless you intend to port programs using Winelib !
;; "Device"="/dev/xx" (only if you want to allow raw device access)
;;
[Drive C]
"Path" = "@C_DRIVE@"
"Type" = "hd"
"Label" = "Dos Drive"
"Filesystem" = "win95"

[Drive D]
"Path" = "${HOME}"
"Type" = "hd"
"Label" = "My Home"
"Filesystem" = "win95"

[Drive E]
"Path" = "/tmp"
"Type" = "hd"
"Label" = "tmp"
"Filesystem" = "win95"

[Drive G]
"Path" = "/"
"Type" = "hd"
"Label" = "root"
"Filesystem" = "win95"

[wine]
"Windows" = "c:\\windows"
"System" = "c:\\windows\\system32\\"
"Temp" = "e:\\"
"Path" = "c:\\windows\\;c:\\windows\\system32\\"
"GraphicsDriver" = "x11drv"
; Wine doesn't pass directory symlinks to Windows programs by default.
; Enabling this may crash some programs that do recursive lookups of a whole
; subdir tree in case of a symlink pointing back to itself.
;
; Note: The WINESHELLLINK Environment variable will override this setting.
; (which is set in the winex startup script)
;"ShowDirSymlinks" = "1"
"ShellLinker" = "/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega/winex/bin/wineshelllink"
"Browser" = ""
"MozillaControl" = "Y"

;
; Browser to be used by winebrowserlink.
; Note: The WINEBROWSER Environment variable will override this setting.
;"Browser" = "/usr/bin/konqueror"
;
; Use the mozilla control as the IE control where available
;"MozillaControl" = "Y"
# <wineconf>
[DllDefaults]
"DefaultLoadOrder" = "native, builtin, so"

[DllOverrides]
"commdlg" = "builtin, native"
"comdlg32" = "builtin, native"
"oleaut32" = "builtin, native"
"ver" = "builtin, native"
"version" = "builtin, native"
"shell" = "builtin, native"
"shell32" = "builtin, native"
"shfolder" = "builtin, native"
"shlwapi" = "builtin, native"
"lzexpand" = "builtin, native"
"lz32" = "builtin, native"
"comctl32" = "builtin, native"
"commctrl" = "builtin, native"
"advapi32" = "builtin, native"
"crtdll" = "builtin, native"
"mpr" = "builtin, native"
"winspool.drv" = "builtin, native"
"d3d8" = "builtin, native"
"d3d9" = "builtin, native"
"d3drm" = "builtin, native"
"ddraw" = "builtin, native"
"dinput" = "builtin, native"
"dinput8" = "builtin, native"
"dmusic" = "builtin, native"
"dsound" = "builtin, native"
"opengl32" = "builtin, native"
"msvcrt" = "native, builtin"
"rpcrt4" = "native, builtin"
"msvideo" = "builtin, native"
"msvfw32" = "builtin, native"
"mcicda.drv" = "builtin, native"
"mciseq.drv" = "builtin, native"
"mciwave.drv" = "builtin, native"
"mciavi.drv" = "native, builtin"
"mcianim.drv" = "native, builtin"
"msacm.drv" = "builtin, native"
"msacm" = "builtin, native"
"msacm32" = "builtin, native"
"midimap.drv" = "builtin, native"
"wininet" = "builtin, native"

[Version]
; Windows version to imitate. Valid versions are: 'win20', 'win30', 'win31', 'win95', 'win98', 'winme', 'nt351', 'nt40', 'win2000', 'winxp'
"Windows" = "win98"
"Cedega" = "4.4.3"

; DOS version to imitate
;"DOS" = "6.22"
[pthreads]
"PthreadsValue" = "yes"

[transgaming]
"renice_wineserver" = "N"
"working_directory" = ""
"alsa_radio" = "Y"
"oss_radio" = "N"
"scheduler_value" = "Default"
"cmdline" = ""

[x11drv]
; Number of colors to allocate from the system palette
"AllocSystemColors" = "100"
; Number of colors to copy from the default palette
"CopyDefaultColors" = "0"
; Use a private color map
"PrivateColorMap" = "N"
; Favor correctness over speed in some graphics operations
"PerfectGraphics" = "N"
; Color depth to use on multi-depth screens
;;"ScreenDepth" = "16"
; Name of X11 display to use
;;"Display" = ":0.0"
; Allow the window manager to manage created windows
"Managed" = "Y"
; Use a desktop window of the given size
"Desktop" = "No"
; Use XFree86 DGA extension if present
; (make sure /dev/mem is accessible by you !)
"UseDGA" = "N"
; Use XShm extension if present
"UseXShm" = "Y"
; Enable DirectX mouse grab
"DXGrab" = "Y"
; Use XVidMode extension if present
"UseXVidMode" = "Y"
; Use XRandR extension if present
"UseXRandR" = "Y"
; Create the desktop window with a double-buffered visual
; (useful to play OpenGL games)
"DesktopDoubleBuffered" = "Y"
; Code page used for captions in managed mode
; 0 means default ANSI code page (CP_ACP == 0)
"TextCP" = "0"
; Use this if you have more than one port for video on your setup
; (Wine uses for now the first 'input image' it finds).
;; "XVideoPort" = "43"
; Use this to make your X server execute all commands
; sequentially rather than buffering commands. Will make
; everything really SLOW but can be nice for debugging.
;; "Synchronous" = "Y"
; Enable the FPS count on the TransGaming HUD (also activates the HUD)
"ShowFPS" = "N"
; Enable memory statistics on the TransGaming HUD (must have ShowFPS activated)
"ShowMem" = "N"
; How much Video RAM does your card have?
"VideoRam" = "256"
; How much AGP memory should be used for vertex data (about 1/2 your AGP aperature size)
"AGPVertexRam" = "128"
; Use NV_VAR (enabled by default)
"NV_VAR" = "Y"
; Use ARB_VBO (enabled by default, NV_VAR takes precendence)
"ARB_VBO" = "Y"

[d3dgl]
"AnisotropicTextureFiltering" = "N"
"VertexShaders" = "Y"
; type of vertex shaders to use (Hardware/Software/Auto)
; hardware will use whatever the opengl drivers make available
; software will use winex software emulation (will be slow!)
; (has not been implemented yet!)
;; "VertexShaderMode" = "Auto"
"PixelShaders" = "Y"
; Which version of pixel shaders to attempt to use, if available
;;"PixelShadersLevel" = "1.1"
"ClipSpaceFix" = "Y"
"DynamicVBO" = "N"
"IndexVBO" = "N"
"FBO" = "Y"
"PixelShadersLevel" = "1.3"
"FixedProgram" = "Yes"
"FragmentOffset" = "Auto"
"RectangleTextures" = "Yes"

; enable software vertex blend weight support (Yes/No/Auto)
; provide software blending fallback if hardware support not available
; (has not been implemented yet!)
;; "SoftwareVertexBlending" = "Auto"
; (dev-only) Maximum number of texture stages that WineX should attempt to use (1-8)
;; "MaxTextureStages" = "8"
; (dev-only) Identify polygons under the mouse cursor
;; "InterceptMode" = "N"
; (dev-only) apply fragment translation in vertex program (No/Tex/Auto/Pos)
;;"FragmentOffset" = "Auto"
; use the fixed function over vertex shader pipeline (Yes/No/Auto)
;;"FixedProgram" = "Auto"
; (dev-only) Provide non power of two texture support using rectangle textures (Yes/No/Auto)
;;"RectangleTextures" = "Auto"
[opengl]
; Report a truncated list of OpenGL extensions to the application
"FixedGLExtensionBuffer" = "N"
; list of additions (+) or deletions (-) to the list of extensions
; reported when FixedGLExtensionBuffer is enabled. Note that extensions
; cannot be enabled if they are not supported by your video card/drivers
"GLExtensionBuffer" = ""

[dinput]
; dead zone for joystick input from 0 to 10000. 1000 is 10% of range.
"DefaultDeadZone" = "1000"

;; Configuration of the function of joystick axes
;; The joystick name and axis functions can be determined with jstest.

;; The available axis types are:
;; "none", "X", "Y", "Z", "RX", "RY", "RZ",
;; "slider", "hat", "POV", and "ball"
;; "hat" and "POV" are synonymous. Hats use two axes.
[fonts]
;Read documentation/fonts before adding aliases
"Resolution" = "96"
"Default" = "-adobe-times-"
; Use new improved fonts (uses FreeType and XRender libraries) at user request.
; Defaults to "Y".
"FreeType" = "Y"

[FontPatterns]
"Pattern0" = "-adobe-times*"
"Pattern1" = "-adobe-helvetica*"
"Pattern2" = "-adobe-courier*"
"Pattern3" = "-misc-fixed*"

;"0"="/path/to/extra/fonts"
[FontAlias]
;; Add font aliases here. On the left put the name of the windows font family
;; that you want to fake, on the right put the a similar font family that you
;; have installed. These will override the fontconfig and the WineX builtin fallbacks,
;; but may look better (if you choose them correctly).
;; Alias' may refer to other alias' that have been defined above them.
;; These alias' are the first that WineX loads.
;;
;; Serif Fonts
;"Times New Roman"="Times"
"MS Serif" = "Times New Roman"
;;
;; Sans Serif Fonts
;"Arial"="Helvetica"
"Helv" = "Arial"
"MS Sans Serif" = "Arial"
"System" = "Arial"
"Tahoma" = "Arial"

;;
;; Mono Space Fonts
;"Courier New"="Courier"
;"FixedSys"="Courier"
;; Attempt to make memory allocation more windows like.
;; Not for use with all applications. Best used in app default section.
; "MemoryLayoutOverride" = "0x10000000"
[serialports]
"Com1" = "/dev/ttyS0"
"Com2" = "/dev/ttyS1"
"Com3" = "/dev/ttyS2"
"Com4" = "/dev/modem"

[parallelports]
"Lpt1" = "/dev/lp0"

[spooler]
"LPT1:" = "|lpr"
"LPT2:" = "|gs -sDEVICE=bj200 -sOutputFile=/tmp/fred -q -"
"LPT3:" = "/dev/lp3"

;"read" = "0x779,0x379,0x280-0x2a0"
; "write" = "0x779,0x379,0x280-0x2a0"
[spy]
"Exclude" = "WM_SIZE;WM_TIMER;"

[registry]
;These are all booleans. Y/y/T/t/1 are true, N/n/F/f/0 are false.
;Defaults are read all, write to Home
; Global registries (stored in /etc)
"LoadGlobalRegistryFiles" = "n"
; Home registries (stored in ~user/.wine/)
"LoadHomeRegistryFiles" = "Y"
; Load Windows registries from the Windows directory
"LoadWindowsRegistryFiles" = "n"
; TRY to write all changes to home registries
"WritetoHomeRegistryFiles" = "Y"
; Registry periodic save timeout in seconds
; "PeriodicSave" = "600"
; Save only modified keys
"SaveOnlyUpdatedKeys" = "Y"

[Tweak.Layout]
;; supported styles are 'Win31'(default), 'Win95', 'Win98'
"WineLook" = "Win98"

[Console]
"Drivers" = "xterm"
;"Drivers" = "tty"
"XtermProg" = "konsole"

;"InitialRows" = "25"
;"InitialColumns" = "80"
;"TerminalType" = "nxterm"
[Clipboard]
"ClearAllSelections" = "0"
"PersistentSelection" = "1"

; List of all directories directly contain .AFM files
;"1" = "/usr/share/ghostscript/fonts"
;"2" = "/usr/share/a2ps/afm"
;"3" = "/usr/share/enscript"
;"4" = "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
[Wineserver]
"SHMWineserver" = "Y"
"Scheduler" = "Yes"

[WinMM]
"Drivers" = "winealsa.drv"
"WaveMapper" = "msacm.drv"
"MidiMapper" = "midimap.drv"

[wineoss]
"UseMMap" = "N"
"FullDuplex" = "N"
"dsp0" = "/dev/dsp"
"mixer0" = "/dev/mixer"

;; Specify a mapping for what digital audio devices to use
;"dsp0" = "/dev/dsp0"
;"mixer0" = "/dev/mixer0"
[winealsa]
"UseMMap" = "Y"
;"pcm0" = "hw"
;"ctl0" = "hw"
"FullDuplex" = "Y"
"pcm0" = "hw"
"ctl0" = "hw"

;; App default settings
;; Medal Of Honor settings
[AppDefaults\\mohaa.exe\\memory]
"MemoryLayoutOverride" = "0x10000000"

[AppDefaults\\mohaa.exe\\opengl]
"FixedGLExtensionBuffer" = "Y"

[AppDefaults\\mohaademo.exe\\memory]
"MemoryLayoutOverride" = "0x10000000"

[AppDefaults\\mohaademo.exe\\opengl]
"FixedGLExtensionBuffer" = "Y"

[AppDefaults\\moh_spearhead.exe\\memory]
"MemoryLayoutOverride" = "0x10000000"

[AppDefaults\\moh_spearhead.exe\\opengl]
"FixedGLExtensionBuffer" = "Y"

[AppDefaults\\moh_spearhead.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

[AppDefaults\\moh_spearhead_demo.exe\\memory]
"MemoryLayoutOverride" = "0x10000000"

[AppDefaults\\moh_spearhead_demo.exe\\opengl]

"FixedGLExtensionBuffer" = "Y"

[AppDefaults\\moh_breakthrough.exe\\opengl]
"FixedGLExtensionBuffer" = "Y"

[AppDefaults\\moh_breakthrough.exe\\version]
"windows" = "win2k"

;; SimCity 4 settings
[AppDefaults\\SimCity 4.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

[AppDefaults\\SimCity 4.exe\\transgaming]
"cmdline" = "-d:software"

[AppDefaults\\SimCity 4.exe\\Wineserver]
"SHMWineserver" = "N"

;; Civ 3
[AppDefaults\\Civilization3.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

[AppDefaults\\Civilization3x.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

[AppDefaults\\civ3conquests.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

;; Call of Duty
[AppDefaults\\CoDSP.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

[AppDefaults\\CoDMP.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

;; City of Heroes
[AppDefaults\\CityOfHeroes.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

[AppDefaults\\CityOfHeroes.exe\\cursor]
"CursorAlphaAlwaysOn" = "Y"

[AppDefaults\\CohUpdater.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

[AppDefaults\\CohUpdater.exe\\cursor]
"CursorAlphaAlwaysOn" = "Y"

[AppDefaults\\CohUpdater.EU.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

[AppDefaults\\CohUpdater.EU.exe\\cursor]
"CursorAlphaAlwaysOn" = "Y"

;; Command & Conquer: Generals
[AppDefaults\\Generals.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

;; Painkiller
[AppDefaults\\Painkiller.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

;; EverQuest
[AppDefaults\\eqgame.exe\\d3dgl]
"ForceMaxVertexBlendMatrices" = "2"

[AppDefaults\\testeqgame.exe\\d3dgl]
"ForceMaxVertexBlendMatrices" = "2"

;; Half-life 2
[AppDefaults\\hl2.exe\\d3dgl]
"ForceMaxVertexBlendMatrices" = "2"

;; Need for Speed Underground
[AppDefaults\\Speed.exe\\d3dgl]
"PixelShaders" = "N"

;; Doom 3
[AppDefaults\\Doom3.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

;; Far Cry
[AppDefaults\\FarCry.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

[AppDefaults\\FarCry.exe\\d3dgl]
"PretendGeforceTwoForFixedFunction" = "Y"

;; Sid Meier's Pirates!
[AppDefaults\\Pirates\!.exe\\d3dgl]
"ForceMaxTextureBlendStages" = "8"

;; Star Wars Galaies
[AppDefaults\\LaunchPad.exe\\transgaming]
"cmdline" = "/game:starwars"

;; Diablo II
[AppDefaults\\Diablo II.exe\\Version]
"Windows" = "win2k"

;; Guild Wars
[AppDefaults\\Gw.exe\\d3dgl]
"FixedProgram" = "N"

# </wineconf>
***********************************************

I don't use the code boxes, (if anyone wants to know) due to running at high screen resolution, with font sizes turned up, I very often can't read or have difficulty trying to read the enclosed data!

So, if it is a problem for you to see, copy it onto your computer & view it how you will!

[handy]

I found out that to remove cedega, you need to remove it w/ synaptic, then rm -fr ~/.cedega .transgaming* .cedegarc

and, when I ran Guild Wars in windows, 1280x800 became available for my laptop, but not my desktop, hrmm.. not quite sure how to change that. It becomes much choppier when I play Guild Wars in windowed mode :/

Did your 1280x800 screen problem sort out?

Did you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to fix it?

Are you using the CPU, Frequency Selector Menu: Governors / Performance?
& if so what's your results?

It's hard to quantify, even so, my estimate is that I'm atleast 10% better off with the cpu set to run continually at top speed, instead of fluctuating from time to time.

[jeffreyvergara.NET]

just don't forget to edit this.
; How much Video RAM does your card have?
"VideoRam" = "256"
; How much AGP memory should be used for vertex data (about 1/2 your AGP aperature size)
"AGPVertexRam" = "128"

my GW is now playable in Ubuntu! ^_^ thanks

[jeffreyvergara.NET]

i still have Window$ XP dual boot but my primary OS is now Ubuntu. I installed GW under Window$ XP (Fat32) so I can also play it under Linux without installing it in Window$ and Linux. ^^

it worked fine for me. ^^

[handy]

Yes, I put those settings in at the Point2Play setup stage, & they do of course show up in the config file that I posted, but I should have mentioned it in the summary I guess.

I will edit the summary, (Page 5 of this thread post # 49) because it is nice to have all the info' in one spot, which is what I was trying to do with that post.

So thanks for bringing it to my attention.

It's interesting how, when 6 months down the track for some reason a reinstall is desired (windoze = required!) & you have forgotten some of the things done to set up your system!

[jeffreyvergara.NET]

and GW dont need to be installed again and again then patch. you can just copy the whole Guild Wars folder and run Gw.exe

[handy]

I had cedega working full speed on my desktop with the nvidia card, and what I noticed is that, strangely, Counter-Strike: Source, as well as Guild Wars actually ran an insane amount smoother in 1600x1200 (my desktop resolution) at highest bit, than they did at a lower resolution. This was not eve possible under Windows. Not sure how that works.

This has to be the graphics card!?

[bwilsor]

I'd like to thank all of you! GW was the only thing holding me back from Windows. Now I can finish backing up my music and vids and delete it forever. Thank you! =D>


Thanks again! This thread has eliminated my GW lag. I only had to change a couple things.

[handy]

I'd like to thank all of you! GW was the only thing holding me back from Windows. Now I can finish backing up my music and vids and delete it forever. Thank you! =D>


Thanks again! This thread has eliminated my GW lag. I only had to change a couple things.


Thanks! :KS

I am currently killing my windoze business, after over 10 years of windoze, starting at ver 3.11!!!

Windoze has been good to me, I have made a living!

Windoze has been bad to me... I can hardly stand working on another windoze machine in my life - (at the moment).

There is little love & much of the other in this relationship now!

So, I understand your joy at being able to be free of windoze. I have less than a month to endure I believe, & that thought should get me through...

[handy]

Well, back to the drawing board, after months of GW under Ubuntu bliss!

I did a fresh install of dapper i386 yesterday. No real problems, I've just been going through the steps to rebuild my system. UT2k4 ran great from previous install - Alacarte Menu Editor, won't recognise it's icon though!?

I've downloaded Cedega, done the AI recomended edit (http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=63), & installed Cedega, & all previouse versions. I've configured Cedega the same as before, but when GW starts up it tells me that my graphics card is not supported!!??

Asking do I want to continue, I select OK, to get the dreaded black screen with mouse pointer stuck in the top left corner & the GW login serenade playing very much in the background.

A Dapper bug? An nVidia (closed) driver bug? A new Cedega Point2Play bug?

Or, as is quite possible, have I missed something obviouse??

Feedback is very welcome!?

Thanks! :KS

[Artificial Intelligence]

Is it the default Nvidia driver or the latest? I've both working great with GW and Dapper.

[handy]

Is it the default Nvidia driver or the latest? I've both working great with GW and Dapper.

That's good to hear AI :D

The nVidia (closed source) driver came in via the latest Automatix (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177646), which was downloaded installed & run, about 30 hours ago.

[Artificial Intelligence]

You could try with the latest to see - I rewrote tseliot howto into a quick howto the latest Nvidia driver, you might check it out. It also linked to his thread here on the board, which have troubleshooting if you run into troubles ;) - http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=63. Tell me if the howto works. I only tested on my machine.

[handy]

You could try with the latest to see - I rewrote tseliot howto into a quick howto the latest Nvidia driver, you might check it out. It also linked to his thread here on the board, which have troubleshooting if you run into troubles ;) - http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=63. Tell me if the howto works. I only tested on my machine.

Thanks for the input AI, I gave it a go but I still have the exact same problem?

I reinstalled GW through cedega, just for good measure...

I'm still told that my graphics card is unsuported?? The same one I've been using in Breezy for over 4 months.

UT2k4 is running with everything turned on the highest, @ 1600x1200 even faster than in Breezy??

[handy]

Looks like I'll just have to put my Breezy drive in the draw & boot from that when I want to run GW...

A bit of a waste of a perfectly good 80 gig' drive though! I have plans to make that my Edgy music work station drive. :KS

[Artificial Intelligence]

Could be a Cedega bug somehow.

[handy]

Could be a Cedega bug somehow.

I agree AI, I thought I might re-install Cedega, & stick with the previous hardware gui. There was an option in the install to use the new one or not?

I'll choose No next time, that may do it?

I'll let you know...

[handy]

If I run GW in a window, I can get to the login screen, but keyboard & mouse input is NOT accepted, & the options menu button, is not to be seen??

[handy]

OK, I just uninstalled Cedega, via Synaptic.

Then I reinstalled my saved copy of the edited to work with dapper cedega_5.1.deb (http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=63), to find all my settings from the just deleted Cedega still current!

I ran GW from the Point2Play menu & it worked!!

The only problem I have now (that I'm aware of) is that my characters are wearing the default armor!! :confused: I thought all that info' is stored on the GW servers.

I still have a copy of my Breezy install, does anyone know which file(s) to copy over to get my characters back as they were? They had VERY expensive armor & weapons.

I cancelled out of the game as soon as I was logged in to the "choose which character you want to play" screen, for fear of loosing the oportunity to salvage them.

Better safe than sorry! :KS

[handy]

I copied the GuildWars.ds file across, which is the required file, & guess what? I got past loggin, to the choose character screen, my characters had their correct armor on, but that's all she wrote... Dead GW.

So, I uninstalled GW, & am installing again now.

As soon as Cedega had created the directory structure to include GW, for the new install, I copied the GuildWars.ds file in.

With any luck I tricked it, & it will think that the file was allways there... :rolleyes:

Fingers crossed!?

No, unsuported graphics card & back to the black screen with mouse stuck in top left corner?

Now I must uninstall cedega & reinstall...

[handy]

The unsuported graphics card thing looks like a bug, it could be one of mine!

I have tried various installs & uninstalls.

I be thinking that if I had of gone on with a character that it would have been upgraded from a GW server to the right armor etc.

I'd say that I stuffed up by not continuing.

So, when I do get GW to work again, I'll confirm.

[Artificial Intelligence]

Don't you have a previous version of Cedega somewhere?

[handy]

Don't you have a previous version of Cedega somewhere?

I have a 5.0.1.deb.

Can I use your how-to & edit it the same way & install?

I can't get the current version of Cedega to install & work properly, I have tried multiple times, & a variety of ways. ](*,) ]

[handy]

I did the AI edit to the cedega_5.0.1.deb.

It went ok, did the dpkg i bit ok, then ran Cedega from the menu & then when I got to the online update bit it froze?

Everything about the Dapper upgrade I like, except this. One of my main uses of the computer lately has been playing GW, now it's become trying to get GW to run!!

[handy]

Previous version 5.0.1 of Cedega is actually worse than the current 5.1 version!!

There must be a bug for some machines in combination with Cedega & Dapper.

After multiple uninstalls including manualy deleting folders that are still left (as well as not deleting them) & re-installs I can not get Cedega to work on a machine that when running Breezy, ran GW near faultlessly!

There are files that get stored in /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega I haven't been deleting them manualy? I have only been deleting /home/handy/.cedega/ & /home/handy/.transgaming_global/

So, I'll try again.

I have wasted far too many hours on this, I'd rather be wasting Chaar!

[handy]

I manualy deleted everything from the machine that synaptic left behind that was part of the cedega install.

Then I downloaded a new cedega_5.1_i386.deb, for editing as per the AI how-to. Installed cedega & it tells me that I have to download via the transgaming menu in the point2play gui.

When I try to use anything on that menu cedega fails to respond!

That's it for me, someone else can solve this problem, I have gone as far as I can.

[handy]

I have put the following on the Transgaming support requests:

Hi, I have recently installed the Ubuntu Dapper 6.06 release.
It is running beautifully except for weird problems with cedega!

I have edited the .deb file as per these instructions:

http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=63

After installation, I get a Guild Wars error:

"Guild Wars has detected that your System Video Card is an unsupported hardware device. Please be certain... blah blah"

I am then given the opportunity to quit or continue.

If I continue I get the dreaded black screen with the mouse pointer stuck in the top left corner.

I have uninstalled, cleaning all cedega files from my drive including the ones left after using synaptic. Re-installed, tried running at different resolutions on the desktop, even got to the login screen which was crippled, got past the loggin screen to the choose character's one, which was crippled!!

I have been running Cedega 4.4.3 & Guild Wars on the same hardware for over 4 months, using Ubuntu Breezy 5.10.

I have tried multiple cedega versions, with no success.

I have re-downloaded the .deb couple of times, & re-edited, re-installed. Uninstalled again & again... Now I can't connect throught the Transgaming menu to update or anything!!!

Otherwise my machine is running without a problem.

Any help would be appreciated, I have spent easily 10 hours on this one, can go no further without assistance?

Thankyou

handy

We'll see if anything comes of it there, from past experience, I'm not hopeful! :rolleyes:

[handy]

Well, there is allways a positive side to things right?

I've rediscovered the joys of UT2k4... :KS

A little rusty after a 4+ month absence though... :rolleyes:

[handy]

At least I can push my Breezy drive back into the boot-up draw of my computer & play GW, whilst I await the solution to the problem.

It would seem that I am alone or amongst the vast minority when it comes to this problem?? (Vast minority!! :KS )

Which is of course both good & bad!

I have 4 months apparently, before Edgy is to be released, so I can spare the HDD untill then.

I expect that I will be able to play GW on Dapper via Cedega, a long time before Edgy is released though! :KS

[MicroChris]

There needs to be a solution to this.. I recently switched back to Dapper from XP, and if I can't play my Guild Wars I'll be heading right back to XP, unfortunately.

I got GW working under Cedega 5.1.1 but the quality is turned all the way down and I still experience terrible lag. Ugh.. On XP I was running it at 1280x1024 on max settings running a 9600XT, and it was absolutely flawless. I guess you can't have the best of both worlds :(

-Chris

[handy]

There needs to be a solution to this.. I recently switched back to Dapper from XP, and if I can't play my Guild Wars I'll be heading right back to XP, unfortunately.

I got GW working under Cedega 5.1.1 but the quality is turned all the way down and I still experience terrible lag. Ugh.. On XP I was running it at 1280x1024 on max settings running a 9600XT, and it was absolutely flawless. I guess you can't have the best of both worlds :(

-Chris


I have drive drawers in my computer, so it's easy to put another OS in & boot from it.

Which is what I do if I want to play GW, I boot up a Breezy drive!

At least I don't have to boot xp!

I do agree with you though, I'd like not to have to have a drive tied up like this just for GW.

There will eventually be a solution, but I'm not holding my breath...

[t.z0n3]

That's unfortunate. The only problem I have with all this is that when I look around for a good Linux MMO/CO RPG, there isn't one to be found that isn't RUNESCAPE like, and good lord, I'm NOT playing THAT again. It was tedious to the extreme, even for a normal MMO player like myself...

I don't recommend trying it or anything. [-X

So, I guess I still have a use for my XP installation. I'm trying to switch over to Linux completely, and LOOK what happens. Most annoying. :-x

Oh well. Did you see on their FAQ? "We are considering those options (expanding onto Linux)." And they'll be 'considering' them for as long as Microsoft bribes them in the background, eh? :rolleyes: :D

[handy]

That's unfortunate. The only problem I have with all this is that when I look around for a good Linux MMO/CO RPG, there isn't one to be found that isn't RUNESCAPE like, and good lord, I'm NOT playing THAT again. It was tedious to the extreme, even for a normal MMO player like myself...

I don't recommend trying it or anything. [-X

So, I guess I still have a use for my XP installation. I'm trying to switch over to Linux completely, and LOOK what happens. Most annoying. :-x

Oh well. Did you see on their FAQ? "We are considering those options (expanding onto Linux)." And they'll be 'considering' them for as long as Microsoft bribes them in the background, eh? :rolleyes: :D

As you would have read my GW experiences with Breezy were great!

I have a problem with GW & Dapper. I believe that I am in a small minority of users who do.

If you haven't tried GW with the Cedega_Time_Demo (http://linux.softpedia.com/get/GAMES-ENTERTAINMENT/Simulation/Cedega-9843.shtml), then I recommend that you do. You may very well find that it works on your rig, without problem. Just turn the graphics detail down to lowest in GW's options menu to remove post zoning lag. It still looks fantastic!

[justin whitaker]

There needs to be a solution to this.. I recently switched back to Dapper from XP, and if I can't play my Guild Wars I'll be heading right back to XP, unfortunately.

I got GW working under Cedega 5.1.1 but the quality is turned all the way down and I still experience terrible lag. Ugh.. On XP I was running it at 1280x1024 on max settings running a 9600XT, and it was absolutely flawless. I guess you can't have the best of both worlds :(

-Chris

Check 5.2. The Cedega forums has reports of luck with both GW and Factions. In fact, I was thinking of getting GW because, let's face it, you can get a little burnt out on WoW. :p

[handy]

Check 5.2. The Cedega forums has reports of luck with both GW and Factions. In fact, I was thinking of getting GW because, let's face it, you can get a little burnt out on WoW. :p

Please let us know how you go with 5.2?

Your feedback will be greatly appreciated! :KS

[Hg80]

Hi just got GW installed with Cedega 5.2, and 6.06 64bit
I have a Nvidia 7800GT and im really impressed with the outcome, the game runs no different to Windows only i wish i could get it to run full screen.
If you use a virtual desktop in Cedega u seem to get a shading error in the jade sea, but turning this feature of fixes that bug

[handy]

Hi just got GW installed with Cedega 5.2, and 6.06 64bit
I have a Nvidia 7800GT and im really impressed with the outcome, the game runs no different to Windows only i wish i could get it to run full screen.
If you use a virtual desktop in Cedega u seem to get a shading error in the jade sea, but turning this feature of fixes that bug

I'm happy to hear It's going well for you.

Do you run the GW Options / Visual Quality slider all the way to the left - Fastest ??

If so, then reflections are turned off at that setting, which stands out by far the worst of the whole game, when you are at the choose character screen at the start. Is that the Jade sea that you are talking about?

Can you please go into more detail about the virtual desktop bit?

& why won't it run full screen?

[handy]

My Breezy drive, which I only use for GW, got seg faults, & I had to do a reinstall. :(

I had to re-subscribe to Transgaming to be able to install Cedega again. :(

I set up a separate /home partition that I can share when I boot up with either the Dapper or the Breezy drive.

I installed Cedega 5.2. I reinstalled GW on Dapper first, with my fingers crossed. No good, still same error as before, GW error: unsupported graphics card.

I've just finished the Breezy install, setup Cedega 5.2, ran GW, same error as Dapper now in Breezy. :( I am VERY unhappy about this, as you may imagine.

I have spent another 3 months subscription to Cedega, & a lot of time, to still not be able to play GW.

I'm wondering if my problem is due to a later nVidia driver somehow causing a problem for my 6800GT & Cedega & GW?

I use Automatix to install the nVidia driver. & it is a later one than the one that was installed in my previous Breezy install that allowed GW to work like a charm.

I do believe that this problem is solvable. I also beleive it could take quite some time...

Do the nVidia drivers uninstall cleanly, does anyone know?

Any input much appreciated?

Thanks!

[madbuda]

I have been looking thru the forums decinding if I am going to switch to ubuntu from RHEL. Mainly due to my recent problem with GW. I am experiancing the same problem as Handy. I however did not have this problem in FC4.

I am going to give it a shot with Ubuntu regardless... maybeI can offer some assitance.

When I was using FC4 I had version 5.2.1 and was able to play GW just fine.

I will update later this week on my experiance when I get ubuntu installed.

[ekuliak]

My Breezy drive, which I only use for GW, got seg faults, & I had to do a reinstall. :(

I had to re-subscribe to Transgaming to be able to install Cedega again. :(

I set up a separate /home partition that I can share when I boot up with either the Dapper or the Breezy drive.

I installed Cedega 5.2. I reinstalled GW on Dapper first, with my fingers crossed. No good, still same error as before, GW error: unsupported graphics card.

I've just finished the Breezy install, setup Cedega 5.2, ran GW, same error as Dapper now in Breezy. :( I am VERY unhappy about this, as you may imagine.

I have spent another 3 months subscription to Cedega, & a lot of time, to still not be able to play GW.

I'm wondering if my problem is due to a later nVidia driver somehow causing a problem for my 6800GT & Cedega & GW?

I use Automatix to install the nVidia driver. & it is a later one than the one that was installed in my previous Breezy install that allowed GW to work like a charm.

I do believe that this problem is solvable. I also beleive it could take quite some time...

Do the nVidia drivers uninstall cleanly, does anyone know?

Any input much appreciated?

Thanks!

I had a similar problem (or perhaps the same problem) when I did the trial version of Cedega. What I did to fix it was manually put the amount of Video RAM and Vertex Data in the profile for the game, which for me was:

Video RAM (MB): 256
AGP Vertex Data (MB): 92

I'm using a GeForce 6800 GS (AGP), by the way

[handy]

Thanks for your reply(s).

I have tried manually & using the default settings for video RAM & vertex Data...

I end up with either the mouse arrow stuck in the top left of a black screen, which is by the way a much lower res' than I ask for.

Or I get the ubuntu desktop at that MUCH lower res', & I have to do a ctrl, alt, backspace to recover??

I have tried both windowed & full screen at different resolutions, some slight variation, but still useless!

[Jeff_From_Hell]

ok, i am a n00b myself, and would like to know how i install guild wars into ubuntu the right way.

[handy]

ok, i am a n00b myself, and would like to know how i install guild wars into ubuntu the right way.

Did you read this thread from the start?

You need to run commercial Cedega, no one has got it to run on Wine or CedegaCVS yet unfortunately. Wine will get there for sure, but don't hold your breath!

Cedega_Time_Demo here. (http://linux.softpedia.com/get/GAMES-ENTERTAINMENT/Simulation/Cedega-9843.shtml)

Try the demo, its easy to install & its free. If you are happy with the results, then go here (http://www.transgaming.com/) & buy a subscription to Cedega, minimun is $15.50 US, for 3 months, then $5/month. If you cancel your sub' you can continue to use the versions of Cedega that you have downloaded. BUT you will probably have to resubscribe everytime you want to do a new install of Linux! :(

Transgaming (Cedega's creator's), from my experience, offer misserable support, & their forum's are virtually dead, & have a similar aroma. Not a nice place to visit at all.

Transgaming's web site makes things sound a lot better than they really are, be aware of that too.

On the other hand, many of us, including myself once, have had many hours of most enjoyable gaming, using games built for windoze, played on linux, via Cedega. We could not have done it without them.

I wish I could do it again... :rolleyes:

[madbuda]

So, I finaly finished setting up my box, loaded latest and greatest nvidia driver (using Automatix).

Installed Cedega 5.2.2

Installed bejeweled to see if it works, and it did...

Installed Guild Wars :( Same error as Handy again (coming from RedHat land)

I tried a bunch of diffrent versions of cedega... no luck. Finally I went back to 5.2.2 and set it to open in a window 1024x768 (all my little lcd will display) and to my surprise it worked... couldn't see everything but it worked. Adjusted to 800x600 figuring it would scale :( nope. Went back to default (full screen) and I am playing GW :) Armor is correct, zoning is ok, no LAG.... haven't ventured out with others yet.

SPECS:
Ubuntu 6.0.6 Draper i386
Asus A8N SLi
AMD64 3800 Dual Core
2 x 6800GT SLi
1GB RAM (platnium something??)

Handy,
You may want to try in setting desktop to 1024x768 in cedega, after you login set it back to normal and restart game.

I did move the slider all the way to fastest

Let me know how it goes

[handy]

So, I finaly finished setting up my box, loaded latest and greatest nvidia driver (using Automatix).

Installed Cedega 5.2.2

Installed bejeweled to see if it works, and it did...

Installed Guild Wars :( Same error as Handy again (coming from RedHat land)

I tried a bunch of diffrent versions of cedega... no luck. Finally I went back to 5.2.2 and set it to open in a window 1024x768 (all my little lcd will display) and to my surprise it worked... couldn't see everything but it worked. Adjusted to 800x600 figuring it would scale :( nope. Went back to default (full screen) and I am playing GW :) Armor is correct, zoning is ok, no LAG.... haven't ventured out with others yet.

SPECS:
Ubuntu 6.0.6 Draper i386
Asus A8N SLi
AMD64 3800 Dual Core
2 x 6800GT SLi
1GB RAM (platnium something??)

Handy,
You may want to try in setting desktop to 1024x768 in cedega, after you login set it back to normal and restart game.

I did move the slider all the way to fastest

Let me know how it goes

I have done all of the above before at least 5 times!! (Edit: more like 25 times!!)

Cedega is a flakey as setting up a windoze network = you do all the right things & it does not work, so you undo it & redo it again, & again until it works, after that it keeps on working!!!

I'll try some more, & let you know!

I'm happy you got it working, by the way! :KS

[handy]

OK!

In Dapper, using Cedega 5.2.2, I set GW to play at 1024x768, windowed.

I started & got an 800x600 game display, in the 1024x768 window, on my 1600x1200 desktop!

I could access the GW Options, but they did not function properly. They did not crash the game or Ubuntu this time.

I cancelled out of Options, tried to log into the game, being able to activate a flashing cursor in each field, but not being able to input text.

I cancelled out of GW.

Closed & reopened Cedega, changed the game window size to 800x600, & restarted the game.

This time I could access the GW Options, & they worked. I could also log into the game & play!!! This is VERY good news. :KS :KS :KS

So, with some trepidation, I logged out of the game, set the screen res' in Cedega to not be windowed. Opened GW again, setting it to 1600x1200, logged in, & went around all the locations in the prophecies map & opened them so I could download them all again, (this took a while, but had to be done because this is a fresh install of GW. If I didn't do & was playing with a team, they could wait upt 5 minutes for me to zone!!). Logged out, shut down the machine, booted up, went back into GW, no problems.

I have it set for maximum speed in GW Options, & reflections are turned off, but I still have reflections? I will play with a team & see if this is going to cause me post zoning lag or not? A small problem, considering I could not play via Breezy or Dapper up untill less than 2 hours ago!!

At last I can delete Breezy, & use the drive for something else.

From my experience with this problem, it is just like setting up a windoze LAN can be sometimes: You do everything right, & it doesn't work, so you have to keep undoing & redoing it until it works, once it works once, it is usually quite reliable for a long time!!

I hope this info' helps someone.

Many thanks go to Madbuda, you prodded me to try some more! :KS

[madbuda]

I did notice that a few times my mousse pointer was not there.. I found if I used my right mouse button to look around some my mouse would reappear.

Regarding reflections, I have the same issue, has not caused any slow downs as of yet.

I will test some more tonight... hopefully everything will be ok.

Glad I could give you that extra push :)

[handy]

I did notice that a few times my mousse pointer was not there.. I found if I used my right mouse button to look around some my mouse would reappear.

Regarding reflections, I have the same issue, has not caused any slow downs as of yet.

I will test some more tonight... hopefully everything will be ok.

Glad I could give you that extra push :)

A couple of rmb clicks usually brings the pointer back.

I haven't noticed yet if reflections are on in the game or only at the choose character loggin, or not.

I've found that you rarely notice if reflections are off, once you get logged in anyway!!

I just went & did Althea's by myself, 'cause it's fun, so hard when your character is not strong yet!

I had no probs with lag. I find the time you will get lag, is when you are in a team full of people, not hench. & it allways happens when you change zones.

So, that one will come out soon enough.

I'm sure there will be a way to turn off reflections, it must be caused by Cedega you would think!?

Anyway, let's know how you go when teamed up with people, I'm interested for sure.

I'm too tired to pursue it any further tonight.

Have fun! :KS

[DRAGONPOWER]

Hey guys, im an absolute nooby and i have no idea how to install cedega! i have 5.2.7 version but i don't know what to do with the package.

I have a .cpkg file and a md5sums file, what/how do i run/install them?

Any help appreciated greatly! :KS

[justin whitaker]

Hey guys, im an absolute nooby and i have no idea how to install cedega! i have 5.2.7 version but i don't know what to do with the package.

I have a .cpkg file and a md5sums file, what/how do i run/install them?

Any help appreciated greatly! :KS

The .cpkg file is a downloadable update. Run cedega, and there is an option in the menus to update from local package.

[DRAGONPOWER]

ahh man , i just realized i had to first install cedega + gui b4 i could update with that cpkg :(

and now console is saying "u need to install xlibs as cedega depends on xlibs to work)

dear, this is hard for noobys like me ](*,)

10 minutes later ....

Call it xlibs workaround

HEY MAN i found a grrreat website for Dapper Drake users! http://tom.digitalelite.com/2006_06_09_08_32_00.html

hope this helps!

[handy]

Last night we had a storm here which caused an electrical power interuption = blackout! Whilst I was playing GW. The blackout caused corruption of the GW files on my machine, so when I tried to log on today, it downloaded the core game onto my machine again, which put me back at the problems I had earlier in this thread which I solved by fiddling around with the screen/window sizes as per Post 94 above.

It looks like it's just what some machines have to go through to get GW running via Cedega on Dapper. I didn't have to go through this when I tried Edgy.

Really the biggest drag once you know how to get GW functioning again is all the downloading you have to do every time you change locations on the map! :(

[Chinkostu]

has anyone got it working in Edgy yet?

edit: my previous problems with cedega (which have forced me to do a run of the mill reformat and reinstall, but instead of dapper im trying edgy to see if theres any difference. however, my modem is unsupported, so its a dead end until my router arrives.anyway) were that clicking install/play etc etc, didnt actually do anything. at all. it just sits there. even if i navigate to the folder and gksudo the timedemo, it doesnt actually play any of the games. odd.

[handy]

Yes GW works fine on Edgy, I have done it as have many others.

I hope you have a your 3D setup for your graphics card too?

[Chinkostu]

i got it installed in dapper (boredom downgrade and lack of eth. modem forced it) and it runs! just very, very, very badly! i have a 128mb AGP Nvidia FX5200, and in windows it runs ok, playable. but in cedega windowed its virtually 1fps, and fullscreen brings up that ugly cedega overlay, and then its just about nearing windows speeds. but the overlay drives me mad!

[handy]

i got it installed in dapper (boredom downgrade and lack of eth. modem forced it) and it runs! just very, very, very badly! i have a 128mb AGP Nvidia FX5200, and in windows it runs ok, playable. but in cedega windowed its virtually 1fps, and fullscreen brings up that ugly cedega overlay, and then its just about nearing windows speeds. but the overlay drives me mad!

Hi, sorry to hear that you are having problems, have you read all of this thread?

There is a great deal of information re; getting cedega setup for GW?

[dna88]

Hi all...
i want to play with my ubuntu 6.10 my preferite game: "guild wars"
I have installed cedega 5.2 and i perfectly install guild wars by CDs .. i set :

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7741/schermataas0.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7306/schermata1rd1.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2899/schermata2pg2.png (http://imageshack.us)


i press play and:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8356/schermata3th7.png (http://imageshack.us)

WTF? how i can set for my pc?

AMD 64bit 3200+
Video Card: Nvidia Geforce fx 5900 xt
1 GB Ram DDr :mad:

[dna88]

Ok now my guild wars is running... :popcorn:

but it is running slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! very much slow! how i can play this game with high details and with high fps?

[handy]

Ok now my guild wars is running... :popcorn:

but it is running slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! very much slow! how i can play this game with high details and with high fps?

I expect that you fixed your problem dna88.

I am posting the following incase someone else reads this, sorry I missed it when you posted, I would have answered.

The speed is largely determined by your Guild Wars Options Menu settings. If you skim all the way through the thread you will find out about the settings, or just go to Post 49 where you can get a great start.

[Edit:] Of course Beryl & the like running is bound to cause big problems!

[justin whitaker]

Just wanted to add my experiences here:

I am running Nightfall on Cedega 6.0. The game installed without an issue, and after some experimenting, I found that the game looks best windowed to 800x600 on my hardware-no noticeable deviation from XP's rendering of the game. I still have the cursor issue when zoning in, but other than that, I am very pleased.

[Erbue]

I though I'd share my experience.

I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 with Cedega 6.0. My CPU is AMD 64 X2 4200+ and graphic card is nVidia GeForce 7800 GTX with drivers downloaded trough the Restricted Drivers Manager and Automatix (for the tools).

Here are some more specs:

cpu: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
cpu_ghz: 1.0
memory: 2026
videocard_manufacturer: NVIDIA Corporation
videocard_type: GeForce 7800 GTX/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
videocard_ram: 256
agp_aperture_size: 508
videocard_driver_version: 2.1.0 NVIDIA 97.55
soundcard: saa7133[0] at 0xfddff000 irq 1
soundcard_driver: ALSA Version 1.0.13
machine_bitness: 32
kernel: 2.6.20-15-generic
x_version: Xorg Version 7.2.0
distro: Debian 4.0
GUI version: 6.0


I tried installing Guild Wars Prophecies via the CD. I mounted it with Cedega, and Cedega could find it when I pressed "Detect Game Disc", but nothing happened when I pressed "Continue". So eventually I installed Guild Wars with the installer downloaded from the Guild Wars website (GWSETUP.EXE) and that worked.

Now my big problem is that I can't play the game. When I start the game I get the screen that the game is connecting to ArenaNet. Then I get the following warning:

Guild Wars ahd detected that your System's Video Card is an unsupported hardware device. Please be certaib that your Video Card meets the minimum system requirements to play Guild Wars as intended.

http://www.guildwars.com/support/unsupported-hardware.html

Do you want to continue?

Yes No

Now. When I pressed yes, my screen resolution became unbeliuevebaly low and the game didn't start. I had to reboot to get to normal screen resolution. After some reading on the internet I tried to play the game windowed. And that worked better, since now my screen resolution didn't get low. This is my current state on the quest to play Guild Wars on Linux with Cedega 6.0. I still get the warning described before. If i press "Yes" the game just shuts down. Without a notice or anything. If I press "No" I get one of those dialogs to send the error message to Guild Wars HQ and the game crashes. I have to stop the game with Cedega to get out of it.

Guild Wars was one of the reasons for buying Cedega. I really don't know what to do anymore.

[handy]

I though I'd share my experience.

I'm running Ubuntu 7.04 with Cedega 6.0. My CPU is AMD 64 X2 4200+ and graphic card is nVidia GeForce 7800 GTX with drivers downloaded trough the Restricted Drivers Manager and Automatix (for the tools).

Here are some more specs:


I tried installing Guild Wars Prophecies via the CD. I mounted it with Cedega, and Cedega could find it when I pressed "Detect Game Disc", but nothing happened when I pressed "Continue". So eventually I installed Guild Wars with the installer downloaded from the Guild Wars website (GWSETUP.EXE) and that worked.

Now my big problem is that I can't play the game. When I start the game I get the screen that the game is connecting to ArenaNet. Then I get the following warning:



Now. When I pressed yes, my screen resolution became unbeliuevebaly low and the game didn't start. I had to reboot to get to normal screen resolution. After some reading on the internet I tried to play the game windowed. And that worked better, since now my screen resolution didn't get low. This is my current state on the quest to play Guild Wars on Linux with Cedega 6.0. I still get the warning described before. If i press "Yes" the game just shuts down. Without a notice or anything. If I press "No" I get one of those dialogs to send the error message to Guild Wars HQ and the game crashes. I have to stop the game with Cedega to get out of it.

Guild Wars was one of the reasons for buying Cedega. I really don't know what to do anymore.

This is a fairly common problem it seems, I've experienced more than once on initial installation.

Have a look at Post 94 of this thread, (previous page). You have to fiddle about a bit to get it to work, then once you have got it full screen at the resolution you like it will be reliable from then on. GW works great on Cedega, & soon Wine will be as good.

I reckon you need to apply a little more perseverance & you'll be right.

[Erbue]

After fideling and trying and trying I have now managed to get Guild Wars running in Fullscreen. Even with the default settings in Cedega. Suddenly any setting will work.

My problem now is that Guild Wars terminates all of the sudden giving me this message:
Guild Wars detected a possible hardware malfunction. This may be due to a faulty or overheating processor or memory chip. The application will now be terminate.

And my browser is redirected to this site: http://www.guildwars.com/support/en-hardwarefailure.php

Anybody found a solution to this? And what would be the ideal settings for running Guild Wars in Cedega?


Thanks

[handy]

After fideling and trying and trying I have now managed to get Guild Wars running in Fullscreen. Even with the default settings in Cedega. Suddenly any setting will work.

My problem now is that Guild Wars terminates all of the sudden giving me this message:


And my browser is redirected to this site: http://www.guildwars.com/support/en-hardwarefailure.php

Anybody found a solution to this? And what would be the ideal settings for running Guild Wars in Cedega?


Thanks

Cedega has it's own settings these days to suit many games.

Having Cedega running, select GW, then choose Properties button, you will see a heading Advanced Settings Overrides with a field below it that has a drop down menu including all the games that Transgaming have included automatic default settings for. If Guild Wars is not chosen, then select it.

I am using Cedega 5.2.3, so if you are on version 6.** it might be slightly different, but I am sure that the ability will still remain. I expect that Cedega has already chosen the correct settings.

It is possible that your computer has a slow cpu fan? Dust both slows fans down, & also clogs up the heatsink fins to a degree (no pun intended). You may want to take a look & see if there is a build up of dust on the CPU heatsink, also the graphic cards collect dust in the same way.

I blow the dust out carefuly, with a compressor, if you do the same, be sure not to let the compressed air spin the fan(s), keep a finger on it so as to not let the fan spin too fast, which can damage the fan.

Possibly there is a bug in GW, but I have not heard of this problem on the forums, though it could have got past me... :)

If you play other 3D graphic intensive games on the same computer with no problems, then I would contact Transgaming giving them all the details.

[Edit:] I just looked at the Guild Wars web page that you linked too, it has good advice; your machine specifications say that it should not be very old? Perhaps it is running hot with that CPU & graphics card? I can't see it so I'm shooting in the dark... It's possible that you may need another case fan to move the air through the case quicker?

[Jarn]

You might want to try running Guild Wars in Wine if Cedega isn't working. I'm not sure how the performance compares, but I know that it's high enough on my about mid-end system. Everything works right out of the box.

[handy]

You might want to try running Guild Wars in Wine if Cedega isn't working. I'm not sure how the performance compares, but I know that it's high enough on my about mid-end system. Everything works right out of the box.

Jarn, is the sound sorted now?

[Xaimas]

For £3 a month, Cedga sounds very good, i might purchase it, seeing as i can play most games without having to switch to windoze, thanks :D

[amlucent23]

Handy, I have followed your advice in post #94 and I am able to run Guild Wars on Feisty now. However the highest FPS I can reach is 3-4. Considering the same Video card ran 60 FPS under windows I know I have to have something wrong. Here are a couple links to cedega support forums describing my exact problems in more detail.

http://cedega.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=47464#47464

http://www.transgaming.com/showthread.php?msg=68188&forum=1262&thread=68188

I cant seem to get anywhere with Transgaming's support team.

I have tried checking and unchecking nearly every option in cedega.. I found I have the best results (3-4 FPS) with VBO unchecked, no pixel shaders, no ansotropic, Win98 mode. I have also attempted installing engine 5.2.10 and running GW under it. There was no noticeable difference.

I would greatly appreciate any advise you could give me.

@Xaimas - Dont expect a lot of support from transgaming for your subscription.

[Erbue]

Cedega has it's own settings these days to suit many games.

Having Cedega running, select GW, then choose Properties button, you will see a heading Advanced Settings Overrides with a field below it that has a drop down menu including all the games that Transgaming have included automatic default settings for. If Guild Wars is not chosen, then select it.

I am using Cedega 5.2.3, so if you are on version 6.** it might be slightly different, but I am sure that the ability will still remain. I expect that Cedega has already chosen the correct settings.

It is possible that your computer has a slow cpu fan? Dust both slows fans down, & also clogs up the heatsink fins to a degree (no pun intended). You may want to take a look & see if there is a build up of dust on the CPU heatsink, also the graphic cards collect dust in the same way.

I blow the dust out carefuly, with a compressor, if you do the same, be sure not to let the compressed air spin the fan(s), keep a finger on it so as to not let the fan spin too fast, which can damage the fan.

Possibly there is a bug in GW, but I have not heard of this problem on the forums, though it could have got past me... :)

If you play other 3D graphic intensive games on the same computer with no problems, then I would contact Transgaming giving them all the details.

[Edit:] I just looked at the Guild Wars web page that you linked too, it has good advice; your machine specifications say that it should not be very old? Perhaps it is running hot with that CPU & graphics card? I can't see it so I'm shooting in the dark... It's possible that you may need another case fan to move the air through the case quicker?
I don't really think the case is overheating since I didn't have this problem before. I will clean my computer for dust anyway, though.

I have started a forum thread on the Cedega forums.

[hobieone]

i'm running guild wars in fiesty with cedega 6.0 with no anistrophioc filtering. win 2000 mode using dx 9. and outside from the missing mouse pointer for 3 seconds after zoning it is runnning just as fast as it does under windows for me. maybe try 6.0?

another tip is if your using compiz, beryl or the built in efffects in fiesty turn them off before starting cedega! those will create issue with cedega causing slow performance and graphical issues due to the 3d desktop effects and cedega appears to fight over your resources on your graphics card. and disabling those effect while using cedega will fix slow performance.i have also notice this issue with cedega and desktop effects when running under other engines in cedega. this also affects wine in the same way but not quite as bad.

[handy]

Handy, I have followed your advice in post #94 and I am able to run Guild Wars on Feisty now. However the highest FPS I can reach is 3-4. Considering the same Video card ran 60 FPS under windows I know I have to have something wrong. Here are a couple links to cedega support forums describing my exact problems in more detail.

http://cedega.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=47464#47464

http://www.transgaming.com/showthread.php?msg=68188&forum=1262&thread=68188

I cant seem to get anywhere with Transgaming's support team.

I have tried checking and unchecking nearly every option in cedega.. I found I have the best results (3-4 FPS) with VBO unchecked, no pixel shaders, no ansotropic, Win98 mode. I have also attempted installing engine 5.2.10 and running GW under it. There was no noticeable difference.

I would greatly appreciate any advise you could give me.

@Xaimas - Dont expect a lot of support from transgaming for your subscription.

So how do you go with hobieone's post, re, Beryl & such?

I don't really think the case is overheating since I didn't have this problem before. I will clean my computer for dust anyway, though.

I have started a forum thread on the Cedega forums.

Please post back your solution when you find it, you may help others in the future.

i'm running guild wars in fiesty with cedega 6.0 with no anistrophioc filtering. win 2000 mode using dx 9. and outside from the missing mouse pointer for 3 seconds after zoning it is runnning just as fast as it does under windows for me. maybe try 6.0?

another tip is if your using compiz, beryl or the built in efffects in fiesty turn them off before starting cedega! those will create issue with cedega causing slow performance and graphical issues due to the 3d desktop effects and cedega appears to fight over your resources on your graphics card. and disabling those effect while using cedega will fix slow performance.i have also notice this issue with cedega and desktop effects when running under other engines in cedega. this also affects wine in the same way but not quite as bad.

Try 2 or 3 right mouse button clicks to get your mouse functioning again. Though I know it really isn't a problem worth worrying about!

[amlucent23]

i'm running guild wars in fiesty with cedega 6.0 with no anistrophioc filtering. win 2000 mode using dx 9. and outside from the missing mouse pointer for 3 seconds after zoning it is runnning just as fast as it does under windows for me. maybe try 6.0?

another tip is if your using compiz, beryl or the built in efffects in fiesty turn them off before starting cedega! those will create issue with cedega causing slow performance and graphical issues due to the 3d desktop effects and cedega appears to fight over your resources on your graphics card. and disabling those effect while using cedega will fix slow performance.i have also notice this issue with cedega and desktop effects when running under other engines in cedega. this also affects wine in the same way but not quite as bad.

I have tried running under win2000 mode, I will try again tonight to report my findings. No XGL/Compiz/Beryl on my desktop so that cant be it. Also I started with cedega 6.0 but I have attempted to use 5.2.10 as well. Ill try to specify for cedega to play it in dx9 mode tonight, (i dont remember seeing that option). Also I am really starting to think it is my video card (ATI x1600 Pro). Ill never buy a non nvidia again.

[Erbue]

Please post back your solution when you find it, you may help others in the future.

Will do :) I am going to try without Compiz to see what happenes.

i'm running guild wars in fiesty with cedega 6.0 with no anistrophioc filtering. win 2000 mode using dx 9. and outside from the missing mouse pointer for 3 seconds after zoning it is runnning just as fast as it does under windows for me. maybe try 6.0?

What do you mean you're using DX9? Do you have to install it? Is there an own Linux version. Do I have it already? Please share. I am very confised with it gets to DX. Thanks!

EDIT: Why is it so that I always land on top of the next page? xD

[Jarn]

Jarn, is the sound sorted now?Ah, nevermind, not everything works right out of the box. I forgot about the sound because I never have it turned on anyway, even in Windows. My bad. :(

[handy]

Ah, nevermind, not everything works right out of the box. I forgot about the sound because I never have it turned on anyway, even in Windows. My bad. :(

No bad in you Jarn, far from it, your GW Wine thread is a wonder, you sure put a LOT of time into that one. (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283122)

Thanks! :KS

[Erbue]

Another update from me. I had to reinstall Ubuntu and got the same problem again. What I did to get it to "work" was to login to windows, copy my GW files from Windows and paste them in my Cedega GW folder, overwriting all other files there. Then starting the Cedega GW under windows (double clicking the .exe file from the cedega folder). Of course GW now starts without any problems. I but the settings to be windowed and worst quality. Then I quit with the new settings.

I entered ubuntu and started GW trough Cedega in full screen. Of course it was windowed since GW was windowed by its own settings, and not Cedegas. I set the settings to full screen and wanted graphic in both GW and Cedega and GW now starts. I can even log inn and choose a character and go into the city.

BUT. My current problem. I can happily play GW inside the city I currently am with my charcter, but if I try to exit the city, or travel, I get the same error as before:

Guild Wars detected a possible hardware malfunction. This may be due to a faulty or overheating processor or memory chip. The application will now be terminate.

And I am again redirected to this site: http://www.guildwars.com/support/en-hardwarefailure.php

So I am trapped in Kamadan :P

I will update again if I find something...

EDIT: I GOT IT TO WORK! I haven't tested it yet too much, but I can now leave the city (haven't tried traveling yet, but trough a portal). The one little detail I had to make was to change in Cedega from WinXP to Win2k. That did the trick. I should also metion, what I had forgotten to tell you, is that I have turned off PowerNowd. Don't know if that makes a difference or not, but it's turned off. Either than that these are now my Cedega settings:

General
Winver: Win2k
Engine Version: 6.0
Use Pthreads: Default
Desktop: No
XVidMode
DXGrab
Managed
Mozilla Controller
Scheduler: Default

Graphics
Video Ram (MB): Default
AGP Vertex Data (MB): Default
Pixel Shader: 2.0
Vertex Shader: 2.0
Fixed Program: Auto
Fragment Offsets: Auto
Non Power of Two Textures: Auto
Clip Space Fix
Anisotropic Filtering
Framebuffer Objects
Float Textures
GL Shading Language
Occlusion Queries
NV_Var Extension
ARB_VBO Extenstion
Dynamic VBO
Index VBO

So with that I did in the first part of this thread, plus these settings, now makes my GW work. Try it out, if you want. Only downside is that you need Windows and GW installed on Windows to complete. I will have to test my GW some more though, and I will update if I find some more bugs.. or not. :)

Note: When the loading scree comes, the screen does become black, but it comes back in a few seconds. Patience is gold. The cursor also disappers, but I just press space until it appears (Don't really know if the space clicking does anything but it's fun :P)