Beagle 0.2.0 released! [Archive]

matid

January 21st, 2006, 02:12 PM

Beagle 0.2.0 (http://www.beagle-project.org) was released yesterday!
Among a lot of new features and bug fixes there is new user interface, named beagle-search: http://beagle-project.org/images/5/54/Beagle-search.png

Here is the changelog: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/dashboard-hackers/2006-January/msg00051.html

We're waiting to see it in Dapper!

Lovechild

January 21st, 2006, 02:31 PM

mmmm sexy

MadMan2k

January 21st, 2006, 02:40 PM

I'd prefer Tracker & Nautilus :D

dexae

January 21st, 2006, 02:56 PM

I'd prefer Tracker & Nautilus :D

what it is tracker? url or something?

MadMan2k

January 21st, 2006, 02:58 PM

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fTracker

dexae

January 21st, 2006, 03:03 PM

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fTracker
thanks :)

bites

January 21st, 2006, 04:08 PM

The new UI does like nice :) It's good to see that beagle is becoming more usable.. ('though indexed searching is still perpaps a bit of a buzz word).

Anthem

January 21st, 2006, 04:13 PM

Prefer Nautilus? Are you a masochist?

bag

January 21st, 2006, 04:55 PM

Anybody know if tracker will be part of gnome in the near future?

@Anthem: I'm not a masochist! And yes i also prefer nautilus :)

bbb

Lovechild

January 21st, 2006, 05:33 PM

Anybody know if tracker will be part of gnome in the near future?

@Anthem: I'm not a masochist! And yes i also prefer nautilus :)

bbb

Tracker will never be part of Nautilus, however nautilus will be able to use Tracker as it's search backend shortly Jamie seems very set on getting support in there, I'd say GNOME 2.16 might have support for it.

However Tracker does not as far as I can see, enable me to seach my IM logs and mail which is about 99% of my beagle searches.

What I'm interested in however is Jamie' work on supporting true vFolders in nautilus, this would solve a whole heap of problems, one of them being how do we ensure default directories to put stuff like photos and videos in and keep the system completely i18n safe. vFolders would solve this by abstraction.

MadMan2k

January 21st, 2006, 05:56 PM

Tracker will never be part of Nautilus, however nautilus will be able to use Tracker as it's search backend shortly Jamie seems very set on getting support in there, I'd say GNOME 2.16 might have support for it.
the current veriso is said to work fine with nautilus - but I failed to copile it last time I did a CVS checkout and the ubuntu devs refused it since it had not a stable release yet.
I'll try it again next week...

However Tracker does not as far as I can see, enable me to seach my IM logs and mail which is about 99% of my beagle searches.
why dont you use the thuunderbird/ gaim search directly? I think those are more optimized...

Lovechild

January 21st, 2006, 06:21 PM

why dont you use the thuunderbird/ gaim search directly? I think those are more optimized...

uniform search interface and for searching in evolution (which is rather cumbersome to be honest) beagle is an order of a magnitude faster when it comes to finding the correct information - I get in the range of 300 valid mails a day, I have several years archived (yes this means evo. crawls like I just tied Michael Moore to it).

Gaim' search suffers from some brain damage, if I search for a term it sends me to the conversation, not the place in the conversation where it occures. I have some conversations that span days without closing the chat window - scrolling that just isn't fun.

A beagle type application makes all this a breezy, in addition to ensuring that I have all my contacts at a finger tip. But honestly what really does it for me is the fact that searching is unified in one common application so I have to learn one way of searching rather than working around idiotic behavior in 6 applications to find my stuff.

Lovechild

January 21st, 2006, 06:27 PM

the current veriso is said to work fine with nautilus - but I failed to copile it last time I did a CVS checkout and the ubuntu devs refused it since it had not a stable release yet.
I'll try it again next week...

For GNOME 2.14 nautilus will not expose the search API as the maintainer isn't happy with it, Tracker will work if nautilus is compiled against it, and the API doesn't change. It will NEVER become a part of nautilus, it will at some point (probably 2.16) be able to take the job as the search backend via the pluggable backend API.

The question was CLEARLY would it be part of nautilus and that will happen once they prove that the moon is made of cheese.

Let's just get an actual release from Tracker before we start hyping it, so far all we have to validate the wild performance claims is McCrackens word. I'm still betting that Beagle will provide a more full search interface but for Nautilus tracker might do well - however this is very limited scope, we can do so many interesting things with beagle that tracker just isn't designed for.

emrys

January 22nd, 2006, 04:13 PM

Do you know if 0.2.0 will make it into Dapper?

napsy

January 22nd, 2006, 05:31 PM

Hmm ... Tried to compile 0.2.0 but got the following configure error:
checking X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h usability... no
checking X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h presence... no
checking for X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h... no
configure: error: Unable to find scrnsaver.h. You probably need to install XFree86 development packages

What do I have to install?

matid

January 22nd, 2006, 06:00 PM

xserver-xorg-dev x11proto-scrnsaver-dev libx11-dev
These are my guess.

macleod199

January 23rd, 2006, 08:05 PM

Do you know if 0.2.0 will make it into Dapper?

I hope so. The last couple of 0.1.x releases crash on startup for me. No interest in fixing it on Malone.

ben.s

January 23rd, 2006, 09:17 PM

why dont you use the thuunderbird/ gaim search directly? I think those are more optimized...

The whole point of unified indexed search is that you can find something you weren't expecting somewhere you weren't expecting it. Say for example I'm working on a long project and I've been using email to discuss it with my client, but one day I just happened to ask a dev friend of mine about it over chat and he gives me a great idea how to calculate the widget cost.

Three months later, I remember that I got an idea about widget cost calculations at some point -- if I don't remember that one IM conversation, I'm likely to just search -- futilely -- through my email, whereas in a unified search I'd get the email, the IM chat, even the source code and design docs that mention widget calculation.

Unified indexed search is all about the easy synthesis of information. Having to perform the same search multiple times in multiple places makes you concentrate on the job of searching more than the acquisition of the information you seek.

scpike

January 24th, 2006, 07:54 PM

when i try to compile beagle it gives me an error asking for sqlite2, i have sqlite version 2.8.17 installed, any ideas?

RAOF

January 24th, 2006, 09:25 PM

when i try to compile beagle it gives me an error asking for sqlite2, i have sqlite version 2.8.17 installed, any ideas?
Do you have libsqlite-dev installed? That might be what it's looking for.

scpike

January 24th, 2006, 11:26 PM

Do you have libsqlite-dev installed? That might be what it's looking for.

thanks a lot that did the trick, now its just asking for "gmime-sharp version 2.1.19" but the one in the repos is 2.1.16, does anyone know where to get this?

RAOF

January 24th, 2006, 11:35 PM

thanks a lot that did the trick, now its just asking for "gmime-sharp version 2.1.19" but the one in the repos is 2.1.16, does anyone know where to get this?
Heh. The beagle package will accept anything less than 2.1.18, and it's 2.1.18-1 in the repos :(

subjectdenied

January 25th, 2006, 06:11 AM

try the beagle 0.2.0 packages from debian sid, it worked for me unless you don't install the beagle-phython package

Wes24

January 25th, 2006, 07:46 AM

Can you explain how you did it, since I still have a dependency problem if I use the debian sid packages:

beagle depends on libgmime2.1-cil (>= 2.1.19); however:
Version of libgmime2.1-cil on system is 2.1.18-1.

subjectdenied

January 25th, 2006, 08:38 AM

sorry, i forgot that i had to install the libgmime and libgmime-cil in the latest version that can be found in sid too

compiling the official release didn't work for me, and the cvs-version throw an error when using the autogen script

fyi you have to start beagle-search --icon for getting the icon in the notification area of the gnome-panel

bites

January 25th, 2006, 09:49 AM

Debian's got this before Ubuntu? I always believed it'd be the other way round.. :) I'm going to wait for it to hit the official Ubuntu repositories though.

nehalem

January 25th, 2006, 11:37 AM

Here's my questions:

Will we have beagle + nautilus support in dapper? I know Novell contracted that out to Immendio and they completed it. So will there be a seperate plugin package that allows it?

risbac

February 21st, 2006, 08:59 AM

Beagle 0.2.1 is in the repo.
Didn't try yet, but it's installing fine. New icon in the accessories, called "Find". Same old option in the preferences to manage the daemon.

MichaëlVD

February 21st, 2006, 10:03 AM

"Find"? It says "Search" on my computer!

And it seems to work fine (after I changed the URL of my repositories so that they didn't point to the Belgian mirror but to the original server)

mattisking

February 21st, 2006, 11:13 AM

I've been trying to get it to work... but so far I get nothing. Using the command line tools:

$beagle-status

Every 5.0s: beagle-info --status Tue Feb 21 10:09:28 2006
Scheduler:
Count: 0
Status: Waiting on empty queue

Pending Tasks:
Scheduler queue is empty.

$ beagle-index-info
Index information:
Name: Google
Count: -1
Indexing: False

risbac

February 21st, 2006, 11:17 AM

"Find"? It says "Search" on my computer!

Geeee. I need some coffee.

nuzzy

February 21st, 2006, 07:37 PM

Forgive for the Windows app comparison, but is Beagle similar to what Google Desktop does?

mattisking

February 21st, 2006, 08:16 PM

Forgive for the Windows app comparison, but is Beagle similar to what Google Desktop does?

Yeah, that's a pretty good comparison. Beagle can index so many things and as plugins are developed that list keeps growing.

chanders

February 22nd, 2006, 04:15 PM

I installed the latest beagle but it does not index my Evolution mails? Anyone knows why? Or does this version not do that yet?

zafar

February 22nd, 2006, 05:36 PM

I installed the latest beagle but it does not index my Evolution mails? Anyone knows why? Or does this version not do that yet?

If you installed it from the repositories.. the beagle-backend-evolution package hasn't been updated to 2.1 so that may be the reason why.

As for me, beagle is crashing within a few seconds of starting.

thetorpedodog

February 22nd, 2006, 10:46 PM

Beagle 0.2.1 is in the repo.
Didn't try yet, but it's installing fine. New icon in the accessories, called "Find". Same old option in the preferences to manage the daemon.It is? I still get 0.1.1-ubuntu1 when I look for Beagle in the Universe…