How I killed my machine...

[andrewsawyer]

Well, I have recently replaced my laptop with a desktop, so I figured I had nothing to loose by dist-upgrading from Breezy to Dapper on my laptop - Acer Travelmate.

I had only really been using it for ssh into my new computer or the media server or surfing the net once I was in bed and didn't want to get up.

So there I was, changed all the links in sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade.

It took about an hour to download the 580 odd Mb that was needed, and the only thing that it couldn't find (from memory) was xchat-gnome. However because it couldn't find it, it wouldn't install the other apps. So I tried with -f fix-missing (I think that's what it was anyway) and it seemed to go ok. Once it was done, eveything just crashed - xorg, gedit, the lot. It just went to a blank, black screen with a flashing cursor in the top right. It seemed pretty much locked up, but I can power down by just pressing the power button for a second. The hdd flashed, and it turned off.

When I rebooted, the first thing I noticed was that it was still running kernel 2.6.12. I loaded up into Ubuntu (but the xserver crashed). I tried doing another dist-upgrade. It told me I had missing dependancies. It then tried to uninstall my kernel, giving me a warning that I was trying to remove the running kernel. I said 'no' to this. So I messed around for a bit longer, trying to fix it. When all seemed to be ok, I rebooted again.

Not good. I'm now left with a boot error - it can't find the kernel, and I just get the very basic grub configuration editor. I had to leave it at that as my girlfriend was nagging me wanting to go out.

So, if you do want to help out with testing, can I humbly suggest that you do it from a clean system rather than doing a dist-upgrade from a pre-used system with progs installed etc.

I'll let you know when I get it working (although I'll probably just end up reinstalling from the Breezy CD and dist-upgrading from a clean system).

Andy

[iguanaphobic]

A bit of advice??

Start from the latest Dapper daily. It'll save you a lot of time and trouble.

[andrewsawyer]

Where do I get that from? I checked the iso downloads, but only found Breezy.

[andrewsawyer]

don't worry - found it: http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/

[drizek]

dont use the daily cd, use the flight3 one.

http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/dapper/flight-3/

[SlowJet]

Where do I get that from? I checked the iso downloads, but only found Breezy.


It is rather a hidden path from here to any offical Ubuntu dapper stuff.

OK, the last build is here - http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/Lists/
Sometiomes they do one or none or several a day.
It is good for checking what happened to the whole of the distro;
Did it all compile? What were the changes from last time (keep a list of the "all" from last time and commpare to the next)
What failed? It is anything I need before I update, upgrade, install?
If yes, wait some more.

The daily install images are here - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/
The lastest is the last one usually but the current is created before the dated same - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current

Sometimes they make a repeat as in dd.1 , dd.2

Sometimes they don't make one because stuff happens.

Look in the .list for what is on the CD. Look down at the report.html for what happened. If that's all zreos for your arch, then you can download and install.

The CD for Jan 19th is good but needs updates to work.
Tonight, the 21st might be ok?
I'm hoping for the 23rd as a good one to get past these Gnome and X problems.

SJ

[SlowJet]

dont use the daily cd, use the flight3 one.

http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/dapper/flight-3/


flight 3 is a dialy CD too, they just picked one that would install ok and be usable.
If your are going to apply updates may as well pick your own flight 3.x and move on.

SJ

[drizek]

ive heard of people having breakage the last couple days, which is why i recommened to use an older cd.

[SlowJet]

ive heard of people having breakage the last couple days, which is why i recommened to use an older cd.


If you use flight 3 and update you will probably have breakage, so six of one , half dozen of another, but if you study the lists you can get a good install and by pass a lot of duplicate download time and possible breakage.
It is NOT a big mistery, the source is complied, the cd is created, it installs or it doesn't -- the updates work or they don't.

SJ

[andrewsawyer]

Just downloaded the http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current version, and now done you guys have written a whole load more! Thank you. At least now I know that if this download doesn't work, I can find it elsewhere.

I'll let you know how it goes, but probably tomorrow as I'm at a friends at the mo - just wget'd over ssh to my home pc, so it's waiting there for me when I get home. Took an hour so not too bad if it doesn't work.

[andrewsawyer]

Well, all seems to be going well. It's installng at the mo - downloading 842 files (suprising as this is todays build!). So far I have had one problem in that while installing the base syetm it told me that it couldn't install the kernel linux-386. I went back to the menu, and tried again, installing on an unclean target. It then go to the same spot and gave me the choice to install linux-386, linux-image-386, or the 2.6.15-3-386 kernel - I chose the latter.

I must say, I did like the new startup, with the graphical install. Will this be followed right through from start to finish for the final build, or will it be kept as is?

Anyway, I'll keep you posted.

[andrewsawyer]

Installed!

Well, for some reason my xorg.conf was empty, so I had to configure it, and then make some major alterations - Synaptics Touchpad didn't configure, and it stuck in a setting for a mouse although I don't have one attached. It also didn't set up any display resolutions, even after it had been configured.

I've also found that running startx from the prompt gives me an error that I'm not permitted, so I'm running in sudo at the mo - not a good thing I know - I'll reboot in a minute and see if it will boot in like that.

Other than that, could someone please confirm that my menus are correct? In Applications, I have Accessibility that contains Character Map only, Accessories looks ok, but where has File Manager gone? And under Sound and Video I have only Sound Juicer CD Extractor.

Anyway, I'll do a reboot and see how things go.

Andy

[kahping]

Sound & Video menu should also have Serpentine, Sound Recorder, etc...

[SlowJet]

Buy looking at this file - on daily CD list for 20.1

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20060120.1/report.html

you wil see that the programs kahping mentions were not installable during the build. (It's the same for 21. That's why I said, I'm waiting for the 23rd. :)

So I guess you wait until they show up in synatic (new in repo) or (NOT installed).

But you are about 100 updates pass flight 3. ;)

SJ

[andrewsawyer]

Cool,

So I guess I just keep updating now until it is released yes? Should I have to dist-upgrade again?

I've not managed to have much of a play with it so far, however I do like the new option to switch user profiles, along with the power-down options. The new update bubble lokos a little more funky too.

I don't like that file manager seems to have disappeared, although I guess I can always put it back myself. I also don't have a System Tools menu off Applications, nore do I have the Add Applications icon. That said, it is Alpha/Beta (which one by the way?), so I guess it stil lhas a fair way to go.

I'l ljust keep the bug reports coming in as and when I find them. :-)