XFCE Rocks!

[mstlyevil]

I was just blown away at how fast XFCE is compared to both Gnome and KDE. I just installed it on top of Ubuntu and logged in. Everything just flies. I am blown away by how much faster it is for applications and programs to open up. Firefox opens almost as soon as I click the button. Gimp loaded in less than a quarter of the time it took for it open under the other DE's. I think I may just have a new favorite DE.

[erikpiper]

XFCE is SLOW! Dont use a DE! Use Openbox or Windowmaker! Even faster!

LOL

[xequence]

I dont remember it to be that fast... Well, the accual DE is, but when you load programs, its slower.

[Iandefor]

I was just blown away at how fast XFCE is compared to both Gnome and KDE. I just installed it on top of Ubuntu and logged in. Everything just flies. I am blown away by how much faster it is for applications and programs to open up. Firefox opens almost as soon as I click the button. Gimp loaded in less than a quarter of the time it took for it open under the other DE's. I think I may just have a new favorite DE. I like XFCE for it's light footstep, but I don't like the way it looks. The handles on the panel/iconbox are really annoying after a while, I've found. As a DE, it's really awesome in that not one piece is tied to another piece in any way beyond a unified interface.

[23meg]

The handles on the panel/iconbox are really annoying after a while, I've found.
Agreed; just the fact that I can't put anything to the corners of the screen because of those handles has made XFCE unusable for me. They've finally agreed to make them optional though; I've been told that in SVN there's now an option to hide them.

XFCE is nice but it still has quite a way to go in terms of usability.

[mstlyevil]

I ran into a bit of trouble. The file manager does not want to open when I select the icon and I had to readd Firefox to the menu. The Icon that come with XFCE for FF did not want to work either. It could be because I have added both KDE and Xfce on to the top of my Ubuntu install. I will play around with it for a few days and see what I can accomplish.

[Iandefor]

Agreed; just fact that I can't put anything to the corners of the screen because of those handles has made XFCE unusable for me. They've finally agreed to make them optional though; I've been told that in SVN there's now an option to hide them.

XFCE is nice but it still has quite a way to go in terms of usability. Excellent! I'll check it out sometime.

[fuscia]

openbox and flwm are my favorites. xfce is tragically flawed, like a psychotic girlfriend with a stunningly beautiful face.

[briancurtin]

XFCE is SLOW! Dont use a DE! Use Openbox or Windowmaker! Even faster!

LOL
windowmaker absolutey flys on my P4 3.2-HT with 1 GB of mem (HP laptop)

usually i would turn my laptop off overnight, because GNOME/KDE crank on the fans all day long and it was too loud when the fans go on high at night. ive been running for almost 4 days right now and i cant tell the computer is on sometimes. very quick, very nice

[Sp@z]

openbox and flwm are my favorites. xfce is tragically flawed, like a psychotic girlfriend with a stunningly beautiful face.
been there done that, I won't be using xfce......too bad I can't apt-get remove memories........

[fuscia]

too bad I can't apt-get remove memories........

that's what drinking's for, son.

[vayu]

I ran into a bit of trouble. The file manager does not want to open when I select the icon and I had to readd Firefox to the menu. The Icon that come with XFCE for FF did not want to work either. It could be because I have added both KDE and Xfce on to the top of my Ubuntu install. I will play around with it for a few days and see what I can accomplish.

Despite what some posters are saying I also think XFCE rocks. It's fast, clean and has the only compositor that holds up to everyday use for me. It's not extremest. Not too minimalist nor bloated. I don't understand what the panel problem is that is being described.

Anyway, the file manager thing and the file association hassle is the main problem I've had. My work-around was to make a launcher on the panel that uses "naulilus --no-desktop". It works great. (well as good as nautilus is)
There's also a problem with double entries in some of the menus that I haven't figured out but it's still better than the sluggishness of GNOME.

[MechR]

I wish it had a setting to make maximized windows have no borders... when I used it, I'd often accidentally resize the window when aiming for the scrollbar :? Unfortunately, from what I've read of the mailing lists, the devs have no interest in adding this feature :(

[23meg]

I don't understand what the panel problem is that is being described.It's the fact that you can't put anything to the exact corners of the screen because those panel handles get in the way.too bad I can't apt-get remove memories........
You can dpkg-divert them...

[wabble]

windowmaker absolutey flys on my P4 3.2-HT with 1 GB of mem (HP laptop)

usually i would turn my laptop off overnight, because GNOME/KDE crank on the fans all day long and it was too loud when the fans go on high at night. ive been running for almost 4 days right now and i cant tell the computer is on sometimes. very quick, very nice

I would think that most desktop enviroments fly on that machine.

I use kde and have absolutely no problems with computer fans turning on/off allat any time.

Anyway. Just wanted to say that your selection of desktop enviroment based on the fact of the fans going on and off at night when you don't use your computer sounds strange.

[DaMasta]

I would think that most desktop enviroments fly on that machine.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[mstlyevil]

that's what drinking's for, son.

Works for me most of the time. (I just can't figure out why I have a headache this morning. Oh well drinking fixes that too.) :p

[majikstreet]

I used to use xfce... but on 256mb it was too slow for me. Then, I switched to fluxbox... fluxbox > *

[BWF89]

Does Xfce give you the option of having your minimized windows in the bottom bar or are you forced to have them on the top bar?

[mstlyevil]

Does Xfce give you the option of having your minimized windows in the bottom bar or are you forced to have them on the top bar?

By default they are on the top bar. I have not tried yet but I think you can customize the bars because they do have a configuration utility.

[BWF89]

By default they are on the top bar. I have not tried yet but I think you can customize the bars because they do have a configuration utility.
I tried Slax Popcorn live cd a couple of months ago (it uses Xfce by default) and I couldn't get the bottom taskbar to stretch across the whole screen or the windows to minimize into the bottom taskbar.

[Iandefor]

Does Xfce give you the option of having your minimized windows in the bottom bar or are you forced to have them on the top bar? There's a taskbar plugin for the main panel. It's in the repos. Also, the setting to make it stretch across the screen is in the setting dialog.

[23meg]

Does Xfce give you the option of having your minimized windows in the bottom bar or are you forced to have them on the top bar?
It does; the taskbar plugin (in the package xfce4-taskbar-plugin) provides that functionality.

[vayu]

It's the fact that you can't put anything to the exact corners of the screen because those panel handles get in the way.

I don't experience that, and I just double checked. Must be the way I have it set up. I have the panel with the taskbar plugin on the bottom stretched all the way across.
http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=1750&c=12

You can dpkg-divert them...
:)

[23meg]

I don't experience that, and I just double checked. Must be the way I have it set up. I have the panel with the taskbar plugin on the bottom stretched all the way across.

Sorry, let me put it more precisely: what I meant was that you can't just shove your mouse pointer to a corner and hit whatever you place to the corners because the handles occupy the corners. I absolutely can't live with a non-Fitts' law compilant DE.

[fuscia]

Does Xfce give you the option of having your minimized windows in the bottom bar or are you forced to have them on the top bar?


i got rid of the bar and panels entirely. i can get to everything by way of right and center click menues.

[ctt1wbw]

XFCE is SLOW! Dont use a DE! Use Openbox or Windowmaker! Even faster!

LOL


DOS rules all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


















oh, wait... :mrgreen:

[carlosqueso]

I don't know....I like XFCE. It does what I need, and I like being able to drag windows across workspaces (like having multiple monitors without the space and money outlay)....plus it looks so nice. BTW...I avoid nautilus problems altogether by using thunar! Long live the Viking file manager!

[detyabozhye]

openbox and flwm are my favorites. xfce is tragically flawed, like a psychotic girlfriend with a stunningly beautiful face.
And this is coming from someone who looks quite beautiful herself. LOL *runs away*

[Sp@z]

And this is coming from someone who looks quite beautiful herself. LOL *runs away*
Do you always run away from beautiful women? Not a good thing I should think! LOL

[detyabozhye]

Do you always run away from beautiful women? Not a good thing I should think! LOL
Well, if you say something like that, it's better not to be right there.

[drizek]

Take the red pill in my sig.

KDE and Gnome will be much faster.

[Iandefor]

openbox and flwm are my favorites. xfce is tragically flawed, like a psychotic girlfriend with a stunningly beautiful face. Care to expand on why xfce is like a psychotic girlfriend with a stunningly beautiful face?

Believe it or not, I almost had a beautiful psychotic for a girlfriend once (then she went apesh*t on a friend, and I decided to leave well enough alone), and I do not see the similarity between the two.

[briancurtin]

I would think that most desktop enviroments fly on that machine.

I use kde and have absolutely no problems with computer fans turning on/off allat any time.

Anyway. Just wanted to say that your selection of desktop enviroment based on the fact of the fans going on and off at night when you don't use your computer sounds strange.
yep, GNOME and KDE both run very fast on here. the problem with GNOME is when i walk away from my laptop.

for some reason if im on it (in GNOME), it runs well, but if i leave for a little bit i always come back to a smoking hot laptop. im in college living in a dorm so my computer is like 5 feet from my head when i sleep, and the fans are a bit loud on full power. it is strange, but i just have trouble in GNOME if i walk away for more than a few minutes. windows acted the same way when i got this actually, so i dont blame GNOME.

im having fun with windowmaker right now, and im looking into trying fluxbox and XFCE because i just like trying out new desktops and getting a feel for all of them

[bonzodog]

heh...my gnome broke in dapper (metacity appears b0rked), it has no background or theme manager. So, I installed xubuntu-desktop for dapper, and it is VERY cool. It came with the thunar file manager as well. :)

[BSDFreak]

heh...my gnome broke in dapper (metacity appears b0rked), it has no background or theme manager. So, I installed xubuntu-desktop for dapper, and it is VERY cool. It came with the thunar file manager as well. :)

Metacity is borked from the get go and the implementation of the gnome-metacity abomination is a great reason not to use Ubuntu.

In other news: KDE still works better than gnome in all areas and does not limit the user.

[fuscia]

Care to expand on why xfce is like a psychotic girlfriend with a stunningly beautiful face?

i'm kind of stupified by some of the other reactions to this comment. anyway, xfce did some bizarre things on my machine. for no reason, the right click menu would stop working, or firefox would suddenly disappear. but, it sure is pretty. we're back together now and we've seem to have both grown in the meantime.

[briancurtin]

i installed XFCE last night because of reading this thread, i even posted in it earlier, and in the few hours ive used it i like it. im going to stick with it for a while and see how it goes

ill probably try fluxbox in a few weeks, adding another to the pile that ive used

[detyabozhye]

i'm kind of stupified by some of the other reactions to this comment. anyway, xfce did some bizarre things on my machine. for no reason, the right click menu would stop working, or firefox would suddenly disappear. but, it sure is pretty. we're back together now and we've seem to have both grown in the meantime.
I was just playing around.

[Iandefor]

i'm kind of stupified by some of the other reactions to this comment. anyway, xfce did some bizarre things on my machine. for no reason, the right click menu would stop working, or firefox would suddenly disappear. but, it sure is pretty. we're back together now and we've seem to have both grown in the meantime. Yup... that's pretty crazy. Makes sense why you'd call it psychotic.

[patrick295767]

I was just blown away at how fast XFCE is compared to both Gnome and KDE. I just installed it on top of Ubuntu and logged in. Everything just flies. I am blown away by how much faster it is for applications and programs to open up. Firefox opens almost as soon as I click the button. Gimp loaded in less than a quarter of the time it took for it open under the other DE's. I think I may just have a new favorite DE.

Hi,

Have you tried the fvwm with kicker bar ??

That even faster and still very nice desktop.
You may customize almost ... Everythg !

Enjoy XFCE

Greetz

Pat'

[foxy123]

I love xfce. Been using it for a while. SVN version is great and much better than current stable release (4.2.3.2 I believe) and very stable, so I use it on my working laptop without any problem.

[Neo40]

Hi,

I'd like to install the SVN version on my machine. Is there a 'howto' or something to install it on my Ubuntu box?

Thanks

[foxy123]

Hi,

I'd like to install the SVN version on my machine. Is there a 'howto' or something to install it on my Ubuntu box?

Thanks
I will try to write it tomorrow

[rjs2003]

If any one is interested I have a simple tutorial to install xfce from svn.

Please let me know if I should post it.

[william_nbg]

Hello

I just installed xfce on my computer 2 days ago, no problem to set it up, very easy to configure. Though, I worked with Litestep and bblean back in the windows days - and I've worked with blackbox on Linux.

So far so good, but I need to use for a week or until I decide if it's for me or not.

One question: anyway to change the mouse cursor theme??

[Iandefor]

If any one is interested I have a simple tutorial to install xfce from svn.

Please let me know if I should post it. Go for it!

[rjs2003]

First thing we do is open a console and issue the following command


sudo apt-get remove automake-1.4


This removes the older automake which is incompatible with xfce4 svn

Now we add the required dev packages as well as the newer automake


sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev gtk-doc-tools libxml-parser-perl automake1.8 build-essential libxine-dev python2.4-dev libdbus-glib-1-1 libgamin-dev libtag1-dev libcupsys2-dev libdbh1.0-dev libxml2-dev libstartup-notification0-dev libvte-dev libdbus-glib-1-dev a2ps subversion


This will install all of the required files to build the following xfce4-svn packages:

xfce4-dev-tools
libxfce4util
libxfce4mcs
libxfcegui4
xfce-mcs-manager
xfce-mcs-plugins
xfce-utils
xfce4-icon-theme
xfce4-session
xfwm4
xfwm4-themes
xfce4-panel
xfdesktop
gtk-xfce-engine-2
xfce4-appfinder
xfprint
xfcalendar
libexo
terminal
thunar
xfmedia
mousepad


The attachment below must be renamed as well as given the proper permissions:

5803


mv xfce4svn.sh.txt xfce4svn.sh

chmod 755 xfce4svn.sh


now the attachment is the actual script made by Brian Tarricone, just modified a bit for easier usage so once we have all of the packages that are required for the build process to work, we just issue the following command in the console window.


sudo ./xfce4svn.sh


Now the build process will start and install xfce4-svn in /opt/xfce as to not destroy your original install of xfce4 or mess up any other desktop environment/window manager you already have installed.

Once the build is complete and there were no errors, you drop out of X, and return to the command line, and enter

BEFORE DOING THIS NEXT STEP MAKE SURE YOU WRITE DOWN THE NEXT BIT OF INFORMATION AS YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO VIEW THE FORUM UNLESS YOU USE A TEXT-BASED BROWSER (IE: LYNX)

To drop to the command line:

kde

sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop

gnome/xubuntu

sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop

Now we start xfce4svn with the following command


/opt/xfce/bin/xfce4-svn-start


Now you will be looking at the new xfce4-svn branch, if you wish to remove it, all you need to do is type in a console when you are not running in the svn version of xfce4


sudo rm -rf /opt/xfce


All of the xfce4-svn will be removed from your system and there will be no broken links since it is all installed in /opt/xfce, except for gtk-xfce-engines-2 which is installed in /usr by default so it will function.



enjoy

[Neo40]

Hi Dobey,

I ran your script to install xfce-svn, but I get this error when tyring to compile xfdesktop:

...
...
xfdesktop-xfdesktop-icon-view.o: In function `xfdesktop_icon_view_drag_begin':
/tmp/xfce4svn-co.0/xfdesktop/trunk/src/xfdesktop-icon-view.c:501: undefined reference to `xfdesktop_icon_peek_pixbuf'
xfdesktop-xfdesktop-icon-view.o: In function `xfdesktop_icon_view_paint_icon':
/tmp/xfce4svn-co.0/xfdesktop/trunk/src/xfdesktop-icon-view.c:1147: undefined reference to `xfdesktop_icon_peek_pixbuf'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [xfdesktop] Erreur 1
make[2]: quittant le répertoire « /tmp/xfce4svn-co.0/xfdesktop/trunk/src »
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /tmp/xfce4svn-co.0/xfdesktop/trunk »
make: *** [all] Erreur 2
* Build for module xfdesktop failed.


Any idea what is wrong?
Thanks!

[Iandefor]

Hi Dobey,

I ran your script to install xfce-svn, but I get this error when tyring to compile xfdesktop:

...
...
xfdesktop-xfdesktop-icon-view.o: In function `xfdesktop_icon_view_drag_begin':
/tmp/xfce4svn-co.0/xfdesktop/trunk/src/xfdesktop-icon-view.c:501: undefined reference to `xfdesktop_icon_peek_pixbuf'
xfdesktop-xfdesktop-icon-view.o: In function `xfdesktop_icon_view_paint_icon':
/tmp/xfce4svn-co.0/xfdesktop/trunk/src/xfdesktop-icon-view.c:1147: undefined reference to `xfdesktop_icon_peek_pixbuf'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [xfdesktop] Erreur 1
make[2]: quittant le répertoire « /tmp/xfce4svn-co.0/xfdesktop/trunk/src »
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
make[1]: quittant le répertoire « /tmp/xfce4svn-co.0/xfdesktop/trunk »
make: *** [all] Erreur 2
* Build for module xfdesktop failed.


Any idea what is wrong?
Thanks! I got that same error. Something's wrong with the SVN code.

[dosed150]

im gonna soound a noob but how do i change my desktop environment?

[foxy123]

You may find a guide on the xfce website:

http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=documentation&lang=en#install

[Master Shake]

XFCE is da bomb! I'm never going back to KDE or Gnome!

[johnraff]

I got that same error. Something's wrong with the SVN code.
Did this ever get sorted out?
I might like to try that new version, but don't want to add any messy stuff to my box if poss.

[papangul]

Once I had installed xfce after reading a similar post recommending it. Iinitially I was excited, but I got bored with it very quickly. Also I have a feeling that it is not very efficient in using memory.
The thing that really rocks is Rox-Filer, too bad I can't replace nautilus with rox in gnome.

[raublekick]

ugh, the one thing i hate about xfce is rox. i heard about thunar but never got around to trying it out, mainly because i just prefer gnome

[bored2k]

You could always use nautilus. Also, thunar looks a lot like nautilus.

Personally, I think it's great. I'm now usng rox as my main manager, although I switch to nautilus when I have to deal with moving/deleting certain amount of files.

[papangul]

I'm now usng rox as my main manager,...
Is there any way so that when I click on a folder on the desktop, rox will open?

[psychicdragon]

To have Rox draw the desktop you need to run this:rox --pinboard=MyPinboard
First you'll need to stop nautilus from drawing your desktop.
You need to change this key in Applications > System > Configuration editor to False:/apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop

[papangul]

Thanks, but after turning off nautilus-desktop would the panels continue to be at place?

[bored2k]

Thanks, but after turning off nautilus-desktop would the panels continue to be at place?
Why wouldn't they?

[ebash]

Is thunar the default file manager yet? Or is XFCE still using ROX?

[psychicdragon]

Rox is part of the xubuntu-desktop and the xfce4 meta-packages in Ubuntu (and Debian?) but it is not actually a part of Xfce. The Xfce file manager is xffm, although it may be replaced by thunar as the default in the upcoming Xfce 4.4 release.

Thunar is already pretty usable, although it is still a pretty long way from a stable release.

[foxy123]

current xffm from svn is great. it is light, has a number of useful plugins and a lot of functions. For example you do not need to have a special script to install debs with right click in xffm, it provides this option. I use it as my main file manager.

[papangul]

Why wouldn't they?
Did it.
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9353/screenshot5bg1.th.jpg (http://img153.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot5bg1.jpg)
Just missing the cd-rom icon and create new folder/create launcher options in menu on rox-desktop.

[raublekick]

Ok, so I had to reinstall Ubuntu, and I decided to just do a server install and go with xubuntu-desktop first. I've been messing with it and molding it to my liking. Just a few questions:

Rox - How do I keep it from resizing? I realy, really, really, hate this...

Panel - Why can't I stretch it all the way across the screen? I know the one plugin gives the option, and that plugin is installed (through xubuntu-desktop), but the option still is not there.

MP3s - Does Xfmedia have mp3 support by default, because, uh... Literally the only things I've done on this were apt-get update, dist-upgrade, install xubuntu-desktop, and reconfigure xserver. But without even thinking I popped on some Analord mp3s just to make sure sound was working, not even thinking that I would need the codecs, but they played! Weird.

Hmm and some Gaim stuff isn't working (sound, flashing in the task bar)

[alfonz]

Hmm xFce is good on older, slower machines. Although it seems a tad bit more responsive the Gnome, I was refering to the desktop, loading programs are pretty much the same with both.

my system is a p4 2.8HT (OC'ed to 3.1). On this machine there is no real difference in speed. On my p3 733MHz there is a noticable difference, where Gnome's slight bloatness starts to hurt it but not very much.

[psychicdragon]

Ok, so I had to reinstall Ubuntu, and I decided to just do a server install and go with xubuntu-desktop first. I've been messing with it and molding it to my liking. Just a few questions:

Rox - How do I keep it from resizing? I realy, really, really, hate this...

Panel - Why can't I stretch it all the way across the screen? I know the one plugin gives the option, and that plugin is installed (through xubuntu-desktop), but the option still is not there.

MP3s - Does Xfmedia have mp3 support by default, because, uh... Literally the only things I've done on this were apt-get update, dist-upgrade, install xubuntu-desktop, and reconfigure xserver. But without even thinking I popped on some Analord mp3s just to make sure sound was working, not even thinking that I would need the codecs, but they played! Weird.

Hmm and some Gaim stuff isn't working (sound, flashing in the task bar)

Hopefully, here are some answers:

There is an option to stop rox from resizing. It's in the Filer Windows section of the options. You may also want to turn off the double-click to resize option. You open the options from the context-menu, right-click somewhere in the window.

The only way to get the panel to expand to fill the screen is with the taskbar plugin. In the upcoming 4.4 release (or 4.3 from svn) the panel has been completely re-written and is a lot nicer.

Xfmedia uses libxine as opposed to gstreamer, so a lot of formats will play without installing any extra packages.

I think the flashing taskbar thing works with the new panel, not quite sure though.

[mstlyevil]

im gonna soound a noob but how do i change my desktop environment?

Just open up the terminal and type

sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop

and there you have another DE you can boot into to.

Now if you want to log into Xubuntu all you have to do is go to sessions on your loggin screen and select XFCE then type in your user name and password. A dialog box will open asking if you want to make this your default DE. Just click for this session only and wala, you will have a new DE installed.

You can also do the same thing for Kubuntu by replacing xubuntu-desktop with kubuntu-desktop.

[mstlyevil]

I had a much better experience this time installing XFCE on top of my fresh Ubuntu install. This time I did not have KDE installed also so some of the bugs I had before are not present now. I also replaced Rox with Nautilus since I like the way Nautilus looks and works better than ROX.

I still swear that XFCE is much faster on my Athlon64 3200 PC with 1 gig of RAM.
Open Office loaded in three seconds and I timed it several times. I am lucky if I can get OO.o to open in 10-20 seconds on Gnome. The only thing I actually miss from my Gnome install is my Knome windows manager Kwin. I like the eye candy it provided. Maybe Poofyhairyguy can play with it and see if Kwin will work in XFCE without slowing it down much.

Also I tried to install the taskbar pluggin and found it was already installed by default.

[poofyhairguy]

Irony.

[QUOTE]
Maybe Poofyhairyguy can play with it and see if Kwin will work in XFCE without slowing it down much.


XFCE is the only DE with a window manager I have not tried to replace. Want to try?

Use this command:

sudo gedit /etc/xdg/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc

Make the file look like this:

[Failsafe Session]
Count=4
Client0_Command=kwin
Client0_PerScreen=False
Client1_Command=xfce4-panel
Client1_PerScreen=True
Client2_Command=xftaskbar4
Client2_PerScreen=True
Client3_Command=xfdesktop
Client3_PerScreen=False

[mstlyevil]

Irony.



XFCE is the only DE with a window manager I have not tried to replace. Want to try?

Use this command:

sudo gedit /etc/xdg/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc

Make the file look like this:

[Failsafe Session]
Count=4
Client0_Command=kwin
Client0_PerScreen=False
Client1_Command=xfce4-panel
Client1_PerScreen=True
Client2_Command=xftaskbar4
Client2_PerScreen=True
Client3_Command=xfdesktop
Client3_PerScreen=False

Did just that and so far it seems to be working as well as it did under Gnome. I also have not noticed any performace deterioration. Open Office still fully loaded in three seconds. Now if I can figure out how to take a screenshot.

[poofyhairguy]

Now if I can figure out how to take a screenshot.

Please. Glad it worked well. Thank the Gentoo wiki for that one.

[mstlyevil]

Please. Glad it worked well. Thank the Gentoo wiki for that one.

I am still working on it. It just does not have a option I can find so far on the menu to take a screenshot. As soon as I figure it out I will post it in the desktop thread.

BTW Thank you Gentoo!

[foxy123]

I am still working on it. It just does not have a option I can find so far on the menu to take a screenshot. As soon as I figure it out I will post it in the desktop thread.

BTW Thank you Gentoo!
just type in the terminal
scrot -d <number of secods you want to delay>

[poofyhairguy]

I am still working on it. It just does not have a option I can find so far on the menu to take a screenshot. As soon as I figure it out I will post it in the desktop thread.

BTW Thank you Gentoo!

Use the screen capture feature of gimp.

[mstlyevil]

Here it goes. My KXFCE desktop.

http://static.flickr.com/43/100371410_b5d2eeca0a_o.jpg

[Clark Nova]

What are those desklets you are using there? I like the look of them, plus my weather one does nothing much except tell me it can't retrieve data.:confused:

What are those one's called, if you don't mind?:KS

[mstlyevil]

Those are gdesklets. you can have them istalled by Automatix or by opening the terminal and typing

sudo apt-get install gdesklets

[Stormy Eyes]

Do you always run away from beautiful women? Not a good thing I should think! LOL

Like the Deep Purple song goes:

Sweet Lucy was a dancer
But none of us would chance her
Because she was a samurai
She made electric shadows
beyond our fingertips
And none of us could reach that high

[Clark Nova]

Those are gdesklets. you can have them istalled by Automatix or by opening the terminal and typing

sudo apt-get install gdesklets

I've got gDesklets installed, I was just wondering what those particular ones that you are using are called. I'm not happy with the performance of the weather one I have you see and that one looks much nicer :)

[mstlyevil]

I've got gDesklets installed, I was just wondering what those particular ones that you are using are called. I'm not happy with the performance of the weather one I have you see and that one looks much nicer :)

All of these are side candy. I tried putting OKC OK in on hte options but it would just display ambiguos. So I tried Edmond OK (The suburb of OKC I live in) and it worked. I still have all the colors set at default.

[ounas]

openbox and flwm are my favorites. xfce is tragically flawed, like a psychotic girlfriend with a stunningly beautiful face.


That's a good one have to remember it..

[raublekick]

Also I tried to install the taskbar pluggin and found it was already installed by default.

Yes, it is. But for some reason the option is still not there for me. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place...

[Neo40]

Hi,

I have installed xfce-svn but when I want to launch it by: /opt/xfce/bin/startxfce4
I always get the version 4.2.2 How can I fix it?

Thanks in advance!

[bonzodog]

Just so you know, Xubuntu-desktop in dapper is 4.3.0 - and it has the compositor turned on. It is VERY cool. Also, xscreensaver runs in translucent mode, which means that graphics are ontop of your desktop. I have a screenshot in the gallery under February 2006 screenshots.

[K.Mandla]

Sorry, I know it's in poor taste to bump an old thread, but ...

XFCE rocks!

[detyabozhye]

XFWM rocks! The rest, naw, I like GNOME. :p

[benplaut]

READ THIS!!

The version of XFCE on breezy, slax, and msot distros that have xfce is the stable release, 4.2.x. The version in dapper in 4.3

While only a .1 number update, it is almost a COMPLETE rewrite of the 4.2 series. The fitt's law compat has been fixed, and the whole shebang is 327% more configurable (via GUI).

In conclusion:

The old version sucks
The new version is damn awesome

-a *box user

[briancurtin]

In conclusion:

The old version sucks
The new version is damn awesome
i like this conclusion

[detyabozhye]

I'll have to check it out some time.

[Super King]

I'm all over XFCE (Xubuntu) come full Dapper release

[dermotti]

Xubuntu is unbelievably awesome :twisted:

[K.Mandla]

It really is. My only gripe would be printer management, which is still a little cryptic for me. But I don't know if that's the fault of XFCE or just the nature of Xubuntu.

Either way, I'm loving it!

P.S.: Mom digs it, too.

[encho]

I've tryed xfce4 some time ago (think it was 4.2 or even 4.0) and was unimpressed. But lately I became very annoyed by nautilus' slow responding and decided to give a new xfce4 a try. And now I'm proud Xubuntu user.

First, xfce panel. It is so much better than gnome's. It is in fact mix between kde's and gnome's panel, taking the best from both worlds. I've really missed kde's quicklauncher (those small icons displayed in rows). It is here now. Launchers are also very clever - just a single app or menu as an option (never liked gnome's drawer). You have to see it to believe it. And all other applets are sooo cooler than gnome's, even the clock.

Second, there are desktop icons now. You can choose real desktop, as in gnome and kde, or minimized (iconified) apps to be displayed.

Third, file manager. Thunar is some kind of clone of nautilus. But veeery fast. Smb support is still missing, but is getting there.

And finally, it is rock-solid (even with xgl) and it is still in beta. Support for gnome-session and kde's is there (configurable from control panel), so you can have your gnome/kde apps that were auto starting with gnome/kde. If you miss nautilus desktop, just add nautilus as startup script, and you'll have your gnome, just with different, cool, panel. What else do you need?

[detyabozhye]

I didn't like 4.2, but u guys are really making me wanna try this one.
*starts up Synaptic*

[detyabozhye]

Argh! Double post. -_-

[detyabozhye]

Really nice :D Much, much better than 4.2. I almost switched, but the printing and locale things made me run back to GNOME, maybe in another revision or so, I'll be an XFCE user, but not yet. ;)

[K.Mandla]

And finally, it is rock-solid (even with xgl) and it is still in beta.
Do I understand you to say that you got Xubuntu to run an XGL desktop? I tried two or three times with the instructions in the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu-xgl?highlight=%28xubuntu-xgl%29), and came up with nothing each time. I'd certainly love tips, if you can offer them. :D

[centered effect]

I love XFCE, and using 4.4 beta on Breezy nicely!

[Thirion]

Do I understand you to say that you got Xubuntu to run an XGL desktop? I tried two or three times with the instructions in the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu-xgl?highlight=%28xubuntu-xgl%29), and came up with nothing each time. I'd certainly love tips, if you can offer them. :D

The instructions on the wiki doesn't worked for me, too.

http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/XFCE?highlight=%28XGL%29%7C%28Xubuntu%29
That's german but worked for me. There are some instructions on the Gentoo Wiki which should work too.

[superchar42]

xfce is amazing. I'm on an older machine and hate KDE for some reason (I still have to figure out why, but it just gives me the willies) ... but xfce is nice. And the little mouse-thing is so cute. :D

[encho]

The instructions on the wiki doesn't worked for me, too.

http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/XFCE?highlight=%28XGL%29%7C%28Xubuntu%29
That's german but worked for me. There are some instructions on the Gentoo Wiki which should work too.

I just followed the instructions for gnome (before even installing xubuntu) and added gentoo's howto changes. But the nice thing is: if you want some eyecandy, but not too much, as xgl does, then just enable the composite extension in xorg.conf and you will have additional options in your settings, like panel transparency, compositor (windows decorations transparency, shadows, windows transparency, etc.). Xgl sometimes gets on my nerves, with every new compiz release, one or more effects are added - making it little bloated, so I am quite fine with xfce's windows manager. ... hope not to go off the topic :) .

[detyabozhye]

OK, the latest GNOME has gotten slow at big loads, so I am now officially an XFCE user. :D (If anything goes wrong, I'll try KDE)

[skunkpit]

i started off on slackware with kde for a few days before dreadfully hating kde
then installed enlightenment minus the pager, and i was good
system was a p3 733, 512mb pc133

for me xfce4 on gentoo is as fast as enlightenment or fluxbox
on a semprom2200+ 768mb ddr333

same system with ubuntu dapper xfce4 is a tad slower then fluxbox/enlightenment
but xfce4 does run faster then gnome still maintaining similar user friendliness which is good for people just getting into the movement

but generally the only wm/dm i dislike is kde.. reminds me a bit much of windows...
and my memories with it back in 1998-99 were..

nnoooo memorys.. coming back...

chugs can of faxe10*

theerrre we go :)

[zak-]

How do I install the latest version of Xfce on breezy? The one I'm getting through apt is 4.2. I can't use dapper cause it's ati drivers don't work for me.

[dralaroc]

Hello ladies & gentz,

After experimenting with U/Kubuntu in which all performed well, seen this thread and decided to do a clean Xubuntu install. It has been a week now and I must say "The Eagle Has Landed". Xubuntu will be my main os for this particular machine:

Amd Duron 1.3Ghz
1 Gig of generic ram
1 12gb hard drive
1 100gb hard drive
Generic Cdrw
DLink Dwl 120-D usb wireless adapter
Onboard video using vesa

very simple and very responsive system :D

My apologizes I forgot the customary "Xubuntu Rocks" !!

Greetz from the Buckeye State & Long Live Ubuntu

[RAV TUX]

I was just blown away at how fast XFCE is compared to both Gnome and KDE. I just installed it on top of Ubuntu and logged in. Everything just flies. I am blown away by how much faster it is for applications and programs to open up. Firefox opens almost as soon as I click the button. Gimp loaded in less than a quarter of the time it took for it open under the other DE's. I think I may just have a new favorite DE.

I tried Xubuntu, while I loved the little mouse running inside the Ubuntu logo. I didn't like much else about XFCE on Ubuntu.

I was blown away by the live CD XFCE edition of Dreamlinux Studio Edition:

give it a try and prepare to be impressed:

Dreamlinux XFCE Studio Edition
http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/



for now I am sticking with Ubuntu 6.06 & Gentoo 2006.1


(overall I prefer a Gnome desktop)

[lepre]

i had use xubuntu 6.06 for 3 weeks now and i'm happy with it. i just find some missing features that i'd like. and i want to try the 4.4 beta 1 to see if something is there. ( i wish to partecipate to it too)
but i have 2 questions:
- can i install it and have still both versions? (i'm not very practice with linux and i don't want to messup my current situation)
- if i install it can i directly have all my setting there too? (don't want to customize everything again!)

thank you :KS


omg: i just found out how to see my xfce version...and i'm already at 4.3.90.2 alias 4.4BETA1....i leave the questions for future updates :)

[Paool]

http://xfce-diary.blogspot.com/ <- here's info about xfce 4.4 beta 2. it will be released today :)

is it any chance to include it in dapper repository? or only in edgy?

[lapsey]

i too love xfce but the lack of a native printing interface is what kills it for me.

does anyone else find that choosing exit from the menu only works the second time you click it, and that when opening thunar, it will launch 2 instances rather than one?

I look forward to xfce on eft, i really do.

[bruce89]

is it any chance to include it in dapper repository? or only in edgy?
Most likely only Edgy.

[encho]

i too love xfce but the lack of a native printing interface is what kills it for me.

does anyone else find that choosing exit from the menu only works the second time you click it, and that when opening thunar, it will launch 2 instances rather than one?

I look forward to xfce on eft, i really do.

Thunar works fine here. Maybe something in your settings? Sometimes though items in quicklaunch need two clicks.

[joakim2]

Most likely only Edgy.

If anyone built unofficial debs, feel free to post (a link to) them... :)

[-Phi-]

...and that when opening thunar, it will launch 2 instances rather than one?
Thunar does this at least once a session for me. Sometimes launching a terminal does the same thing. Still looking for a reason. I don't have trouble with the quit button though.

- Phi

[HydroDiOxide]

Using dapper with Gnome right now, but looking forward to make the step to xfce. How can I create a session with xfce besides my Gnome session so I can try xfce out. Preferably I would not loose any of my Gnome settings (if any of this sounds weird, I'm a complete n00b to linux/Ubuntu/DE's so please don't shoot me...:neutral: ).

Cheers

[bruce89]

Using dapper with Gnome right now, but looking forward to make the step to xfce. How can I create a session with xfce besides my Gnome session so I can try xfce out. Preferably I would not lose any of my Gnome settings (if any of this sounds weird, I'm a complete n00b to linux/Ubuntu/DE's so please don't shoot me...:neutral: ).

Cheers

Doesn't sound daft at all.
sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
aptitude means you can uninstall all of it again if you don't want it.

[HydroDiOxide]

@bruce89

Great! And where would I uninstall it again... :confused:

ps: maybe this is a rtfm, but where can I find I list of commands like aptitude?

[lapsey]

just whipped up a gnome-free search interface (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214059)

[bruce89]

Great! And where would I uninstall it again... :confused:
sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop
provided you installed xubuntu-desktop with aptitude, such as the command I provided earlier.

ps: maybe this is a rtfm, but where can I find I list of commands like aptitude?
We do not tell people RTFM in this forum (well, I don't). This might help - https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html

[MetalMusicAddict]

A new screenshot from my XFCE game partition.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9840/screen7xa.th.jpg (http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/9840/screen7xa.jpg)

XFCE does indeed rock. \m/

[MaaSTaaR]

i tryied it yesterday , and it's work very fine :) it's great becuase it's lightweight .

When i tryied to run "OpenOffice Writer" it's run on Xfce faster than GNOME .

[3rdalbum]

Am I the only person who uses Xfm within Gnome occasionally?

[detyabozhye]

I do when I'm in Gnome, but I run Xfce almost full-time.

[mrazster]

Well atm I'm using Xubuntu, but I have tried both Gnome and KDE. First I liked KDE because it was so "complete" with all applicatons that came with it...but after a while it feelt clutterd with to much bling",bling" if you understand.
So I went trying Gnome...and that feelt much better...a little more simple but yet complete and fast. And configurable enough.
After a while I got courious about xfce...read about it and decided to give it a whirl.

I've been running it for a month now, did a clean install of Xubuntu(this is my main computer)....and so far it feels like I have found the DE of my choosie....it's very fast...doesn't use nearly as much system resources as the other DE's...even with the composite manager enabled, and the stability is remarkable.
The configurability is leaving some things out..you have to do much on your own. But if you are OK with that then you'll love it.
Mabye I'll try Openbox and WM some day...but for now I'm more than happy with Xfce4...and I bet it'll be even better when they get the few bugs ironed out.
I've been thinking about doing a serverinstall and just install xfce-core and then install only the things I WANT/NEED...should be even more "sleek".

[gurgle]

^^ thanks for the insights. i am in the same boat. i think i will just try out xubuntu (dont you get love aptitude?) and see how i like it. the sleekness really looks like attractive to me.

[RavenOfOdin]

It works well on my iMac 333, the only issue I find is that every so often the CPU usage goes up to 100 for about 5 to 10 seconds.

Oh well, I need more RAM anyway.

[detyabozhye]

I have a P4 3.2GHz, 512MB RAM, etc. but I still like to use Xubuntu because it's the cleanest, fastest full DE there is.

[oss_monkey]

Xubuntu rocks! :)

Well, almost. My gripes with XFCE are:
1) Sometimes launching thunar from the menu generates two instances of it.
2) Sometimes, I have to click twice (not double-click) on the Quit icon to get it going.
3) When I run nautilus for samba, the desktop is taken over by nautilus. I find that nautilus is too spec-hungry (look at my specs below).

Is there a way to fix any of these? I read earlier that #3 can be solved by editing gconf, but I don't have it (at least the terminal says so). I'm on a pure Xubuntu install... Ideas, anyone?

[K.Mandla]

I love it when this thread resurfaces.

XFCE ROCKS! \\:D/

[Iandefor]

Xubuntu rocks! :)

Well, almost. My gripes with XFCE are:
1) Sometimes launching thunar from the menu generates two instances of it.
2) Sometimes, I have to click twice (not double-click) on the Quit icon to get it going.
3) When I run nautilus for samba, the desktop is taken over by nautilus. I find that nautilus is too spec-hungry (look at my specs below).

Is there a way to fix any of these? I read earlier that #3 can be solved by editing gconf, but I don't have it (at least the terminal says so). I'm on a pure Xubuntu install... Ideas, anyone? I had lots of problems with #3 way back before there ever was a Xubuntu to speak of :D. Instead of running the command "nautilus", try "nautilus --no-desktop" Just change your launchers accordingly. No gconf necessary :).

[oss_monkey]

Thanks! I just hope no other application screws it up. :)

[Cyraxzz]

It may be faster, but that desktop environment is annoying, but i use Xubuntu for games only.

[foxy123]

Thanks! I just hope no other application screws it up. :)

btw, you can use xffm as it has a samba plugin. Very neat as you can mount your shares with right-click.

[TecnoVM64]

Yup, I love XFCE too, it's really fast as I see it, very customizable too :D

[-Phi-]

Finally found a solution to the Thunar opening twice thing. http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/11/how-to-solve-the-thunar-opening-twice-problem/

1) Go to Xfce Menu > System > Xfce 4 Task Manager.

2) Scroll through until you see Thunar. Right click it, and click Kill. If it asks if you want to actually kill the process, say yes.

3) Exit all of your programs, and go to Xfce Menu > Quit. Check “Save session for future logins”, and log out.

4) Log in, start Thunar, and hopefully it will only load once. This works for xfrun4 too!

* Note: To make sure Thunar doesn’t load up in the background next time you log in, uncheck “Save session for future logins”.
Seems to be working so far :)

- Phi

[TuxCrafter]

I love XFCE almost totaly i also have great idea's to even make it better, I want to help with that so if you can get me in the development teame contact me. I want to be in the xubuntu part. I have used xfce on debian and fedora but it is not the same thing as xubuntu.

[ahaslam]

I really like xubuntu but it's terribly slow on my laptop. Strangely Gnome is much quicker & KDE feels even faster (though it does use more resources than gnome).

Has anyone else had this with Xubuntu (it doesn't make sense)?

Tony.

[TuxCrafter]

I am a via epia fan and i use a 733 MHz C3 CPU and uses xubuntu it is faster than gnome but it is slow on the reacting site than windows.

But networking with NFS and playing DVDs an video is superior under xubuntu

[raublekick]

bump for great justice.

been using Xubuntu exclusively for about a month now and loving it. just a few downsides:

1. mounting is kinda weird. everything but my SD Card auto-mounts (even after adding to fstab), and things only mount if Thunar is open(ed). So i can't turn on one of my external drives and pop some mp3s into Audacious, because i have to open Thunar first or the drive won't show up in /media/. this is the same behaviour that occured in Kubuntu (Dapper) for me.

2. DVD playback is skippy, but it works fine in Ubuntu. at first i thought this was a dma issue, but ripping CDs is actually faster in Xubuntu for me.

[TuxCrafter]

Do you have the correct video card driver settings?

Check with

glxinfo

glxgears

glxgears -printfps

[ephemeros]

XFCE bugs? problems? tell me where to find them, i'd like to send some feedback to the developers :D

[TuxCrafter]

XFCE bugs? problems? tell me where to find them, i'd like to send some feedback to the developers :D

http://www.xubuntu.org/devel#bug_triage

[detyabozhye]

2. DVD playback is skippy, but it works fine in Ubuntu. at first i thought this was a dma issue, but ripping CDs is actually faster in Xubuntu for me.

Which app are you using for playing the DVDs? I had the same problem with VLC, but it worked fine with MPlayer.

[raublekick]

Which app are you using for playing the DVDs? I had the same problem with VLC, but it worked fine with MPlayer.

gxine in xubuntu, totem in gnome. i tried mplayer but it just wasn't working right in general (menus mostly)

[diatribe]

xfce is very good. I like e17 also, but xfce works better to me. heres a screencap with composite on.

http://i16.tinypic.com/2ntb588.png

[detyabozhye]

which XFWM theme are you using?

[Ben Sprinkle]

I used to use xfce... but on 256mb it was too slow for me. Then, I switched to fluxbox... fluxbox > *

I use GNOME on my 256mb 600mhz, way faster than flux and Xfce.

[Kindred]

I use GNOME on my 256mb 600mhz, way faster than flux and Xfce.

Odd.

[Ben Sprinkle]

But it does go faster for some reason.

[gsieranski]

Tried the script and recieved the following when building the xfce-mcs-manager:

gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xfce4svn-co.0/xfce-mcs-manager/trunk/po'
Making all in xfce-setting-show
gmake[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/xfce4svn-co.0/xfce-mcs-manager/trunk/xfce-setting-show'
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -I.. -I.. -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"xfce-settings-show\" -DG_DISABLE_CAST_CHECKS -I/home/gps/opt/xfce/include/xfce4 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/home/gps/opt/xfce/include/xfce4 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -g -O2 -MT xfce_setting_show-xfce-setting-show.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/xfce_setting_show-xfce-setting-show.Tpo -c -o xfce_setting_show-xfce-setting-show.o `test -f 'xfce-setting-show.c' || echo './'`xfce-setting-show.c
mv -f .deps/xfce_setting_show-xfce-setting-show.Tpo .deps/xfce_setting_show-xfce-setting-show.Po
/bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link gcc -I/home/gps/opt/xfce/include/xfce4 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/home/gps/opt/xfce/include/xfce4 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -g -O2 -o xfce-setting-show xfce_setting_show-xfce-setting-show.o -L/home/gps/opt/xfce/lib -lxfce4mcs-client -lxfce4util -lglib-2.0 -L/home/gps/opt/xfce/lib -lxfcegui4 -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lxfce4util -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0
mkdir .libs
gcc -I/home/gps/opt/xfce/include/xfce4 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/home/gps/opt/xfce/include/xfce4 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -g -O2 -o xfce-setting-show xfce_setting_show-xfce-setting-show.o -L/home/gps/opt/xfce/lib /home/gps/opt/xfce/lib/libxfce4mcs-client.so -L/usr/lib64 /home/gps/opt/xfce/lib/libxfcegui4.so -lX11 -lgtk-x11-2.0 /home/gps/opt/xfce/lib/libxfce4util.so -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0 -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/home/gps/opt/xfce/lib -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/home/gps/opt/xfce/lib
/home/gps/opt/xfce/lib/libxfcegui4.so: undefined reference to `disconnect'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
gmake[2]: *** [xfce-setting-show] Error 1
gmake[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xfce4svn-co.0/xfce-mcs-manager/trunk/xfce-setting-show'
gmake[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/xfce4svn-co.0/xfce-mcs-manager/trunk'
gmake: *** [all] Error 2
* Build for module xfce-mcs-manager failed.
$

Any Thoughts?

Thanks,
Greg

[CaptainCabinet]

I tried Xfce and didn't like it. It was alot slower than I thought it would be.
Gnome is definitely my favourite desktop environment. :D

[K.Mandla]

Tried the script and recieved the following when building the xfce-mcs-manager: ...
Can I ask why you're compiling it? Isn't it easier to install it from the repositories?

[gsieranski]

I am getting an error: http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3863

Which at the bottom he says you can fix by modifying main.c

Maybe I will just try and build xfdesktop and replace whats on the system with the newly built one.