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JohnyBoy123
July 1st, 2009, 01:53 AM
Hi Friends, I need help in installing and get RDP of GUI of new ubuntu server 9.04. The situation is I have a website that is using air application, and I have new ubuntu server. Now I need to get that site running on new ubuntu server. problem is Ubuntu server dont have GUI and I need GUI to install air application. I've installe d all other required software for site running but untill I get the GUI interface i cant install the air application. I've installed the ubuntu-desktop on server and tried to run the GUI through different options like ssh tunnel, vncviewer, vpn, etc.... but all are having problems at some stage , may be I m missing some steps. My purpose is to install GUI correctly on ubuntu server and get a ccess to that GUI. I have ubuntu client version is installed in my local pc and also have windows xp installed in local pc. But not sure which is the best way to install the GUI on server and get the RDP of server GUI. I can roll back all the installation on server and can start from fresh installation on server , but need some guidance. Please help me by guiding the best way to do this. T hanks a lot in advance.

Avinash.Rao
July 1st, 2009, 04:20 AM
Do you want to install Ubuntu Desktop on the server or do you want to take remote control of the server desktop.??

netztier
July 1st, 2009, 05:33 AM
Hi Friends, I need help in installing and get RDP of GUI of new ubuntu server 9.04.

RDP is Microsoft's Remote Desktop Protocol and there is no server-side support on Ubuntu for RDP, i.e. you cannot share a daesktop with RDP. However, there is an RDP client included with Ubuntu Desktop, that allows to access desktops of Windows machines over the network.

Desktop sharing on Ubuntu Desktop is generally done with the VNC protocol, for which different viewers/clients exist.

Ubuntu servers don't have GUIs: This has been and still is a wise design decision by Canonical (also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI).

If you really require a GUI, you might be better off by installing Ubuntu Desktop from CD (yes, Ubuntu Desktop!), adding your server apps to it (NFS, Samba, Apache, BIND etc, to suit your needs), and then replace the standard kernel with the server-optimized kernel.

Still, an application that requires a local GUI to install on a GUI-less server brings some questions: bad choice of application, or bad choice of server platform?

regards

Marc

Avinash.Rao
July 1st, 2009, 09:53 AM
Marc,

Will the installation of Xubuntu-desktop on top of Ubuntu Server 8.04 change the kernel? I guess not?




If you really require a GUI, you might be better off by installing Ubuntu Desktop from CD (yes, Ubuntu Desktop!), adding your server apps to it (NFS, Samba, Apache, BIND etc, to suit your needs), and then replace the standard kernel with the server-optimized kernel.

Still, an application that requires a local GUI to install on a GUI-less server brings some questions: bad choice of application, or bad choice of server platform?

regards

Marc

netztier
July 1st, 2009, 10:40 AM
Will the installation of Xubuntu-desktop

Of course not, but that's not what I suggested, either.

If a desktop environment is an absolute need, I would suggest to install (one of) the desktop versions of Ubuntu, and then add a server kernel to it. The reason is: the set of packages that "makes" an Ubuntu Desktop installation is well-integrated and "everyting fits nicely together", better than it does when you add "ubuntu-desktop" (or kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop) server installation.

So by doing the "reverse approach" of adding a server kernel to a desktop installation results in a better-integrated server-with-desktop. Not that this would be something desirable, anyway...

regards

Marc

Avinash.Rao
July 4th, 2009, 03:01 AM
Thank you for your explanation.
I have done the first one.. Installed Xubuntu Desktop on Ubuntu Server 8.04 bcoz LTSP was one of the main services requried.

;)

Of course not, but that's not what I suggested, either.

If a desktop environment is an absolute need, I would suggest to install (one of) the desktop versions of Ubuntu, and then add a server kernel to it. The reason is: the set of packages that "makes" an Ubuntu Desktop installation is well-integrated and "everyting fits nicely together", better than it does when you add "ubuntu-desktop" (or kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop) server installation.

So by doing the "reverse approach" of adding a server kernel to a desktop installation results in a better-integrated server-with-desktop. Not that this would be something desirable, anyway...

regards

Marc

windependence
July 4th, 2009, 03:06 AM
What exactly does this air thing do? I have never heard of it. CLI is your best bet if you are going to run a production server.

-Tim

Avinash.Rao
July 5th, 2009, 08:01 AM
Even I dont know about this AIR!!! and even CLI!! :)


What exactly does this air thing do? I have never heard of it. CLI is your best bet if you are going to run a production server.

-Tim

Avinash.Rao
July 19th, 2009, 01:37 AM
Marc,

How do i do this? How do install a server kernel to an already installed XUbuntu Desktop? My intention is to make use of my new Sun Fire Server X4150 to the maximum in terms of hardware resources and performance.

Thanks
Avinash


Of course not, but that's not what I suggested, either.

If a desktop environment is an absolute need, I would suggest to install (one of) the desktop versions of Ubuntu, and then add a server kernel to it. The reason is: the set of packages that "makes" an Ubuntu Desktop installation is well-integrated and "everyting fits nicely together", better than it does when you add "ubuntu-desktop" (or kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop) server installation.

So by doing the "reverse approach" of adding a server kernel to a desktop installation results in a better-integrated server-with-desktop. Not that this would be something desirable, anyway...

regards

Marc

cariboo907
July 19th, 2009, 03:00 AM
To install a server kernel, open Synaptic and search for linux-image*server, then mark it for installation, then click apply. According to this (http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/AIR_for_Linux:Release_Notes), you have to install Adobe AIR from the command line.

Edit: create a link to the package:

apt://linux-image-server

juancarlospaco
July 19th, 2009, 10:40 AM
Don't use VNC on Server, or you get hacked/pwned, use SSH, it can handle X.

example:

ssh -X user@server-ip nautilus

windependence
July 19th, 2009, 11:46 AM
A good, sound suggestion. Yeah, VNC has gotten really weak on security as of late.

-Tim

z3uSS
August 20th, 2009, 06:54 AM
still if someone really wants GUI on ubuntu 9.04 how can u do it ? because xinit is not installed, instead x11-common apears as the main package, so startx doesn't work,

anyone knows how can i install GUI (kde or gnome) on 9.04 server ?

help pls....

Avinash.Rao
August 20th, 2009, 12:08 PM
What exactly do u want? Just an X-Display or the complete desktop on Server

If you have a server install, you can do a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to install the complete ubuntu desktop which is based on Gnome..
or apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for KDE


still if someone really wants GUI on ubuntu 9.04 how can u do it ? because xinit is not installed, instead x11-common apears as the main package, so startx doesn't work,

anyone knows how can i install GUI (kde or gnome) on 9.04 server ?

help pls....