Best MMORPG? ( in your opinion )

[jenova_skill]

Well guys I just orderd my computer upgrades and I'm trying to decide what Top notch Online rpg to play.
I'm an old school Asheron's call player Then moved to WOW I'm board with that now.
Whats next?
Off the top my head LOTR online seems to be the top contender.
Ne thoughts?

MMORPGS played In order
Asheron's call
everquest
DAOC
Asheron's call 2 ( bomb'd out )
Guild wars
WOW ( all expansions )

I've tried mostly all of the newer Free to play RPG's as well and Even tho there not that bad They just aren't refined as the P2P games.

[Amilo1718]

PlaneShift ;)

[Inkpot]

I know I'll probably get burned at the stake for saying this, but if you want to play a quality MMORPG, don't go with anything that is native to Linux/Ubuntu. While they each have their (very vocal) advocates, the truth is that they simply cannot compare to what is currently on the Windows market in terms of gameplay, graphical level and content.

I quite agree with you that Lord Of The Rings is the top contender. It's a very, very well-made MMORPG and you will lose years off of your life playing it. Sadly, to my knowledge, this great game cannot be played under Ubuntu.

If you are strictly looking for roleplaying communities, I would highly recommend checking out Second Life. While it's not a 'game' per se, I have personally had more fun actually roleplaying in there than most other MMORPG's....which is kinda silly when you think about it, but there it is.

Hope this helps,

Inkpot

[wingnux]

Lineage II and Runes of Magic.

[efikkan]

I would say WoW, but I really don't play much mmorpg any more.

[arcdrag]

I've played Warhammer, AoC, WoW, FFXI and a ton of F2P MMO's. I consider WoW to be the best overall, but it doesn't do anything exceptionally well. AoC does combat the best and probably has the most enjoyable single player content. Warhammer is the best if you've only got 15-30 minutes to play but gets pretty boring in long sittings. FFXI is probably the best when your friends are online with you...but absolutely horrible when you're on your own or you only have a few minutes to play.

Would like to play LotRO...but this last year of college has been crazily busy for me since I'm interning and still a full time student. 80+ hours a week devoted to personal life doesn't allow much time for MMO's.

[ChriswithaTemper]

Best MMORPG in my opinion is Ultima Online, and I'm not talking about how it is nowadays being run by Electronic Arts. Im talking 10 years ago when you murdered someone online you knew they were ripping their phonejack out of the wall on the other end crying. I play on a freeshard that holds these values true.

WWW.UOSECONDAGE.COM

No ai compensates for real PVP competition,, Espescially when one guy is a mule just trying to get some ore together and the other guy is a 7x gm mage.

[Pax-Man]

World of Warcraft and this is for the joy I get when I play the game. I can't think on another MMORPG that have joyed me that much. WoW is definitely recommended.
Now I play Savage 2, this is also developed for Linux. Try it out it's free. ;)

[Dawei87]

final fantasy xi. final fantasy xi! FINAL FANTASY XI!!
sorry for the caps. i got excited....

and soon, final fantasy xiv will be here!

[λΩ4]

Life.

[Kez101]

Runes of Magic, no question. Awesome game, and free to play.

[kttyshadow5]

I vote Exteel, not THE best, but it hasn't been mentioned yet ;)

[CrazyMonkeyFox]

Eve-online. You must have ooodles of patience though. Otherwise one of the better MMO's by far.

[Naiki Muliaina]

Well guys I just orderd my computer upgrades and I'm trying to decide what Top notch Online rpg to play.
I'm an old school Asheron's call player Then moved to WOW I'm board with that now.
Whats next?
Off the top my head LOTR online seems to be the top contender.
Ne thoughts?

MMORPGS played In order
Asheron's call
everquest
DAOC
Asheron's call 2 ( bomb'd out )
Guild wars
WOW ( all expansions )

I've tried mostly all of the newer Free to play RPG's as well and Even tho there not that bad They just aren't refined as the P2P games.

Blah, no Linux games ^^ My best MMO's are all linux native. Dofus and Second Life mainly. Both of which i would recomend. Second Life has some awesome RP sims ands combat sims (is also free). Dofus is cheap as chips and quite a well populated game.

If your after a new MMO to play try UGA's MMO section, or my blogs MMO list. Links provided,

My blogs MMO list http://naiux.wordpress.com/linux-mmorpgs/

UGA's MMO list http://gwos.org/doku.php/games:mmorpg

[nw2001]

World of Warcraft.

I hate to play it, I hate to quit it, No game compares.

[arcdrag]

final fantasy xi. final fantasy xi! FINAL FANTASY XI!!
sorry for the caps. i got excited....

and soon, final fantasy xiv will be here!

I'm actually incredibly excited about FFXIV. I loved everything about FFXI except for the fact that if my friends weren't online I couldn't really play. Supposedly there will be more to do by yourself in FFXIV from what I've read.

[donkyhotay]

puzzle pirates, and it's even linux native! Course it's nothing like most other MMORPG's and won't help someone going through WoW withdrawal.

[GirlofTime]

Everquest (up to velious) and Vanguard (before sony started butchering it)

[Azuu]

MYTHOS!
runner ups:
Ragnarök Online
tabula rasa
guild wars

But the RPG itself never truly matters, it's the people that make you want to stay.

I was expecting trolling here though, guess I don't need this :popcorn:

[nefrin]

+1 for EVE Online.

They have discontinued their Linux Client (which really wasn't that good to begin with), but it runs very well under WINE (well enough to run two seperate clients at once with no lag).

I'm sitting at work right now, but am browsing the Savage 2 website based on advice here in the forums, and thinking that I am going to give it a try when I get home.

[Kibble-n-Bits]

I know I'll probably get burned at the stake for saying this, but if you want to play a quality MMORPG, don't go with anything that is native to Linux/Ubuntu. While they each have their (very vocal) advocates, the truth is that they simply cannot compare to what is currently on the Windows market in terms of gameplay, graphical level and content.

I quite agree with you that Lord Of The Rings is the top contender. It's a very, very well-made MMORPG and you will lose years off of your life playing it. Sadly, to my knowledge, this great game cannot be played under Ubuntu.

If you are strictly looking for roleplaying communities, I would highly recommend checking out Second Life. While it's not a 'game' per se, I have personally had more fun actually roleplaying in there than most other MMORPG's....which is kinda silly when you think about it, but there it is.

Hope this helps,

Inkpot

I have no desire to burn you at a stake. Beating with a chain may be an option to consider at a later date. But you do raise a valid point, and with that point, a valid question.

Why are there so few native Linux MMORPGs?

Most of the big MMO games run on Linux servers. There are a few that don't but most do, and the ones that don't, generally do use Linux for the login servers.

Linux is, and has been since it's very beginning, a network intensive OS. It is all about communication and cooperation.

I just ask why it is, that the wonderful minds who gave us this free OS, who on a daily basis, support it, have not given us a native MMORPG.

Maybe they need our help?

I'm no programmer; not by a long shot. But I can do a little coding in about a dozen languages. I would love to help if some real programmers would like to take up the challenge.

There are probably a few thousand like me.

Is there a real programmer in the Linux community that has time to step up to the challenge of trying to build a native MMORPG that the Linux community could be proud of?

Is there a company out there that could spare the bandwidth and space to make it happen?

Like so many Linux users; I'm just raising the questions.

Kibble

[nefrin]

Is there a real programmer in the Linux community that has time to step up to the challenge of trying to build a native MMORPG that the Linux community could be proud of?

Is there a company out there that could spare the bandwidth and space to make it happen?

Like so many Linux users; I'm just raising the questions.

Kibble

I, too, would like to see something of this caliber. Unfortunately, I don't think it will happen for a long time.

I think that a lot of developers keep away from Linux because of the open source traditions that it upholds. Everything is made available to everyone.

Let's face it, in order to run a successful MMORPG, money has to exchange hands. If you want to see something on the caliber of World of Warcraft for native Linux, then it's going to be a monthly fee.

Gotta keep the servers running.
Gotta pay the people who keep the servers running.
Gotta pay the people who think up new ideas to put on the running servers.
Etc, etc, etc.

Personally, I wouldn't mind paying it, but creating a free open source MMO and charging people for it just rubs some users the wrong way.

And speaking from experience of volunteering personal time and effort to an online group project: those that don't donate time just take everything you give and then demand more, making it a thankless job that no one wants.

[EdAmado]

I played Ultima Online most of my young life, and then I went to WoW. I still think that UO is better than WoW though...

[compiledkernel]

If we are talking free

http://gwos.org/doku.php/games:alphabetical:p:planeshift
http://gwos.org/doku.php/games:alphabetical:s:stendhal

non-free
http://gwos.org/doku.php/games:alphabetical:c:celetania
http://gwos.org/doku.php/games:alphabetical:v:vendetta_online

[Lightstar]

in my own favorite order:

Final Fantasy XI - Totally awesome storyline, very nice job/classes.
[ subscription payments ]

Everquest - (1 was better, 2 is nice, can do most of the good stuff as a duo with a friend)
[ subscription payments ]

Requiem Bloodymare - Just because it's a full mature mmorpg with heads rolling.
[ Free to Play ]

Perfect World - I love having the ability to freely fly around so early in the game.
[ Free to Play ]

Second Life - I don't consider it a game, but it's a mmo(insert what you want). There's alot of roleplaying, alot of socializing, alot of 3D / texture building, great people, great friends, alot of porn.
[ Kinda free, you'll see when you try it ]

I can't wait for Final Fantasy XIV, hopefully it wont require hours of group-searching to do stuff.

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To reply to the posts above..
There will never be an open-source mmorpg of quality. Open source would open door to way too many exploits, way too easily done by way too many people. The game economy wouldn't last and it would end up being a game trashed.

What they need to do is just do the same games but compile them for linux, make a linux version of WoW, closed-source. Do the same for everquest, etc etc, and people will buy it and pay for it. If we would do a linux-only super-mmorpg, we wouldn't be any better than microsoft windows exclusive games.

[SerenityKill3r]

Nobody play Regnum Online?

[cb951303]

I was bored with WoW too and I got even more bored with anything I tried after quitting WoW (AoC, Warhammer and Eve)

I come to the conclusion that I'm bored with MMORPG in general and not just WoW. Have you considered that? :D

[LesterPalooza]

I know I'll probably get burned at the stake for saying this, but if you want to play a quality MMORPG, don't go with anything that is native to Linux/Ubuntu. While they each have their (very vocal) advocates, the truth is that they simply cannot compare to what is currently on the Windows market in terms of gameplay, graphical level and content.

I quite agree with you that Lord Of The Rings is the top contender. It's a very, very well-made MMORPG and you will lose years off of your life playing it. Sadly, to my knowledge, this great game cannot be played under Ubuntu.

If you are strictly looking for roleplaying communities, I would highly recommend checking out Second Life. While it's not a 'game' per se, I have personally had more fun actually roleplaying in there than most other MMORPG's....which is kinda silly when you think about it, but there it is.

Hope this helps,

Inkpot

+1 and +1 to "You will lose years of your life."

[kane77]

Nobody play Regnum Online?I do and I like it very much so far (just level 10) :)

[Pressondude]

I, too, would like to see something of this caliber. Unfortunately, I don't think it will happen for a long time.

I think that a lot of developers keep away from Linux because of the open source traditions that it upholds. Everything is made available to everyone.

Let's face it, in order to run a successful MMORPG, money has to exchange hands. If you want to see something on the caliber of World of Warcraft for native Linux, then it's going to be a monthly fee.

Gotta keep the servers running.
Gotta pay the people who keep the servers running.
Gotta pay the people who think up new ideas to put on the running servers.
Etc, etc, etc.

Personally, I wouldn't mind paying it, but creating a free open source MMO and charging people for it just rubs some users the wrong way.

And speaking from experience of volunteering personal time and effort to an online group project: those that don't donate time just take everything you give and then demand more, making it a thankless job that no one wants.

I agree with both of you, but I don't think it's entirely true. I'm sure if it was done carefully, and if the game was viable enough upon release, you could go on donations. Or even follow Runescape's (I know it sucks) example, have a fairly large free to play area, and then have the rest of the world for Premium Members, for a massive price of $5 a month....much less than any other game and generally worth it. I think that it's all about community, and about the game. I must say, as a player who started right after Runescape was invented, I loved the game for the decent community it had, and the unique gameplay. I left when the community died and the gameplay became too concerned with the suckish OpenGL graphics that will never work anyway.

So, the point of my ramble was, I would happily play a MUD, if the story and game was compelling, and the people were awesome. That's what makes DnD so compelling to me, a 16 year old with a decent gaming computer and access to all these graphical games. DnD v3.5 is my favorite game ever, bar none. I've been furiously trying to learn Java this summer, as a way to try to code some sort of suckish game, and maybe come up with a good enough idea that someone in this community could run with it. I think that we could easily create if not entirely open-source, at least a free game that is totally open to community suggestions. I believe that such a project could be a great undertaking, and would probably yield amazing results if there was enough effort involved....Maybe someone should start a new thread and we can ping ideas.

Back on topic, my favorite MMORPGs are (in no particular order): EVE, Runescape (before it was overcrowded), Guild Wars....downloading Runes of Magic now. Sounds cool

[daeiros]

I agree with the comment about being bored with MMORPGs in general. They just... they all seem like exactly the same thing now, after playing so many of them, guild wars, FF11, WoW, Lineage 2, Gate to Heaven, Florensia(actually the boat battles were something new and different), the list goes on and on and on and all that changes are the names, all the same skills, just one is called power fist and the other is mighty fist, and the other game calls it fists of steel, still the same move, power up unarmed combat, make your sword glow and hit a critcal, throw a(n) ice, fire, lightining, poisin, mud, non-descript glowing ball of something at someone. Hell even alot of the monster are the same from game to game, the items all of it. It just feels like they all are just reskinned, remapped, renamed, and rerealeased, and its getting reboring. It's like rushing out every year all excited to get this years copy of Madded NFL 2010 because 2009 just got boring, this one has new charecters and slightly higher resolutions, with better physics on the way the uniforms move, but its still THE SAME OLD GAME... What we really need is an MMO that brings something new to the table. Something that hasn't been done before, and I know thats hard, because everything has been done at this point, but making yet another robot clone of a dead horse so you can beat it long after the flesh of the original has rotted away is definetly a windows move because idiots will continue to shell out money for the same thing they bought last year. That is probably why there aren't any MMORPGs native to linux, because they want to make something new, and until inspiration strikes, why crank out another filler game? I absolutely hated FF11, because I've come to expect a certain level of creativity from Square, because I love nearly all of their games because they all have something new and different. FF7 had Materia, and then FF10 had the sphere grid, and just so many new and unique twists and cool battle systems, then, after all the hype over the greatest series of all time becoming and online game, I play it, and I see nothing spectacular, nothing new, nothing I had'nt seen a million times before, they crushed my dreams and drained my wallet, because this time their great new innovation was just... making it online, woo, yay. No new combat system, no specail leveling up system, just run across an endlessly huge world, kill things, then if you get bored with that, you can do quests which involve such exciting tasks as running across an endlessly huge world, and killing things... MMOs need CPR, and I think the linux community will be the ones to breathe new life into the series ultimately, but who knows when the next genuinely new idea will come along. It's the age of the sequels just look at the now playing list at your local theater and count how many of the titles end in "2" or "3" it's rather depressing.

[Pressondude]

agreed

[krow436]

Life.
I'm waiting for the 1.1.21.3 patch before I join rl.

[krow436]

Nobody play Regnum Online?
I was wondering when someone would mention it. I played Regnum for a while. My problem was that English speakers were few and far between, and I'm not exactly polished on my Portuguese... And playing an MMO by yourself kinda defeats the purpose.
Also, I ran into a funny little error that landed me on the debug island. I was sent back into the player world, but I had maxed level and a massive amount of gold and points to distribute. After that it kinda lost a little bit of fun lol.

[jprophet420]

the best MMO in my opinion is there is no best, it depends on what you like. I play WoW for PvE and GW for PvP and I love both of them on different levels.

Eve online is great, and once you establish your character you can pay for the game with in game money instead of real world money. The problem with that is Eve doesn't run well in Jaunty at all. It was my favorite MMO for a while but i dropped it when they drop linux support.

Ironically, the "how to make eve work on linux" thread at the eve forums made my WoW and GW run properly.

Oh, and DDO is planning on going 'free' soon. You will be able to have a basic character for free, and have to pay for all of the things anyone would really want.

[daeiros]

Yeah rl is a good game but I could really use the unlimited money cheat.

[tsuchang]

Well... I started playing Cowboys with my brother and sister about 60 years ago, but the BEST online game for me was Ever Quest.
You can still get the good stuff on that game if you play on the mac version. It doesn't have all the expansions because Sony quit supporting them for mac.
If you can get people to play it that way it is great. Heart stopping action and penalties for screwing up. You HATED dieing in that game. It was really, really a fun game to get mad at.
If there was another game like that I would play it.

Trying to get Ruens of Magic to work on my machine now as I'm soooo tired of WoW.

[Narcolepsy06]

I've tried a few F2P mmo's, and the one I liked the best was Shaiya. Unfortunately no linux port.

I just tried a character in Runes of Magic, and I didn't mind it for the first 15 minutes. Unfortunately my girlfriend doesn't like it...

Back to Shaiya it is :lolflag:

[Tibuda]

I know I'll probably get burned at the stake for saying this, but if you want to play a quality MMORPG, don't go with anything that is native to Linux/Ubuntu. While they each have their (very vocal) advocates, the truth is that they simply cannot compare to what is currently on the Windows market in terms of gameplay, graphical level and content.

...

If you are strictly looking for roleplaying communities, I would highly recommend checking out Second Life. While it's not a 'game' per se, I have personally had more fun actually roleplaying in there than most other MMORPG's....which is kinda silly when you think about it, but there it is.

First you say that Linux native games suck and then you suggest a game with a Linux version?

[Naiki Muliaina]

Second Life - I don't consider it a game, but it's a mmo(insert what you want). There's alot of roleplaying, alot of socializing, alot of 3D / texture building, great people, great friends, alot of porn.
[ Kinda free, you'll see when you try it ]

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To reply to the posts above..
There will never be an open-source mmorpg of quality. Open source would open door to way too many exploits, way too easily done by way too many people. The game economy wouldn't last and it would end up being a game trashed.


Second Life is open source ^^

[IridiumRE]

EVE used to be my time-waster of choice, but it can be hard to get into. Your best bet is to find a decent Clan/Corporation to join before you ever fire up the game. Otherwise you get stuck in the pubbie corporation until you can find a proper corp, and you want to slit your wrists constantly.

[wolfyking2]

Hmm, this thread caught my eye :) Anyways (PL0X DUN FLAME!) I really like Runescape. I know what you guys are thinking, but have any of you actually PLAYED runescape? The game has awesome quests, more skills than any other game I can imagine, you can be a archer/warrior/mage without actually CHOOSING to be one. I still play (sorta) and the game has gotten worse...Mainly because 1. Too many little kids playing (which is why I am waiting for Jagex's new "older demographic" MMO to come out) 2. They made the game worse with removing old wildy, no unfair trades. But, my favorite game ever is! *drum roll* .... Mabinogi! I am playing it again when we could our new computer :P Mabinogi rawks. I can't explain how, but it does. Oh, and their making a new game called 'Mabinogi Heroes' already out for Korea, might not come out for a while, but I reallllyyyy want to play it. Here are some gameplay videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys5h8JOd31s *this is mabinogi*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXvcNHk7EZo&feature=related *this is Mabinogi Heroes, which I realy really really reallly wanna play :P*

[Grishka]

Hmm, this thread caught my eye :) Anyways (PL0X DUN FLAME!) I really like Runescape. I know what you guys are thinking, but have any of you actually PLAYED runescape? The game has awesome quests, more skills than any other game I can imagine, you can be a archer/warrior/mage without actually CHOOSING to be one. I still play (sorta) and the game has gotten worse...Mainly because 1. Too many little kids playing (which is why I am waiting for Jagex's new "older demographic" MMO to come out) 2. They made the game worse with removing old wildy, no unfair trades. But, my favorite game ever is! *drum roll* .... Mabinogi! I am playing it again when we could our new computer :P Mabinogi rawks. I can't explain how, but it does. Oh, and their making a new game called 'Mabinogi Heroes' already out for Korea, might not come out for a while, but I reallllyyyy want to play it. Here are some gameplay videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys5h8JOd31s *this is mabinogi*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXvcNHk7EZo&feature=related *this is Mabinogi Heroes, which I realy really really reallly wanna play :P*

Mabinogi looks good. I never got to playing this one, gotta check it out.

edit: ahh, Nexon disallows European accounts, I love you guys! now, Korea or Taiwan...

[wolfyking2]

Yeah, I don't know why. That's basically losing sales, too me. Just my opinion ;)

[doorknob60]

Runescape :D :P

[AJB2K3]

May sound daft but is there one you don't have to pay to play?

[ExSuSEusr]

WoW is the pop music of the gaming industry - it's telling when a 9 year old can "game" their way to level 80 and through end game content. The game is sorry excuse for an MMO. It's laughable at best. BUT, Blizzard has mastered the art of marketing. What makes WoW so popular isn't the stellar graphics (note my sarcasm), or it's challenging content (more sacrasm there) - but the fact you can't walk into an electronics store, open a magazine, turn on the TV without hearing, seeing or reading a freaking ad for this joke of a game. Whether it's Cpt. Kirk telling you about his shaman (that's he's probably played once for about 2 minutes) or a cool looking magazine ad (that looks nothing like the crappy and hooky game graphics) works.

I get a laugh out of people who call themselves "gamers" and then admit the one game they play is WoW... LOL.

Anyway, some very good titles have been listed already.

EQ II and EVE are my MMOs.

I cut my teeth, back in the day, on Team Fortress for Quake I, Quake II, the original Half Life (remember how buggy that thing was?), so on...

[ElSlunko]

I'm liking Aion. Performance sucks in Wine at the moment so I have to use windows to play it, but other than that I haven't had too much issue with it.

[coldReactive]

What one of those is free to play out of the op's list?

[crohakon]

Dawn of the Ages <--- Google it =)

[LoloftheRings]

life.
+1

[FaustZA]

The Chronicles of Spellborn is quite good, runes of magic not bad, and Dungeonrunner was a riot:
http://spellborn.acclaim.com/
http://www.runesofmagic.com/en/freetoplay/index.html
http://www.dungeonrunners.com/

[cprofitt]

people who think up new ideas to put on the running servers.
Etc, etc, etc.

Personally, I wouldn't mind paying it, but creating a free open source MMO and charging people for it just rubs some users the wrong way.

They could make the client and server -- give out the client and server -- charge for connecting to their service and it should be all good. Other people could, if they wanted, put up their own server -- but that might be a bit dull.

[Grenage]

I loved EQ with a passion, it ate my life. Alas, every MMO since has been too easy and not that entertaining. I think your first real MMO tends to the only one you'll ever really fall for deeply.

[ExSuSEusr]

I loved EQ with a passion, it ate my life. Alas, every MMO since has been too easy and not that entertaining. I think your first real MMO tends to the only one you'll ever really fall for deeply.


WTS YaK in back of EC tunnel PST!!!!

[johnboy1313]

KOTOR, and its not even out yet, that's how much faith i have in bioware!
as nerdy as it might be I dug FFXI alot too

[Grenage]

WTS YaK in back of EC tunnel PST!!!!

Lol! Trade you a CSS and 10 bat ears?

EC was amazing... then came the bazaar :(

[johnboy1313]

WoW is the pop music of the gaming industry - it's telling when a 9 year old can "game" their way to level 80 and through end game content. The game is sorry excuse for an MMO. It's laughable at best. BUT, Blizzard has mastered the art of marketing. What makes WoW so popular isn't the stellar graphics (note my sarcasm), or it's challenging content (more sacrasm there) - but the fact you can't walk into an electronics store, open a magazine, turn on the TV without hearing, seeing or reading a freaking ad for this joke of a game. Whether it's Cpt. Kirk telling you about his shaman (that's he's probably played once for about 2 minutes) or a cool looking magazine ad (that looks nothing like the crappy and hooky game graphics) works.

I get a laugh out of people who call themselves "gamers" and then admit the one game they play is WoW... LOL.

Anyway, some very good titles have been listed already.

EQ II and EVE are my MMOs.

I cut my teeth, back in the day, on Team Fortress for Quake I, Quake II, the original Half Life (remember how buggy that thing was?), so on...

your right wow is the pop music of the industry but at the same time you cant argue the success of the game or the loyalty of its players. its no doubt the most successful mmo of all-time and possibly one of the most successful games of all time

[ExSuSEusr]

your right wow is the pop music of the industry but at the same time you cant argue the success of the game or the loyalty of its players. its no doubt the most successful mmo of all-time and possibly one of the most successful games of all time


What makes it popular isn't the stellar graphics, game play or anything else along those lines. What makes it popular is the brilliant marketing by Blizzard.

I've never seen an Everquest II commerical, an EVE commercial, a DAoC, or AoC commercial. I have, however, seen more WoW commercials that I could ever stomach.

Magazines, TV spots, radio adds, pop up windows, Internet adverstising.

The reason WoW is so popular is because it's the only "mmo" most people have heard of.

Everquest II is exponentially more superior to WoW in every regard. I would be bet money that if Sony invested the type of money that Blizzard did/does in advertising EQ II would stomp Wow into the mud in terms of subscriptions.

I'm sure on some level such is why WoW is a pathetic failure with its cartoon graphics, simple-minded (laughable) quests and purely "hands off' play style - and it's utter lack of content. All their money goes into advertising and not game development. EQ II has been out just as long as WoW and it already has what... twice the content? Better graphics, tougher quests, more challenging experiences, so on and so on.

Yes, I hate WoW with a passion. Stupidest game of the MMOs by far. I detest anything 'pop culture' and WoW is pop culture seeping into MY world.

[johnboy1313]

Yes, I hate WoW with a passion. Stupidest game of the MMOs by far. I detest anything 'pop culture' and WoW is pop culture seeping into MY world.

I like the cut of your jibb sir.
I don't know if i would go as far as that but i like you opinion on the subject matter.

[Sindwiller]

I'm a cultural elitist (not the one who summons ochlocrazy before society's eyes, but the one who's into jazz and stuff). EVE is an elitist game. We're made for eachother :D

[ExSuSEusr]

Nothing is more elitist than running around in a fictious world pretending to be a dark elf wielding a mythical sword slaying orcs and answering questions with "aye."

I use it to pick up chicks. "hey baby I'm a level 80 elf..." insta-lay I promise.

[johnboy1313]

I have actually used that line before, I got lucky, the girl was into reading Salvatore books. Surprisingly she turned out to be kind of strange.

[mr clark25]

im my mind, i think runescape is the best. it takes some time to get fun, and when you become a "member" for $5.95 US it gets even funner.

[Naiki Muliaina]

Hmm old thread...

*waves his SecondLife banner again* Best MMO! :D

[handy]

I've been playing Guild Wars for nearly 4 years.

I must admit that I'm seriously looking forward to the release of GW2.

There are nowhere near as many players in GW these days, which makes it harder to find someone to join, or to join you, in many parts of the game.

It also makes it harder to buy items that you require or sell those that you have acquired.

GW is still a great game to play, providing you have hero's in your team. Therefore I recommend anyone who is starting out in GW, should start with the Nightfall campaign, as it is a good world to play in & it is where Hero's joined the game.

With Hero's you can complete most, if not all of the game by yourself.

After Nightfall I would recommend the Prophecies (the original) campaign. It is my favourite, but has no Hero's, though you can bring them from Nightfall.

Factions is the least liked campaign by GW players. It is most suited to PvP type players, & is mostly a quite ugly world.

Another very valuable point in GW favour, is that you pay, once per campaign. In Oz dollars it costs about $70- per campaign. Compared to the costs of playing WoW, for example; this is chicken feed.

[johnboy1313]

I've been playing Guild Wars for nearly 4 years.

I must admit that I'm seriously looking forward to the release of GW2.

There are nowhere near as many players in GW these days, which makes it harder to find someone to join, or to join you, in many parts of the game.

It also makes it harder to buy items that you require or sell those that you have acquired.

GW is still a great game to play, providing you have hero's in your team. Therefore I recommend anyone who is starting out in GW, should start with the Nightfall campaign, as it is a good world to play in & it is where Hero's joined the game.

With Hero's you can complete most, if not all of the game by yourself.

After Nightfall I would recommend the Prophecies (the original) campaign. It is my favourite, but has no Hero's, though you can bring them from Nightfall.

Factions is the least liked campaign by GW players. It is most suited to PvP type players, & is mostly a quite ugly world.

Another very valuable point in GW favour, is that you pay, once per campaign. In Oz dollars it costs about $70- per campaign. Compared to the costs of playing WoW, for example; this is chicken feed.

i liked guild wars alot with the exception of the low level cap (if i remember right it capped at 20).

[handy]

i liked guild wars alot with the exception of the low level cap (if i remember right it capped at 20).

Yes it is capped at 20, but it gets a little more complicated by each time that you gain enough experience points to gain another level after you are at level 20, you still get a point, which you need when you buy certain items, such as skills, signets of capture & such. All of these cost gold & a point.

Also, in the Eye of the North expansion, which was only open to level 20 players, (it has since been opened to level 10, they get a buff, so that they can survive there) there are more ways to increase the players powers, with powerful skills attained & level increases for those skill via attaining rewards.

[johnboy1313]

when is gw2 coming out?

[handy]

when is gw2 coming out?

Have a search on the web?

Next year sometime I expect.

[TheTank]

Depends on your definition of MMORPG, but here are mine:

GuildWars:
Pay once (for each expansion also) but play for free until the shut down the servers.
Price wise it is a LOT cheaper then the monthly rates.
Needs wine to run, but runs very well on it.

Neverwinter Nights:
A little old but has a native client and you might still find some persistent worlds online.

Dungeon Runners:
Simple hack&slay dungeon crawler but can be fun and with a good sense of humor.
Cheap (there was a 6 months for €15 offer and you got a bling gnome as well)
Needs Wine and has it's issues, yet very playable.

[coldReactive]

- Angels Online -
Free to Play,
Expensive Item Mall,
Hard To Level At Times,
2D Graphics with some 3D-ish effects,
Needs Wine - Cannot Update Via Updater, need to apply patch manually or reinstall completely - Otherwise, runs well.

[MasterNetra]

Anarchy Online - Takes probably about a year to get to level 200. You level fast starting out yes but it really starts slowing down after lvl 20.

Nothing is more elitist than running around in a fictious world pretending to be a dark elf wielding a mythical sword slaying orcs and answering questions with "aye."

I use it to pick up chicks. "hey baby I'm a level 80 elf..." insta-lay I promise.

Insta-lay is nothing to brag about. From what I hear chicks prefer it to be more time consuming.

[johnboy1313]

been playing evony online today, dont waste your time

[Windows Nerd]

Go ahead, diss it's graphics (which by the way are a lot better now than they used to be a couple years ago), but Runescape. I played it for 3 years now, not so much currently due to other things in my life. Though the company has taken some extreme measures to combat Real-World-Trading and took out many people's favorite part of the game, many newer players are attracted to it because they just never had that part in the first place. It has a massive amount of content, with new content released every week almost, and has very nice players, especially on the P2P servers (which run Linux, an added bonus). Its gameplay mechanics are strong and addicting, though still runs up short on the high-quality graphics. Did I mention it runs as a browser applet? It works in any OS because of that as long as it has Java. No huge game to download, nothing.

Pardon my somewhat hard to follow recommendation, but the game is full of good memories for me.

[kamohammed]

Now learning to play Aion. Pretty cool. But IMO, my favs are

Lineage 2
Guildwars
Lunia
and well Aion...

[PhotonicGuy]

World of Warcraft - because WoW mixes the right amount of depth and simplicity better than any other game.

The second in my opinion is City of Heroes/City of Villains

[Thoringian Penguin]

Regnum Online.
F2P and runs natively on Linux, from Argentinia :P

[Ajs47951]

LOTR I play it all the time
Runescape "don't play it any more"

[Carpentr]

Recently it has been announced that Lord Of the Rings Online is going free to play. You have the choice of buying a "VIP" subscription to unlock the full game, or you can play for free with limited access to content and unlock it using an item shop.
http://www.lotro.com/news/709-announcing-the-lord-of-the-rings-onlines-move-to-free-to-play-

Personally I play WWII Online: Battleground Europe. It's a MMOFPS. It's really fun in my opinion and works great under wine if you use the instructions in their forum.
http://www.battlegroundeurope.com/

[llawwehttam]

Has to be eve-online for me. Great fun to play, but its best if you start playing with some friends or it can get boring.

[Cam!]

Has to be eve-online for me. Great fun to play, but its best if you start playing with some friends or it can get boring.

Is EVE still subscription-based?

[Zanthir]

I used to play ROM, and loved how the decissions early on affected your character permanently, like giving you more hp/mana/practice sessions based on stats/EQ you have while leveling. That, and the simultaneous casual, friendly nature of the game. In otherwords, you could have an elite character, but still get along with a noob, group, go fight, and have fun.

Based on this, any recomendations for me?

[Naiki Muliaina]

Native to Linux?

Second Life
Dofus
Ryzom

Other good MMO's...

The original Dreamcast Phantasy Star Onlines

On Windows...

Ultima
Guildwares

[slave-zeo]

Nobody play Regnum Online?

Yeah, I've tried it. They've done wonderful things with it recently in terms of graphics and over all game play. It used to be kinda generic looking. But since they hired some artists it's really nice.

It's linux native with 32-bit and 64-bit versions. Free to play with a premium item store. Not bad at all, really.

[Mechafish]

ArmageddonMUD is my favorite, I'm better off with text-bases games.

[Chameco]

Kingdom of Loathing (http://www.kingdomofloathing.com). Browser based, text based goodness.

[Death_Incarnate]

kk people i want to ask for some good MMORPG out for Ubuntu something like runescape or WoW but no tibia or ragnum plz (links would be nice) also something with low requirements im using a laptop :p :twisted:

[Naiki Muliaina]

Runescape works on Linux..... Just install the java browser plug-in from Synaptic and you should be away...

As for links, see the top line of my sig.

Runescape, Ryzom, Dofus and Vendetta are the good commercial MMO's on Linux.

[Naegling23]

It all depends on what your looking for in an MMORPG....strict DnD, something different like space? A good community? A time sink? a casual game?

I played WoW for 3 years when it first came out, great community, beautiful graphics (maybe not high end, but the artwork is at least top notch). I had a lot of fun with that game....but then I bought a house...then I had a kid...WoW is not the type of game that can be played 1 hour a night, or once every couple of months or so...its like a second job.

So, for me, guild wars is great. I dont have to pay a monthly fee since I might go months at a time without playing. I dont have to log on and sit there for 2 hours trying to get a group together (you can hire henchmen/henchwomen). Since all of the combat zones are instanced, I also dont have to worry about waiting for respawns, or any of the other combat problems.

NWN persistant worlds are also fun if you like the strict DnD no hand holding thing, but they tend to move very slowly, so you end up fighting the same little segment over and over again until you are strong enough to move to the next one, and repeat....there are fewer quests, and less exploration...still a decent experience.

I redownloaded regnum online. I've tried it in the past, but never got into it (too bland), im hoping some of the recent tech updates make it a better game, but I'm also worried about the affect of real world money upsetting the game balance.

[Death_Masta187]

Best paid (monthly fee) that I played was City of Heroes
Best free to play (no monthly fee) guild wars.

[Rusty023]

I'm very surprised no-one's mentioned Progress Quest. Best MMO of all time.

But seriously, Guild Wars was great, unfortunately the community is rather small with GW2 approaching, and I'm Aussie, so the minority of the minority means I don't get to play with no-one :-(

I played WoW on and off for 3 years...it's good for wasting time, but so boring, and has so little skill involved. It used to be decent, but now it's just trash, and I kinda blame Activision, but anyway.

Right now I'm completely captivated by Vendetta Online, it's such a great game. If you want a MMO that actually requires *gasp* skill, go check it out. There are levels (which mean pretty much nothing as you level fast and everything in the game is available crazy-fast), money (which is there pretty much just for hoarding), and gear (which, as I said, is cheap and available really soon. The twitch system and they way things are available means that the only grind is that of your skill.

Nothing is more fun than getting with some pilots from your guild in that game, flying together and wrecking stuff.

[Hexster71FD]

I've wasted a lot of money trying just about every new MMO that's come out after WoW. So far I'm still a WoW player after 5 years. It does get boring, but it's still the best around.

I'll admit tho, I haven't tried LotRO yet. It may be worth trying it when/now that it's Free 2 Play.

I'm kinda doing other things until Cataclysm comes out.

[Josey]

I know I'll probably get burned at the stake for saying this, but if you want to play a quality MMORPG, don't go with anything that is native to Linux/Ubuntu. While they each have their (very vocal) advocates, the truth is that they simply cannot compare to what is currently on the Windows market in terms of gameplay, graphical level and content.

I quite agree with you that Lord Of The Rings is the top contender. It's a very, very well-made MMORPG and you will lose years off of your life playing it. Sadly, to my knowledge, this great game cannot be played under Ubuntu.

If you are strictly looking for roleplaying communities, I would highly recommend checking out Second Life. While it's not a 'game' per se, I have personally had more fun actually roleplaying in there than most other MMORPG's....which is kinda silly when you think about it, but there it is.

Hope this helps,

Inkpot

Lord of the Rings and DDO can both be made to work in linux, I'm too lazy to write a guide but I got DDO working perfectly in Ubuntu and I assume LOTR works just as well. http://www.lotrolinux.com/download.php

[Trizzy]

Best ever was Ultima Online, without a doubt. I roleplayed on that game for years. Then they released <insert new game content here> and ruined it! After the AoS update the game began to get way to laggy, even with DSL internet. So I left the Origin shards and turned to free shards, and have NO regrets! UO is the game I find myself re-installing at least twice a year.

As for other favorites.. I've been playing tibia off and on since 1999. It's an addicting game if you can get past the 2d graphics. I've played a LOT of other MMO's, but the only others I feel are worth mentioning are Shadowbane and Dransik. Dransik is old but it was a great time.

As for WoW... I played for about two weeks. I absolutely refused to pay money for that ridiculous cartoon masquerading as a MMO.

[martialartist81]

I quite agree with you that Lord Of The Rings is the top contender. It's a very, very well-made MMORPG and you will lose years off of your life playing it. Sadly, to my knowledge, this great game cannot be played under Ubuntu. Inkpot

GREAT GREAT GAME! However, you can play in Ubuntu. Doing a quick search for "LOTRO Linux" will bring up how to get it up and running. Takes a lot of tinkering, but you're able to play the game well. And now that it's Free to Play, you're at the very least, able to get into the game, play up to about level 15 or so before needing to make a purchase in the store (for the next set of quest packs, however, you don't have to spend real money for points, you earn points as you complete achievements in game).

http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/LOTRO_under_Linux_and_Mac_OS/X

My $0.02

[rCiv]

Consider EVE online, it runs on Linux perfectly, its BEAUTIFUL!! check out the screeshots www.eveonline.com (http://www.eveonline.com) it is sci-fi tho, and you have to like spaceships and lasers >>pewpew ... pvp is insane, and usualy climaxes in 1000 player VS 1000 player alliance wars for entire regions of space, everyone plays on the same realm, 400k + players, well over 20k systems to visit and conquer/call home, wormhole systems that apear in one system and disapear 16 hours later and reopen in a completely different region of space qwhich you can live in, use to travel, hunt in... stealth ops, cloaking devices lasers torpedos zomgz!

[rCiv]

Consider EVE online, it runs on Linux perfectly, its BEAUTIFUL!! check out the screeshots www.eveonline.com (http://www.eveonline.com) it is sci-fi tho, and you have to like spaceships and lasers >>pewpew ... pvp is insane, and usualy climaxes in 1000 player VS 1000 player alliance wars for entire regions of space, everyone plays on the same realm, 400k + players, well over 20k systems to visit and conquer/call home, wormhole systems that apear in one system and disapear 16 hours later and reopen in a completely different region of space qwhich you can live in, use to travel, hunt in... stealth ops, cloaking devices lasers torpedos zomgz!


PS you are free to be as notorious or carebear as you want, scams are in effect, you can steal peoples stuff and its their fault, when you pop someone you get their gear from the wreckage, bounty system so if sonmeone pisses you off you just put money on their head and laugh as professional pvp bounty hunters rape him accdross the universe and never let him go on with playing the game until he is dead. tons of professions, open ended character architecture, Exploration, science, manufacturing, mining, Combat pilot, Trader, all the politics within the game are entirely player run, faction elections are held and winners get trips to Iceland to meet the company execs and interface with developers to bring players wishes to life.

but i digress, do yourself a favor and checkuout the videos/pictures

[Davor Posavec]

You can play WoW on private servers like WoW Molten. It's 100% free.
Runes of Magic
Allods Online
You can play every game for free on a private server. But for me Allods Online is 100% free and
it's better then all the other MMO RPG'S

[buzzmandt]

Gotta throw my 2 cents in here, dungeons and dragons online works great in (k)ubuntu. you need pylotro to run it but ddo is free now. just check http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19448 and follow the directions and you're set.