people that want to run window within ubuntu

[smitty423]

With my experiences with with all of the different versions of Linux i found that Ubuntu is the best been using it for a couple of years now i visit allot of different forums that talk about Ubuntu and the last one i visited a certain person did a install but didn't want to use a user name and pass and had boot issues and not being able to get on he also want to run windows within ubuntu my question to him was why do you want to do that? stupidity i guess
If you use ubuntu that should be enough adding windows within another system isn't a good idea in any circumstances .
To all as far as im concerned ubuntu should be the only thing on your machine and not a windows product in any case micro softs run with vista should be the case example for all to know what not to use and what problem you might have if you do. [-(

[LiamWilson]

I run XP in virtualbox sometimes, simply if i want to run a game, or an App for school that is incompatible with wine. Other than that, i have no need for it!

[donato roque]

When I first tried Ubuntu (2007: Edgy eft,6.10), I have a dual
boot with Windows XP. After a month, I re partitioned my hard
drive to accomodate Feisty Fawn 7.04, and my /home folder. I said
goodbye to any Microsoft products. I am glad about that decision.
Open source is the way to go.

Several weeks ago, I tried this website that evaluates your firewall
and security status called shields up. Linux security is the best
and most secure without adding third party AV or firewall that adds
to windows load and hogs valuable resource from the cpu. I know
from experience about how secure Ubuntu Linux is and how it balances
Security, Usability and Open source concerns in its implementation
of Ubuntu.

What won me over from windows to Linux is Security. A Secure OS.
What won me over to Ubuntu out of the many available distros is the
Community.

Donato

[chriskin]

With my experiences with with all of the different versions of Linux i found that Ubuntu is the best been using it for a couple of years now i visit allot of different forums that talk about Ubuntu and the last one i visited a certain person did a install but didn't want to use a user name and pass and had boot issues and not being able to get on he also want to run windows within ubuntu my question to him was why do you want to do that? stupidity i guess
If you use ubuntu that should be enough adding windows within another system isn't a good idea in any circumstances .
To all as far as im concerned ubuntu should be the only thing on your machine and not a windows product in any case micro softs run with vista should be the case example for all to know what not to use and what problem you might have if you do. [-(


i have to disagree
many people find some windows apps good, and many find it stupid to reboot for just an app
virtual box is a must, even if i use i rarely these days - linux goes only so far on some subjects


also, please avoid the whole "anti-microsoft" state of mind, it is really bad. if you don't try all the options, and get the idea that linux is better, you are not really a linux fan, just a follower

[3rdalbum]

I don't dual-boot anymore, but I did for a while. I wanted to still be able to use my MP3 player while I saved up to buy a Linux-compatible one, and I wanted to still be able to edit video and author DVDs until Linux-based programs improved to the point of actually working :-)

Keeping Windows, either dual-booted or virtualised, does help some people to transition to Linux over time. Rather than have to work out everything all at once and get really frustrated, they can gradually work out each little difference from Windows to Linux, until they are 100% Linux.

[3rdalbum]

(sorry-double-post)

[smitty423]

Just to be clear to all i wasn't always anti Microsoft when i got my first machine it had xp on it. it was the changed to vista that change my views about Microsoft after a long and useless attempt to get support from Microsoft and the maker for my machine i got my hands on a ubuntu disk and never looked back as being labeled anti Microsoft now you can say that's the case that company all it wants is to make money and make it's third party suppliers richer people in the open source community don't seem to think that way and im glad for it if my views bother some to bad if you went through what i did you might think the same way. [-X

[donato roque]

many people find some windows apps good, and many find it stupid to reboot for just an app
virtual box is a must, even if i use i rarely these days - linux goes only so far on some subjects

Straddling the line between two OSes is limiting you from exploring the
vast number of alternative applications in linux. What is preventing
your progress is inertia nothing more. There are alternatives to non-free
softwares.

also, please avoid the whole "anti-microsoft" state of mind, it is really bad. if you don't try all the options, and get the idea that linux is better, you are not really a linux fan, just a follower

Linux is not a perfect operating system. No OS is perfect. My views
about Microsoft is not a "state of mind".;)

I have tried all the options- I started using Windows 95, Windows 98,
Windows 2000, Windows XP in a regular basis up until 2006.

Linux has come a long way since it's "guru" days.

I think that you should cut and cut clean.

[longtom]

I think that you should cut and cut clean.

:roll::roll::roll:

Get real...it is an OS we are talking about - not drug addiction...:p

[dawynn]

Last I checked, not everything came ready for Linux. Problem is that Linux currently has apps for whatever each of the contributors has a need for. Unfortunately, that means 100 different text editors, and several instances of completely missing niche apps.

Let's look at the field a bit. This is just from my own experiences:
NetMD mini-disk software: Missing. Windows version kept updated by Sony, but they don't supply a Linux variant (last I checked).

US Tax Preparation Software: Missing. Haven't seen any financial software companies yet that want to build this yearly software for Linux.

For that matter, I haven't seen any professional financial software for Linux (I haven't checked GnuCash lately). And the state of home financial software is sad in Linux. GnuCash exists, but once you convert your finances in from Quicken, it doesn't like to export (again, last I checked a few years ago). KMyMoney2, as I recall, is able to convert from GnuCash, but not back. And GnuCash can't convert from KMyMoney2. I've seen a few other money packages, but again, all the money software in Linux seems to try its best to ignore all the other players. What if I have years of data in one package, and want to switch to another? For the most part, you have to switch to Quicken format in order to facilitate such a move. What a royal pain! At least MS Money and Quicken recognize each other.

Decent games: Missing for several areas. Saw a recent series of articles that praised the amount of games in Linux, then went on to talk about the major players. Sure, there are quite a few small games, but other than that the field was completely dominated by first person shooters. RPG's? Forget about it. Neverwinter Nights saw heavy support from the Linux community, including several major servers, but NWN2 went the Windows only route. I haven't seen much beyond that for free or commercial RPG's in Linux.

Itunes software: Hmm. A group of hardy souls took it upon themselves a few years back to build Itunes compatible software. Upon doing so, they found some glitches in the way Itunes protected its downloads. They notified Apple. The response? Apple put out an immediate new release of their Itunes software that made the Linux software completely incompatible. Evidently, Apple was afraid of gaining any money from Linux Itunes users. I'm not aware of any new replacement software -- and should such software be built by anyone other than Apple, I assume the same response will happen.

Graphical Design: Oh sure, we have Gimp. That will get most home photographers what they need. But, as many will agree, it is no Photoshop. And is Photoshop even the best tool for professional graphical design? Sorry, most of my graphical design friends are devoted to their Macs.

Branch out into other fields. Have you seen any farm management software in the repositories? Same could be said about a number of different occupations. We just don't have the niche software. And very few of the companies that build software for niche markets offer Linux versions.

If you can find what you need to satisfy your desires within the Linux community -- great for you. But there are plenty of examples where Linux software is lacking. Instead of shutting our ears and yelling that Linux already has everything that anyone needs, listen to what is still needed. Wine isn't perfect, but it helps. With Virtualbox and similar tools, at least everything is surrounded by the secure, safe Linux environment.

Let's welcome new users into the community and help them find the tools they need to switch, as the Linux software base continues to grow. Even if that means helping them find ways to run Windows programs within Linux.

[brendend]

also, please avoid the whole "anti-microsoft" state of mind, it is really bad. if you don't try all the options, and get the idea that linux is better, you are not really a linux fan, just a follower
Some people just want to avoid proprietary software like the plague. Read almost anything by Richard Stallman and you will understand. Sometimes it's not about better, it's about principles and morals.

[chriskin]

Some people just want to avoid proprietary software like the plague. Read almost anything by Richard Stallman and you will understand. Sometimes it's not about better, it's about principles and morals.

you failed to understand what i am saying, almost to the extent of being 100% out of topic :)

i said that bashing microsoft is not out goal but Understanding those principles and morals you said and Choosing Linux for that reason. Thus, what i said is the same thing Richard Stallman himself said.
Taking the liberty to almost quote him , he said in an interview something like "having more people to join GNU/Linux is not really what is needed, having our users understand why GNU/Linux is better is."

[abjt]

Last I checked, not everything came ready for Linux. Problem is that Linux currently has apps for whatever each of the contributors has a need for. Unfortunately, that means 100 different text editors, and several instances of completely missing niche apps.

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Let's welcome new users into the community and help them find the tools they need to switch, as the Linux software base continues to grow. Even if that means helping them find ways to run Windows programs within Linux.

Completely agree with your view... infact find it refreshing and honest.

[lisati]

I dual-boot Windows and Vista on my laptop, because it suits me to do so. I use some video editing software which does most of what I want that I paid good moeny for, and, sadly, it doesn't come in a Linux-friendly version, and doesn't run in Wine (the one and only time I tried installing it via Wine things didn't go so well). I opted for dual-boot over vritualbox for reasons of efficiency.

It's up to each of us to make up our own minds and to use what works for us.

[longtom]

I dual-boot Windows and Vista on my laptop,..

Now - that I would consider as "taking the love for Microsoft to far"...

Try Linux - maybe Ubuntu. You'll love it...:p:D

[Sef]

Moved to Community Cafe.

[Bachstelze]

To all as far as im concerned ubuntu should be the only thing on your machine and not a windows product in any case micro softs run with vista should be the case example for all to know what not to use and what problem you might have if you do. [-(

Just who do you think you are to tell me (or ayone else) what I should run on my machine? I have run Vista for over six months (now switched to 7) and never got any problem with it. If you did, the problem was most likely on your end, not Vista's.

This is RD material, by the way...