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Pogeymanz
June 4th, 2009, 02:40 PM
http://www.freeculture.org

Manifesto

"The mission of the Free Culture movement is to build a bottom-up, participatory structure to society and culture, rather than a top-down, closed, proprietary structure. Through the democratizing power of digital technology and the Internet, we can place the tools of creation and distribution, communication and collaboration, teaching and learning into the hands of the common person — and with a truly active, connected, informed citizenry, injustice and oppression will slowly but surely vanish from the earth.

We believe that culture should be a two-way affair, about participation, not merely consumption. We will not be content to sit passively at the end of a one-way media tube. With the Internet and other advances, the technology exists for a new paradigm of creation, one where anyone can be an artist, and anyone can succeed, based not on their industry connections, but on their merit.

We refuse to accept a future of digital feudalism where we do not actually own the products we buy, but we are merely granted limited uses of them as long as we pay the rent. We must halt and reverse the recent radical expansion of intellectual property rights, which threaten to reach the point where they trump any and all other rights of the individual and society.

The freedom to build upon the past is necessary for creativity and innovation to thrive. We will use and promote our cultural heritage in the public domain. We will make, share, adapt, and promote open content. We will listen to free music, look at free art, watch free film, and read free books. All the while, we will contribute, discuss, annotate, critique, improve, improvise, remix, mutate, and add yet more ingredients into the free culture soup.

We will help everyone understand the value of our cultural wealth, promoting free software and the open-source model. We will resist repressive legislation which threatens our civil liberties and stifles innovation. We will oppose hardware-level monitoring devices that will prevent users from having control of their own machines and their own data.

We won’t allow the content industry to cling to obsolete modes of distribution through bad legislation. We will be active participants in a free culture of connectivity and production, made possible as it never was before by the Internet and digital technology, and we will fight to prevent this new potential from being locked down by corporate and legislative control. If we allow the bottom-up, participatory structure of the Internet to be twisted into a glorified cable TV service — if we allow the established paradigm of creation and distribution to reassert itself — then the window of opportunity opened by the Internet will have been closed, and we will have lost something beautiful, revolutionary, and irretrievable.

The future is in our hands; we must build a technological and cultural movement to defend the digital commons."

SunnyRabbiera
June 4th, 2009, 02:58 PM
Sounds good on paper but many would probably say "communism" or some crap like that.
No human ideology will work, humans by nature are stupid creatures so I say we off our race and let something more worthy come about...
Like a cockroach.

pwnst*r
June 4th, 2009, 03:05 PM
...so I say we off our race and let something more worthy come about...
Like a cockroach.

k, you first.

MasterNetra
June 4th, 2009, 03:06 PM
Sounds good on paper but many would probably say "communism" or some crap like that.
No human ideology will work, humans by nature are stupid creatures so I say we off our race and let something more worthy come about...
Like a cockroach.

That wouldn't be necessary, we could just let independent machines control our society until our species is mature enough to return to being independent. We just need guidance, on a Genetic level as well as on a intellectual level.

chucky chuckaluck
June 4th, 2009, 03:15 PM
Sounds good on paper but many would probably say "communism" or some crap like that.
No human ideology will work, humans by nature are stupid creatures so I say we off our race and let something more worthy come about...
Like a cockroach.

this statement, "We refuse to accept a future of digital feudalism where we do not actually own the products we buy, but we are merely granted limited uses of them as long as we pay the rent.", precludes the label of 'communism', as it suggests individual ownership which is contrary to the communist ideal.

the sad thing is, when the general populace feels empowered to contribute to a culture (i accidently started typing 'clutter', instead), it means that a culture will be eventually burdened with a lot of low quality garbage making sifting through it all, in a search for something special, nearly impossible.

Bölvağur
June 4th, 2009, 04:13 PM
the sad thing is, when the general populace feels empowered to contribute to a culture (i accidently started typing 'clutter', instead), it means that a culture will be eventually burdened with a lot of low quality garbage making sifting through it all, in a search for something special, nearly impossible.

So what you are saying it will continue being like it already is?

Dimitriid
June 4th, 2009, 04:33 PM
this statement, "We refuse to accept a future of digital feudalism where we do not actually own the products we buy, but we are merely granted limited uses of them as long as we pay the rent.", precludes the label of 'communism', as it suggests individual ownership which is contrary to the communist ideal.


Not necessarily. First of all, communism is an ideal just as you mentioned, so achieving a true communist state in all sense of the world would be close to impossible unless there is a global conscience revolution ( being realistic that is impossible in today's day and age )

Second of all, when it comes to Socialism, the concept of private ownership refers mainly to means of production that should be collectively own to benefit a greater number of people. Personal property its still desirable, just not in ridiculously vast ammounts that would throw off the ecomony of entire nations ( which is pretty much what happens in the case of a lot of speculators who own 99% of the wealth of the world when they account less than 1% of the population )

Refusing digital feudalism means just that, avoiding massive and generalized monopolization of a valuable resource which is software and digital technologies, is not necessarily imcompatible with a Socialist ( what you are referring to as "communist" ) ideology.

This has been revised many times: FOSS can be competitive and desirable even in capitalist or barely centered economies and FOSS companies can turn a profit.

billgoldberg
June 4th, 2009, 04:43 PM
Sounds good on paper but many would probably say "communism" or some crap like that.
No human ideology will work, humans by nature are stupid creatures so I say we off our race and let something more worthy come about...
Like a cockroach.

Human ideologies don't work for everybody because people have free will, thus can choose what they like.

That's not stupid, it's just how it is.

I'm not saying there aren't a lot of stupid people, don't get me wrong. :p

DeadSuperHero
June 4th, 2009, 05:31 PM
I personally think Free Culture is pretty rad. Although I may never fully subscribe to the ideology, all of the music I listen to is under the Creative Commons, for example. All of the short stories I write and videos I make are also under a permissive Attribution Share-Alike license.

chucky chuckaluck
June 4th, 2009, 05:37 PM
Second of all, when it comes to Socialism, the concept of private ownership refers mainly to means of production that should be collectively own to benefit a greater number of people. Personal property its still desirable, just not in ridiculously vast ammounts that would throw off the ecomony of entire nations ( which is pretty much what happens in the case of a lot of speculators who own 99% of the wealth of the world when they account less than 1% of the population )


socialism and communism are not the same thing.




So what you are saying it will continue being like it already is?

and, for the most part, always has been.

karellen
June 4th, 2009, 06:04 PM
not for me. I just want "culture" ;), be it "free" or "proprietary". only the person who creates something has the right to do whatever he/she wants with his/her works, not an ideology