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Bungo Pony
June 2nd, 2009, 02:28 AM
Microsoft's new shiny search engine Bing (http://www.bing.com) is now ready for all your searching needs! Too bad it's just Live Search with a new interface. The results still suck.

How was your experience with it?

MichaelSammels
June 2nd, 2009, 02:33 AM
I do not see the point of Bing... really, I don't. :S

zurack
June 2nd, 2009, 02:40 AM
Whats with the Santorini landscape, no adds which is always a good thing and i like the endless image search :)

MichaelSammels
June 2nd, 2009, 02:41 AM
Apparently that picture changes all the time. According to Wikipedia this is to compete with the likes of Google.

Tipped OuT
June 2nd, 2009, 02:43 AM
Wow, all it is is, Windows Live Search... with new colors, and renamed to "Bing". What a joke.

monsterstack
June 2nd, 2009, 02:47 AM
Holy crap. I just Googled Bing. That's Microsoft's problem right there.

Simian Man
June 2nd, 2009, 02:47 AM
It's hard to read the white on light blue text. The image search is kind of neat, but I think it'd be irritating if I was really looking for something. What could this have that would beat Google?

MichaelSammels
June 2nd, 2009, 02:49 AM
It's hard to read the white on light blue text. The image search is kind of neat, but I think it'd be irritating if I was really looking for something. What could this have that would beat Google?

... nothing. :)

monsterstack
June 2nd, 2009, 02:55 AM
~What could this have that would beat Google?

Do you really have to ask?

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/stuffandstuffand/Screenshot-4.png

MichaelSammels
June 2nd, 2009, 02:57 AM
Yeah, looks like it's a biased search engine. :P

lisati
June 2nd, 2009, 03:00 AM
Image search! Wow! As if Google has never had such a facility </sarcasm>

MichaelSammels
June 2nd, 2009, 03:01 AM
Yes, I also notice this new idea of changing images in the logo. :P

zeroseven0183
June 2nd, 2009, 03:01 AM
I'd stick with Google. Anything Microsoft nowadays is somewhat jokey.

MichaelSammels
June 2nd, 2009, 03:03 AM
Anything Microsoft was always jokey in my opinion.

Sealbhach
June 2nd, 2009, 03:09 AM
Yeah, looks like it's a biased search engine. :P

Biased? Surely not.;)

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MichaelSammels
June 2nd, 2009, 03:10 AM
How do you attach thumbnails?

Sealbhach
June 2nd, 2009, 03:12 AM
How do you attach thumbnails?

Just upload an image, it automatically thumbnails it.


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days_of_ruin
June 2nd, 2009, 05:06 AM
Biased? Surely not.;)

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WTH?? I get completely different results.

Giant Speck
June 2nd, 2009, 05:17 AM
It reminds me of Ask.com, only it actually looks good and doesn't lag like crazy.

gashcr
June 2nd, 2009, 05:26 AM
For some reason, it thinks I'm in argentina...

anonymousturtle3
June 2nd, 2009, 05:29 AM
You're right about the sucky search results.
Typing "?" turns up nothing.
but then again, so does typing it in google.
oh well, let's blame microsoft anyways ;)

Firestem4
June 2nd, 2009, 05:40 AM
Holy crap. I just Googled Bing. That's Microsoft's problem right there.

I'm sorry...but I couldn't stop laughing at that...BAH!

I'dve probably done the same thing..Or used Google to search for Bing on Wikipedia =P

ade234uk
June 2nd, 2009, 05:57 AM
Clutching at straws. Unfortunately the non techy people who don't know any different will love it.

0per4t0r
June 2nd, 2009, 06:08 AM
all it does is promote MS. It's just a clone of other search engines.

amitabhishek
June 2nd, 2009, 12:45 PM
Porn glitch found in Bing...

http://infotech.indiatimes.com/News/Internet/Porn-glitch-in-Microsoft-Bling/articleshow/msid-4608944,curpg-2.cms


The glitch was noticed by technology blogger Loic Le Meur on June 1 after testing video search on Bing, and he found the number of pornography located transformed the search engine into its very own pornographic website.

fatality_uk
June 2nd, 2009, 12:57 PM
I do like the results it produces:

benj1
June 2nd, 2009, 02:26 PM
now im no microsoft supporter by any means but in the interests of a balanced debate

benj1
June 2nd, 2009, 02:31 PM
and a third party view

Delever
June 2nd, 2009, 02:32 PM
The problem seems, bing can't find itself yet...

MichaelSammels
June 2nd, 2009, 02:34 PM
Really? I typed in "Bing" into Microsoft Bing and the first link back was a link to itself.

Delever
June 2nd, 2009, 02:37 PM
Really? I typed in "Bing" into Microsoft Bing and the first link back was a link to itself.

I've got www.bing.org as first result - then bing.de page - probably results depend heavily on locality.

CrazyArcher
June 2nd, 2009, 02:49 PM
This thing reminds me of Bada-Bing from 'The Sopranos'. I think they should adopt as a slogan "Just when I thought I was out... They pull me back in!" said with Silvio Dante's voice :D

mybunche
June 2nd, 2009, 03:05 PM
Microsoft has virtually a monopoly on the desktop so there is no way I am going to contribute to their already large empire by using their search.

omar8
June 2nd, 2009, 03:20 PM
I tried it and it is actually pretty good, the results are good and presented nicely. It is fast. BUT I think google has become a muscle reaction, want to find something? Google it. I would have to put some kind of flashing neon sign above my monitor to remind me to use bing instead of google.

Sealbhach
June 2nd, 2009, 03:25 PM
WTH?? I get completely different results.

Well I've just done it again and got the same search results for

Microsoft stifles innovation

without the quotation marks.

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KIAaze
June 2nd, 2009, 03:33 PM
and a third party view

This engine is AMAZING! :D
Thanks for the (indirect) link.

http://www42.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=interpolate+1+2+3+4+5+7+9+0+2

It may only be of use for some searches, but it's still pretty amazing. :KS

Note: http://www.wolframalpha.com/ was the first search result for "wolfram alpha" in Google, but not in Bing (unless I specifically selected the "only english" button).
edit: Google once again superior for "wolfram alpha firefox add on"...
(bing seems to have a problem with keeping the english setting, insisting on using the language corresponding to my geographical location (a feature which makes sense, but is annoying sometimes))

Therion
June 2nd, 2009, 03:43 PM
Haven't tested Bing extensively just yet, but from playing around with it what little I have, I'm forced to admit the overall experience is pretty damn good.

I still prefer Google's simplistic white start-page (Windmills? Serioulsy... What marketing genius decided on (tilting at) WINDMILLS for the homepage??)) but as far as how it works I gotta say it gets the job done.

Image search, in particular, seems spot-on whereas Google can be much more hit-or-miss with dead links and such.

papangul
June 2nd, 2009, 03:48 PM
I used to test whether the network is working by pinging google.com, henceforth I would ping bing for my testing purposes.:p

KIAaze
June 2nd, 2009, 04:13 PM
Just found out how to fix the geolocation: Just click on the country link in the top right corner to select your country.
This also enables/disables certain features depending on the country you're in. ;)
(This is even better than Google where you have to type in the address of some localized google (unless you want to use the google from where you are or google.com in english).)

iTrickU
June 2nd, 2009, 04:50 PM
In all seriousness i think that bing will soon become the No.1 porn search engine on the web, you can watch stuff without ever leaving bing

:popcorn:

days_of_ruin
June 2nd, 2009, 05:17 PM
Well I've just done it again and got the same search results for

Microsoft stifles innovation

without the quotation marks.

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Have you searched using terms like "open source" before hand?
Maybe it personalizes search results based on previous searches.

stimpack
June 2nd, 2009, 05:25 PM
Microsoft's biggest problem is announcing its attempt to catch Google at the same time as Google announces Google Wave. Google are in a different class.

inspriation26
June 2nd, 2009, 05:29 PM
Well from my experiance with it, its about as decent as windows xp. I searched for linux and got what i was looking for. Heck Ubuntu was on the first page. Finaly M$ has figured out at least one thing, how to get rod out of the search engin @$$. Now how about that Windows 7 eh? LOL

Bungo Pony
June 3rd, 2009, 01:41 AM
It's just a clone of other search engines.

Perhaps a feeble clone.

I typed my blog's title into three other search engines. My blog came up within the first two links. When I type it into Bing, it doesn't show up at all (at least not in the first ten pages). I didn't show up in Live Search either.

I'm thinking that they just slapped a new coat of paint on Live Search, hung a couple of pretty pictures on it, and called it 'new'. After all, that's what Microsoft's good at.

monsterstack
June 3rd, 2009, 06:01 AM
Just got this rather ironic piece of news (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j5UQqoVuKXM_24BeNqcizB7BytKAD98IVJ280) [google.com] into my rss feeds:

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/stuffandstuffand/bing.jpg

Wiebelhaus
June 3rd, 2009, 06:06 AM
Microsoft's new shiny search engine Bing (http://www.bing.com) is now ready for all your searching needs! Too bad it's just Live Search with a new interface. The results still suck.

How was your experience with it?

It still sucks.

ade234uk
June 3rd, 2009, 06:28 AM
I hate it as well. Everything Microsoft does these days annoys me. Please go away with this crap search engine. I went to Ubuntu to get away from Microsoft 7+ months ago, and I am still happy with Ubuntu. Not matter what they say or do, you want make me change. Microsoft have lost their touch, their greed has finally caught up with them and good riddance. Microsoft take note: Running Ubuntu 7+ months, no viruses, no spyware and my machine runs still as good as when I first installed, and finally it's FREE.

papangul
June 3rd, 2009, 07:07 AM
Microsoft hopes will turn Bing into a verb
It has already become:
But within hours of its launch, Bing banged into a controversy... (http://www.ciol.com/News/News-Reports/No-more-hot-search-now-on-Bing!/2609120436/0/)

There is also a possibility that "banged" will become a synonym of DOS attacks on bing.... you don't have to ask me what a distributed DOS attack on bing is likely to be called.;)

The Toxic Mite
June 3rd, 2009, 08:28 AM
I do not see the point of Bing... really, I don't. :S

+1

I don't see why they had to rename Live Search to "bing" :?

TBH, I think bing is a stupid name for a search engine, but if they want to name it that, then so be it. :|

benj1
June 3rd, 2009, 11:46 AM
+1

I don't see why they had to rename Live Search to "bing" :?

TBH, I think bing is a stupid name for a search engine, but if they want to name it that, then so be it. :|

if you think about it google is pretty stupid and meaningless (from a search perpective).
at least its easier to type than wolfram alpha.

inspriation26
June 3rd, 2009, 05:15 PM
Just got this rather ironic piece of news (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j5UQqoVuKXM_24BeNqcizB7BytKAD98IVJ280) [google.com] into my rss feeds:

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww177/stuffandstuffand/bing.jpg
M$ should give up already. Google is the biggest search engin, map, shopping and all around powerfull comupter company with its web based applications like Google documents, Gmail and Wave(coming soon). Don't forget maps. Google Earth is pretty cool. I think that one day that Windows will fall and Andriod will be on more than cell phones and netbooks. Every dog has his day and Microsinks's is over. Thanks for the crappy software, M$! Now linux, the mac,unix, and Andriod will be kicking you on the ground for everything you have.

Bungo Pony
June 3rd, 2009, 09:14 PM
I think bing is a stupid name for a search engine,

Actually, it's a pretty good one. I used to work with a guy who had a really heavy accent. Occationally, he'd tell me "Go geh da bing!" I would leave and return with a storage bin.

Now when he says "Go geh da bing!" it'll just mean he wants you to go to Microsoft's search engine. See? Free advertisement for Microsoft (well, at least when it comes to people with accents)

Cowchip7
June 15th, 2009, 01:11 AM
What do you all think about Microsoft's new push in the internet search business? Do you think it is better than their old engine... or is it just re-branded? Discuss.

nolliecrooked
June 15th, 2009, 01:13 AM
What do you all think about Microsoft's new push in the internet search business?

it looks like google.

lovinglinux
June 15th, 2009, 01:41 AM
I don't like any Microsoft's web services. They all suck compared to Google's counterparts.

Unless they implement a revolutionary algorithm capable of giving much better results than Google, I don't see a reason to use it. I tried the same search query using the site string for ubuntuforums.org. While Google returned 312 results, Bing returned only 2.

Tipped OuT
June 15th, 2009, 02:22 AM
I just saw a Bing commercial on T.V. the other day and now I'm seeing ad's on YouTube. Microsoft is really pushing this.

Sef
June 15th, 2009, 03:09 AM
Bing is not so innocent as it seems. From Groklaw (http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009061001520015) :


Update: And now for the cherry on top of the scheme, here's some news from The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/06/03/bing_and_wikipedia/) on how Bing is using Wikipedia:

With its new Bing decision engine search engine, Redmond is reproducing Wikipedia entries in their entirety, pulling content from "the free encyclopedia anyone can edit" and tossing it onto Bing pages labeled with a "Reference" tag. Microsoft is expected to point this out in a blog post sometime today or tomorrow. "There now is a Wikipedia 'Reference' vertical that can be accessed through Bing. Certain queries like 'squirrel monkey' for example will trigger a reference answer in the Table of Contents. Click 'Reference' in the left hand rail and you will be transported to best Wikipedia page for that query," reads a draft of the post.
But you're not actually transported to a Wikipedia page. You're transported to a reproduction of a Wikipedia page on Microsoft's own site, where it's labeled as "Reference" material.
Now we have a closed loop. Microsoft-friendly folks rewrite Wikipedia articles, which Microsoft then picks up and serves to the world as truth. Will they correct the articles, when FUD is removed or just continue to serve up their own versions of truth? It might be fun to track that going forward. Not even Stalin himself could do a better job of revisionism, I'm thinking, since he lacked such clever tools. - End Update.]

dracule
June 15th, 2009, 03:30 AM
Bing is not so innocent as it seems. From Groklaw (http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2009061001520015) :

sounds like a bunch of BS conspiracy theories.

linuxguymarshall
June 15th, 2009, 03:44 AM
I will not use it. I have used Google forever because of the following :



It is simple
It finds what you need quickly
Although it is simple up-front there are many advance features that you can use.

forrestcupp
June 15th, 2009, 03:50 AM
Unless they implement a revolutionary algorithm capable of giving much better results than Google, I don't see a reason to use it. I tried the same search query using the site string for ubuntuforums.org. While Google returned 312 results, Bing returned only 2.

I'm not an advocate of Bing, but if it filters out all of the crap that I don't care about and gives me what I'm really looking for, then I don't mind if it gives less results. I don't need quantity; I want quality. But it remains to be seen whether Bing will give quality or not.

tgalati4
June 15th, 2009, 03:54 AM
MS had a chance to buy yet another heirarchical object-oriented (YAHOO) search engine.
The folks at Yahoo wisely declined.

jimv
June 15th, 2009, 06:22 AM
I've been using it since it came out and it's decent. For those of you who wonder "Why would MS bother with this?" The answer is that 1% of search engine market share = $1,000,000,000.

jimv
June 15th, 2009, 06:26 AM
sounds like a bunch of BS conspiracy theories.

FOSS people tend to resort to that quickly when it comes to Microsoft.

Sealbhach
June 15th, 2009, 08:52 AM
FOSS people tend to resort to that quickly when it comes to Microsoft.

With good cause.

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KIAaze
June 15th, 2009, 11:13 AM
Just found this bing ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnb_tMRlHwQ
So what I want to do with a search engine is find ads and stupid merchandise, like the stuff they try to sell on shopping channels?
Seems to me like the ad targets advertisers, not users. ^^

But the other "search overload syndrome" ads are quite funny.

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=google&word2=bing :)

Johnsie
June 15th, 2009, 01:18 PM
Out of the all the billions of people on the net there are only a few major search engines? WTF??? That just shows how shallow people are. To be honest I don't want Google or MS to be king of search. I would rather use small search engines than allow some companies to dominate everything that goes on on the web. To me Google is a bigger threat than MS because they have access to so much information. If they were to release an OS I would also be extremely worried.

I'm all for the little guys