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Lemuel111
June 1st, 2009, 12:06 PM
Hi folks I am totally new to Linux and the way it runs. I have read Ubuntu Kung Fu and looked at my help in Ubuntu Jaunty but I am still having problems getting connected to the internet via my Belkin wireless G+ device. I have download a number of items which are supposed to help (RutilTv0.14; gtk+-bundle_2.16.1-20090419_win32.zip; rtl8185; wpa_supplicant-0.4.9) but the 'read me' suggest you should only use these if you know what your doing (which I don't!!). Plus I don't know how to install them. Can anyone help or otherwise I will get into trouble with my wife for wasiting time with Linux instead of using Windows!!

mapes12
June 1st, 2009, 01:07 PM
In my experience the problem can usually boiled down to an unsupported wifi adapter. Here are some links that may be helpful:

http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/products/wireless/

http://wicd.sourceforge.net/

http://madwifi.org/

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=794815

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wi...3d3c3468508d45

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wi...eShootingGuide

Good luck.

Mark

Lemuel111
June 1st, 2009, 03:17 PM
Thanks Mark. I've got WiCd onto my desktop but how do I install it??

Lemuel111
June 1st, 2009, 03:36 PM
I appear to have installed Wicd as i have the symbol present on my top bar but I am still not connecting to the internet. In Applications I click on wicd but nothing happens. What do I need to do next?
Thanks in advance.

superprash2003
June 1st, 2009, 05:09 PM
post output of lshw -C network from the terminal

Lemuel111
June 3rd, 2009, 09:28 PM
I typed sudo Ishw -C network & then Ishw -C network and both times it just said "command not found"

Lemuel111
June 3rd, 2009, 09:46 PM
I've made sure that I have completley removed network manager & network manager gnome and then reinstalled wicd. I checked terminal & towards end it says
"setting up wicd (1.5.9)..
ls:cannot access/opt/wicd/encryption/configurations/: No such file or directory
*Starting Network connection manager wicd {fail}

Processing triggers for man-dib ...."

Any suggestions??

Thanks in advance

LewRockwell
June 3rd, 2009, 09:58 PM
I typed sudo Ishw -C network & then Ishw -C network and both times it just said "command not found"


sudo lshw -C network

(that's little L little S little H little W)

that should help

Lemuel111
June 3rd, 2009, 10:07 PM
I got a bit more 'processing' that time but when I click on wicd still nothing.

LewRockwell
June 3rd, 2009, 10:09 PM
Hi folks I am totally new to Linux and the way it runs. I have read Ubuntu Kung Fu and looked at my help in Ubuntu Jaunty but I am still having problems getting connected to the internet via my Belkin wireless G+ device. I have download a number of items which are supposed to help (RutilTv0.14; gtk+-bundle_2.16.1-20090419_win32.zip; rtl8185; wpa_supplicant-0.4.9) but the 'read me' suggest you should only use these if you know what your doing (which I don't!!). Plus I don't know how to install them. Can anyone help or otherwise I will get into trouble with my wife for wasiting time with Linux instead of using Windows!!

I'm usually hesitant to assume what all your makes and models and part numbers and software and operating systems are.

but really...all those things take the guessing and assumptions away...and make it easier for US to HELP you...

say you see an ad in the newspaper "car for sale, doesn't run"...

now think about how many questions could be asked regarding "car" "sale" and "doesn't run"...

to wit, I've got a 1909 Ford Model T for sale that won't run(and you're not going to just run down to autozone for parts either)

http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1657686_1657663,00.html

LewRockwell
June 3rd, 2009, 10:26 PM
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/41400

your output from "sudo lshw -C network" should have been something like what is found in the link above

Lemuel111
June 3rd, 2009, 10:30 PM
Sorry didn't quite get the gist. Do you need more details? I am using Ubuntu jaunty with dual boot win xp (although since dual booting windows no longer works! hall.dll fault!). I am using them on a Asus desktop. Does that help?

Lemuel111
June 3rd, 2009, 10:51 PM
The read out says "*-network DISABLED"

coffeeaddict22
June 4th, 2009, 01:06 AM
Hi Lemuel,
We need to see the output to help. For instance,
lshw -C network
WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: 82562V-2 10/100 Network Connection
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 19
bus info: pci@0000:xx:xx.x
logical name: eth0
version: 02
serial: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=e1000e driverversion=0.3.3.3-k6 firmware=1.1-2 ip=192.168.2.3 latency=0 module=e1000e multicast=yes

is what mine puts out. The info includes the logical name, the module and the driver. We know your card isn't working, you've told us that; without more info, and more specific info we can't help. For instance, I've got 2 other "network" interfaces; one is used by virtualbox and one by the pan. I expect them to be "disabled" because of my setup at present; we don't know what yours is. There's no point giving advice if we don't know what the problem is, and what it isn't. So can you post back the info asked for?

Lemuel111
June 4th, 2009, 09:31 PM
That should be fine. I'll have to copy it all out as I am using my laptop not my desk topl. Thanks.

Lemuel111
June 5th, 2009, 10:24 PM
Right at long last here is the read out:-


luke@luke-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c network
*-network DISABLED
description: Ethernet interface
product: SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet
vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
physical id: 4
bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0
logical name: eth0
version: 90
serial: 00:11:2f:d1:4b:d8
size: 10MB/s
capacity: 100MB/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=sis900 driverversion=v1.08.10 Apr. 2 2006 duplex=half latency=32 link=no maxlatency=11 mingnt=52 module=sis900 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10MB/s
*-network DISABLED
description: Ethernet interface
physical id: 1
logical name: pan0
serial: ee:07:37:21:91:b9
capabilities: ethernet physical
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=bridge driverversion=2.3 firmware=N/A link=yes multicast=yes
luke@luke-desktop:~$

Lemuel111
June 5th, 2009, 11:24 PM
Sorry its taken so long but my laptop was playing up - Windows! If I can get everything working in Ubuntu and running fine then I would gladly say goodbye to Windows on my laptop too, so I wouldn't have to worry about all the virus checks and the slowing down of the processor as it does them!

Lemuel111
June 6th, 2009, 11:56 AM
I did the lshw -C network command and this is the read out. Are you able to see where the problem is?

luke@luke-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c network
*-network DISABLED
description: Ethernet interface
product: SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet
vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
physical id: 4
bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0
logical name: eth0
version: 90
serial: 00:11:2f:d1:4b:d8
size: 10MB/s
capacity: 100MB/s
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=sis900 driverversion=v1.08.10 Apr. 2 2006 duplex=half latency=32 link=no maxlatency=11 mingnt=52 module=sis900 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10MB/s
*-network DISABLED
description: Ethernet interface
physical id: 1
logical name: pan0
serial: ee:07:37:21:91:b9
capabilities: ethernet physical
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=bridge driverversion=2.3 firmware=N/A link=yes multicast=yes
luke@luke-desktop:~$


Thanks

3rdalbum
June 6th, 2009, 01:24 PM
Hmm... that's not good, your device is not showing up. Are you sure it's plugged in?

What's the output of:


lsusb

That command should tell us what is being recognised on USB.

Unplug the device, wait 30 seconds and plug it back in, and give us the output of this:


dmesg | tail

This gives us the last few lines from your kernel log. If there are any problems initialising the device or stopping it from being recognised, the kernel should log it.

You should copy and paste the commands in rather than just retype them.

Lemuel111
June 6th, 2009, 02:57 PM
Lsusb =

Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0b27:0601 Ritek Corp.

Bus 001 Device 002: ID 4317:0711

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub

Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub

Bus 002 Device 007: ID 413c:4003 Dell Computer Corp. Axim X30

Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub

luke@luke-desktop:~$


dmesg | tail =

luke@luke-desktop:~$ dmesg | tail

[ 415.354159] usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 24

[ 415.357867] ipaq ttyUSB0: PocketPC PDA converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0

[ 415.357901] ipaq 2-2:1.0: device disconnected

[ 420.912034] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 25

[ 421.150313] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

[ 421.152623] ipaq 2-2:1.0: PocketPC PDA converter detected

[ 421.194208] usb 2-2: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0

[ 433.156094] usb 2-2: USB disconnect, address 25

[ 433.159269] ipaq ttyUSB0: PocketPC PDA converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0

[ 433.159297] ipaq 2-2:1.0: device disconnected

luke@luke-desktop:~$

Lemuel111
June 7th, 2009, 11:41 AM
Can you see where the problem is?

Thanks

3rdalbum
June 7th, 2009, 12:33 PM
Either Linux can't see the device, or it believes it to be some sort of accessory for the iPaq PDA. Are you sure the device actually works, is plugged in and turned on?

In any case it appears to be beyond my abilities. I only buy wireless devices that work out-of-the-box in Linux, like Atheros-based devices, RTL-8187 devices, or the D-link DWL-G122 that I just bought. The D-link was $AUD9.95 new on eBay, maybe see if you can grab one of those?

Lemuel111
June 7th, 2009, 08:23 PM
Yes the device works fine in Windows on the same computer without any problems.

Anybody else have any suggestions as to where the problem might lie?

Thanks

Lemuel111
June 7th, 2009, 09:24 PM
I do have a PDA which it is obsioulsy recoginisng but I'm surprised its not picking up the Belkin adapter.

LewRockwell
June 7th, 2009, 10:04 PM
I've read and reread the three pages in this thread and I still can't figure out what hardware you're working with and the model number of this device that you are trying to integrate into your system?

From what I've read, and with no more information to go on that what's already been posted, I'd say the device you are attempting to use linux with...is ONLY compatible with WINDOZE...

If it were my equipment I'd throw the Puppy Linux live-run CD in and if it worked with Puppy then I would continue trying to make it work with other *nix distros...if it DIDN'T work with Puppy...well, I'd get one that was compatible with *nix...

Lemuel111
June 7th, 2009, 10:31 PM
The device details listed on it are 802.11g - 125 HSM. The number on the back is CE0560; MAC address = 001CDFAFD75F; model no.F5D7051 P10650-C.

I didn't understand the last thing you were saying. I have the live ubuntu CD but what is the Puppy live cd? Sorry but I am totally new to Linux.

thanks in advance.

LewRockwell
June 8th, 2009, 02:44 AM
The device details listed on it are 802.11g - 125 HSM. The number on the back is CE0560; MAC address = 001CDFAFD75F; model no.F5D7051 P10650-C.

I didn't understand the last thing you were saying. I have the live ubuntu CD but what is the Puppy live cd? Sorry but I am totally new to Linux.

thanks in advance.

I googled "F5D7051" and came up with this saga that I looked over briefly but didn't read, it should give you an idea of what you're up against.

http://thehardsell.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/kubuntu-and-the-belkin-f5d7051-a-saga/

Then, you ask about Puppy Linux which, of course, is also easily found via a quality search engine.

Here is a link to the download page:
http://puppylinux.org/main/index.php?file=Download%20Latest%20Release.htm

Here is a direct ftp link that should be ready to download immediately:
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/puppy-4.2.1-k2.6.25.16-seamonkey.iso

LewRockwell
June 8th, 2009, 03:26 AM
something else I found:

http://kahrn.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/belkin-f5d7051-usb-wifi-and-linux/

Lemuel111
June 8th, 2009, 11:23 PM
Thanks for those but unfortuantley i am still struggling carring out some of the suggestions as I don't know the basics for Linux. Being new to Linux I could do with a set of step by step instructions for dumbies. I also have the problem that wicd is not working e.g. "starting network connection manager wicd {fail}."

I go to these different forums but they all seem to assume you have a basic understanding and I just seem to be going round in circles because I get so far down the suggestions & then come a cropper with not knowing how to do something.

If anyone has the patience to take me through step by step and bear with my lack of knowledge and the occassional break (as I don't always get to the computer evey night) then that would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Lemuel111
June 9th, 2009, 11:00 AM
Anybody free to help us with this. I would really like to get sorted with Linux but at this rate I'm starting to get itchy feet of going back to Windows.

Thanks

abn91c
June 9th, 2009, 12:22 PM
remove the PDA before you try to connect

Lemuel111
June 9th, 2009, 01:17 PM
I've removed the pda and lsusb only recognises the following (it goes when the wifi adapter is removed):-
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 4317:0711

LewRockwell
June 9th, 2009, 02:43 PM
These methods have been tested under Fedora, Ubuntu and BackTrack 4. All of the following should work in almost any linux distribution to get a Belkin F5D7051 (or possibly similar device) working in Linux for WiFi access.

By default the F5D7051 conflicts with 3 drivers (the rt* set of drivers). These drivers must be disabled, rndis_wlan must be loaded and then hopefully the strange problems will go away.

1. Remove Conflicting Drivers
rmmod rt2500usb
rmmod rt2x00lib
rmmod rt2x00usb

2. Reinsert the device

3. Load rndis_wlan
modprobe rndis_wlan


someone recently had success with this procedure

Lemuel111
June 9th, 2009, 03:16 PM
All I get is "ERROR: Module rt2500usb does not exist in /proc/modules"

Lemuel111
June 9th, 2009, 03:42 PM
I tried the other commands & this is what came out:-

luke@luke-desktop:~$ rmmod rt2500usb

ERROR: Module rt2500usb does not exist in /proc/modules

luke@luke-desktop:~$ rmmod rt2x00lib

ERROR: Module rt2x00lib does not exist in /proc/modules

luke@luke-desktop:~$ rmmod rt2x00usb

ERROR: Module rt2x00usb does not exist in /proc/modules

luke@luke-desktop:~$ modprobe rndis_wlan

WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it will be ignored in a future release.

WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release.

WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, it will be ignored in a future release.

WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.old, it will be ignored in a future release.

WARNING: Error inserting cdc_ether (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/usb/cdc_ether.ko): Operation not permitted

WARNING: Error inserting rndis_host (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/usb/rndis_host.ko): Operation not permitted

FATAL: Error inserting rndis_wlan (/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rndis_wlan.ko): Operation not permitted

luke@luke-desktop:~$

ptn107
June 9th, 2009, 04:33 PM
If you're running Ubuntu 9.04 try installing these packages and rebooting:
linux-firmware
linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-11-generic

Lemuel111
June 9th, 2009, 05:09 PM
According to Synaptic manager I already have Linux firmware. I will have to download linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-11-generic onto my laptop and put it onto a usb stick to put onto my desktop. What is the best way of installing linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-11-generic from my USB stick to desktop?

Thanks.

Lemuel111
June 9th, 2009, 07:39 PM
CanI install the files from the USB stick and if so how?

Thanks

ptn107
June 18th, 2009, 06:34 AM
Download the file from:
linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-11 (http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-2.6.28/linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-11-generic_2.6.28-11.12_i386.deb) for the 32-bit version
linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-11 (http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-backports-modules-2.6.28/linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-11-generic_2.6.28-11.12_amd64.deb) for the 64-bit version

Copy the file to the USB stick and then over onto the desktop of the other computer you wish to install it on. From that computer open a terminal (Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal) and type:

cd Desktop/
sudo dpkg -i *.deb

Lemuel111
June 18th, 2009, 11:39 AM
I download and installed but still nothing.