warranty and xp

[Supersquirrel]

Hello
IF i delete ubuntu and put xp on does that void the warranty? I know this defeats the purpose of ubuntu but system76 is less expensive than dell and hp.

[Supersquirrel]

Oh i will still have ubuntu on it for college courses too.

[thomasaaron]

It would not kill your warranty. However, we do not provide technical support for XP.

[Supersquirrel]

but hardware would still be covered?

[thomasaaron]

yes

[Sarai the Geek]

Just to attach on to this, would my warranty then be valid if I replaced Ubuntu with Linux Mint? Mint is something like 80% Ubuntu, would sys76 provide tech support if I had software issues from that Ubuntu part? (<= does that question make sense?)

[thomasaaron]

The OS on your system has nothing to do with hardware warranty.

We specialize in supporting Ubuntu. We wouldn't load Linux Mint or Fedora or Windows to try to figure out a problem, but we would do our best to point you in the right direction.

If Mint is close to Ubuntu, we'd give it a shot.

[Sarai the Geek]

The OS on your system has nothing to do with hardware warranty.

We specialize in supporting Ubuntu. We wouldn't load Linux Mint or Fedora or Windows to try to figure out a problem, but we would do our best to point you in the right direction.

If Mint is close to Ubuntu, we'd give it a shot.

Perfect, that's exactly what I wanted to hear! Gonna be ordering my Pangolin probably mid-June, I'm counting down the days!!

[miniyak]

i just tried Mint recently, its pretty much ubuntu with a good out of the box experience. Mint would be a great choice for pre installs for a distributor if the legal repercussions could be squared away. Still... there is a lot of proprietary stuff included with Mint, so for the idealist who really support open source this is an issue.

personally i like to be mostly open source at this point because thing have to "just work" for me and at the end of day the most effective coding process will stomp the other regardless of what i decide to not buy;) lol

I have a good feeling that a s76 computer would work great with Mint. Plus supporting Mint would basically the same as supporting ubuntu minus the end user having the exact same UI (just about all the changes in mint seem superficial)

maybe ill pop in the live cd into my pangolin latter to see how it works

[Sarai the Geek]

i just tried Mint recently, its pretty much ubuntu with a good out of the box experience. Mint would be a great choice for pre installs for a distributor if the legal repercussions could be squared away. Still... there is a lot of proprietary stuff included with Mint, so for the idealist who really support open source this is an issue.

personally i like to be mostly open source at this point because thing have to "just work" for me and at the end of day the most effective coding process will stomp the other regardless of what i decide to not buy;) lol

I have a good feeling that a s76 computer would work great with Mint. Plus supporting Mint would basically the same as supporting ubuntu minus the end user having the exact same UI (just about all the changes in mint seem superficial)

maybe ill pop in the live cd into my pangolin latter to see how it works

Please do! I am especially interested in how functional the sys76 drivers are- I suspect they work as well as they do in Ubuntu since most of the differences between the two are gui related.
I installed Mint on my computer today, have been wanting to for a while and with the release of Gloria I figured it was time. So far, I like it a lot! Time will tell whether I decide to use it for my new pangolin when I get it!

[betrunkenaffe]

Being an American company, best practice might be to shy away from Linux Mint for distribution, there are potential legal repercussions due to the proprietary stuff.

And yeah, Mint basically seemed like Ubuntu with added stuff.

[jdb]

Please do! I am especially interested in how functional the sys76 drivers are- I suspect they work as well as they do in Ubuntu since most of the differences between the two are gui related.
I installed Mint on my computer today, have been wanting to for a while and with the release of Gloria I figured it was time. So far, I like it a lot! Time will tell whether I decide to use it for my new pangolin when I get it!

The bad news is the 76 drivers will only run in Ubuntu.
The good news is they usually only tweek a few things & they are often things you can live without.
Many of the fixes make it into the mainline code which means after a model has been out for a while it might not need them at all.
If you really need a fix & you are a bit of a hacker, you can look at the python scripts the drivers are written in and figure out how to implement them on a different system.
It may be no more than modifying a configuration file.

jdb

[Sarai the Geek]

The bad news is the 76 drivers will only run in Ubuntu.
The good news is they usually only tweek a few things & they are often things you can live without.
Many of the fixes make it into the mainline code which means after a model has been out for a while it might not need them at all.
If you really need a fix & you are a bit of a hacker, you can look at the python scripts the drivers are written in and figure out how to implement them on a different system.
It may be no more than modifying a configuration file.

jdb

Hmm, could you elaborate? What exactly doesn't work- are we talking wireless internet or media keys on the importance level?

[thomasaaron]

Fingerprint Reader. Web cam on some models.

[miniyak]

for someone interested in Mint i going to have to say that the finger print reader is a bust even with the s76 drivers anyway. It does "work" but its far form something i would use on a daily basis or consider user friendly.

Actually if the choice was up to me and not the OEM i would have left out FP reader and put more tactile mouse buttons on the panp5 that Sarai the Geek is interested in.

Both FP reader and webcam are two things that sound better in theory then are useful in practice even when a the drivers are fully supported. Webcams have horrible frame rates and FP readers have a hard time unless you scan the exact same way every time.

Tom, on the Panp5, are the graphics card drivers also updated and installed by s76 driver program, or is that something provided independently through Nvidia? or more basically would it be hard to get the graphics card drivers using another distro like mint?

[thomasaaron]

They are proprietary drivers packaged with Ubuntu. If Mint is enough like Ubuntu (and current with Ubuntu's latest version, etc...) then you should be able to image the computer, go to System > Admin > Hardware Drivers and just enable the nVidia drivers.

[Sarai the Geek]

They are proprietary drivers packaged with Ubuntu. If Mint is enough like Ubuntu (and current with Ubuntu's latest version, etc...) then you should be able to image the computer, go to System > Admin > Hardware Drivers and just enable the nVidia drivers.
That's what I expected- I have a nvidia graphics card on my current computer, enabling the proprietary drivers is exactly the same on Mint and Ubuntu. They really are VERY similar.