gnome vs kde, is gnome more stable?

[ttallos]

I think that I like the features of gnome better than kde. I was wondering what the opinon of the community is on gnome apps being more stable than kde apps.

[aysiu]

KDE itself doesn't crash so much as the applications in KDE crash, but I've had those same KDE applications crash while being used in Gnome.

[ttallos]

Thanks for your input. kde is ok and I have put it under a networking load and had good success. I am thinking that gnome may be more stable. Thanks for your answer to my question.

[JimmyJazz]

In Ubuntu yes Gnome is more stable.
This isn't true on all distros though.
I'm pretty sure we can look foward to better KDE support in the future though.

[jsmidt]

Why does there seem to be a trend among many hard core programmers that they prefere gnome? Only that has been my experience.

[ttallos]

Maby the programmers know something we don't

[JimmyJazz]

Why does there seem to be a trend among many hard core programmers that they prefere gnome? Only that has been my experience.

I don't know it seems to me that its pretty even across the board among the programmers I know. I've personally found that it much easier to program GTK apps then QT, not that it has anything to do with it.

Most of KDE is pretty stable for me the only major thing that bugs me is Konquoror, its always doing something silly or acting a fool.

[Mr_Grieves]

Hahaha! I'm very sorry for the offtopic.. but when someone writes..

"acting a fool."

I allways think of Mr T.
http://www.uselessvoid.com/flash/tymr.swf

[ttallos]

For me there were little annoying things with a kde based desktop
1 login through VNC a pain with all that password crap
gnome let me just enter a password that i wanted
2 the time was stuck on military time with kde
3 user apps like synaptic,firefox and various others that i like were default installed
there was more little annoyances that gnome based install cleared up but i am getting tired and cant think of anything else now.

[JimmyJazz]

Hahaha! I'm very sorry for the offtopic.. but when someone writes..

"acting a fool."

I allways think of Mr T.

I pity the fool that compares me to Mr. T

[ttallos]

and last but not least annoying thing with a kde install that gnome cleared up was
all my drives now have icons in the computer section. With kde all the icons for my drives would all dissapear after the first reboot after install. I would have to type / in the address bar to get to my hard drive.

[JimmyJazz]

the main reason I don't use KDE at this point is because it does not handle Samba mounted drives on my network very well. Also I use alot of GTK apps (Firefox, Gimp, Gaim, ect...) and they go really slow in KDE :(

[ttallos]

Ill keep that in mind thanks for the info.

[Rackerz]

Seems to be a lot of KDE haters in here. Well from my experience, KDE may look 'full up' but it's actually not. It runs just as well Gnome does in most instances (from my personal experience). I suppose it all depends on opinion, some people may just get an instant idea of KDE and don't really want to like it.

[prizrak]

I used to use KDE on ASP Linux, and RedHat. Tried out Kubuntu and it was really buggy on my laptop for some reason, like parts of options were cut off that I needed to use, wi-fi just plain refused to work even tho it ran OOTB on Ubuntu. I do think there is alot of bloat on KDE but it's hihgly customizeable. I think my favorite so far is XFCE but it doesn't auto mount USB drivers (well not on my machine) and I found I had to keep alot of Gnome stuff installed anyways. I think with a little work (expanding the amount of GUI driven system tools for one) would make it the best DE better ;) I guess what I'm saying is that both are jsut fine, Kubuntu seems less stable than Ubuntu but Ubuntu is more integrated and a more mature project.

[Adrian]

Why does there seem to be a trend among many hard core programmers that they prefere gnome? Only that has been my experience.

Most C++ programmers I know prefer KDE. QT is really nice if you're into C++.

This QT vs GTK comparison might be amusing to some:
http://phil.freehackers.org/kde/cmp-toolkits.html
(Take it for what it is :) )


In Ubuntu yes Gnome is more stable.
This isn't true on all distros though.
I'm pretty sure we can look foward to better KDE support in the future though.

True. I haven't had a single crash on my SUSE KDE system since I installed it (in the beginning of December), and I've used it extensively.

[Viro]

I prefer GNOME to KDE even though I started with KDE and used it for more than 2 years. To me, GNOME just looks much neater, and you don't get bombarded with options that you aren't going to use. An example of this is, compare the KDE Control centre with the preferences in GNOME. It can be argued that KDE's Control Centre provides more control for the user by providing far more tweakable options, but for most users those options are meaningless. This is one instance where less is more, IMHO nevertheless, this example seems to illustrate the general design principle of KDE apps. Do as much as possible! Nothing wrong with it, and I'm glad there is GNOME as an alternative to KDE for people who don't feel the need to tweak the hell out of everything.

[Viro]

This QT vs GTK comparison might be amusing to some:
http://phil.freehackers.org/kde/cmp-toolkits.html
(Take it for what it is :) )


It was amusing, though highly uninformative :). It's not very fair to compare lines of code between C and C++ given that GTK+ is quite object-oriented while C has no features to support object-orientation. Things you get for free in C++ like virtual tables (to implement polymorphism) you have to manually code in C as a large look up table or switch statement.

What would be more interesting would be to see how long it took to write the code. From my experience, it's just much easier to write C code as you can pretty much start with a vague design and jump straight to coding and as more details slowly emerge, it doesn't greatly impact your initial design. Not so with C++, where I've found that I need to carefully design my programs or I end up with code that is quite bloated or unintuitive. As yet, there has been no conclusive study that demonstrates that object-oriented programming actually boosts productivity.

Nevertheless, I never write GTK+ code. Instead I use wxWidgets (wxGTK on Linux) as it provides an object-oriented GUI framework that wraps around GTK+. But I digress... ;)

[L33tZ]

In my experience, Gnome is far more stable than KDE. I have lots of problems with KDE when I use it. It crashes frequently, and I do not like the layout of it. I tried Kubuntu, but didn't like it at all, so I went to Ubuntu and loved it.

-Kevin

[tseliot]

In my experience, Gnome is far more stable than KDE. I have lots of problems with KDE when I use it. It crashes frequently, and I do not like the layout of it. I tried Kubuntu, but didn't like it at all, so I went to Ubuntu and loved it.

-Kevin
I really love GNOME and I use it in Ubuntu. KDE in Breezy has several bugs therefore I don't use it.

Anyhow I use KDE in Fedora and it doesn't seem to have any problems whatsoever.

[UbuWu]

In my experience they have both been very stable. Most crashes are in apps like firefox and openoffice.

[Sef]

2 the time was stuck on military time with kde

I love having a 24 hour clock. Wish Gnome would default to it, but easy enough to change to it. With cursor on the time: right click (or left click, if you're a lefty) ---> preferences ----> click on the arrow after the 12 ----> highlight the 24 ---> click close.

[newuser111]

One interesting observation is that the multimedia keys on the keyboard and volume control keys work out of the box on gnome/ubuntu but don't work in KDE

[aysiu]

One interesting observation is that the multimedia keys on the keyboard and volume control keys work out of the box on gnome/ubuntu but don't work in KDE That's been my experience as well. I also found the Win key worked "properly" in KDE but not Gnome, but that can be fixed easily (System > Preferences > Keyboard).