Linsux.org wraps up their visit to UF

[linsux]

We're not against Open Source, or even Linux for that matter. We want to improve and help make it better, we just happen to feel that the community is hypocritical and somewhat dumb. The mindset that some of you guys have is mind boggling. Linux won't become a viable desktop solution by shouting and screaming about how bad Windows is, or how proprietary software is evil and illegal.

Sure, there's Windows fanboys but they still don't act like the Apple/Linux camp does, and even if they do it's most likely because someone in the other two communities aggravated them to the point where they get pissed enough to lower themselves to their level.

There's a censored article for viewing in our news section, I don't think I should post to it directly.

We would like to thank all of the members who welcomed us into your community. We'll probably stop by again sometime.

[Swarms]

You should stick around, you are quite needed.

[dragos240]

bye

[linsux]

You should stick around, you are quite needed.

I think our members will probably continue to add their thoughts here, though not in such an organized manner like we did recently.

[forestpiskie]

I forgot you were here - which I guess would be a good thing - see you next time.

[Tipped OuT]

I forgot you were here - which I guess would be a good thing -
:lolflag:

[forestpiskie]

I forgot you were here - which I guess would be a good thing - see you next time.

mmm - that could be read in 2 ways - I meant it nicely :)

[linsux]

I forgot you were here - which I guess would be a good thing - see you next time.

Good thing? We didn't break any rules or anything, and most of the staff welcomed us.

I had an idea though, maybe we should bring back some of the rules and elitism of the older Linux community and use them here for a week, just to see how long people last. Me and my community would be glad to take place as the UF staff and make this happen!

[Namtabmai]

Good of you to stop by, hopefully a few of your members will stick around.

Linux ( just like anything else ) needs opposing views to keep it on track, and as long as your members raise and conduct well thought out arguments they are more than welcome in my mind.

From the posts I thought where by your members ( little hard to tell who was actually a linsux.org member ) the majority handled themselves admirable. The only thing I would suggest is that the try and bring on board new topics, so many avenues of discussion seemed to be ones that have been heard so many times before.

[forestpiskie]

mmm - that could be read in 2 ways - I meant it nicely :)

Good thing? We didn't break any rules or anything, and most of the staff welcomed us.

We didn't break any rules or anything, and most of the staff welcomed us - is what I meant by it :)

[linsux]

We didn't break any rules or anything, and most of the staff welcomed us - is what I meant by it :)

Sorry, didn't catch your second post :p

[forestpiskie]

Sorry, didn't catch your second post :p

welcome - and see you next time :)

[rpwdh]

Thanks for being insulting and crusty!

No problem. It seems to be the preferred form of communication at your site.

Just trying to be a good host and make you feel at home!

Buh Bye!

[hanzomon4]

Your forums are hilarious... geeks with a sense of humor who knew.

[linsux]

Your forums are hilarious... geeks with a sense of humor who knew.

Too bad most of the Linux community can't laugh at itself, is it insecurity?

rpwdh:

Just because it's alright on another site doesn't mean you can do it here, whether you have a gripe with us or not, there's no point in breaking the rules of this site just so you can spit on me.

[wieman01]

Good thing? We didn't break any rules or anything, and most of the staff welcomed us.

I had an idea though, maybe we should bring back some of the rules and elitism of the older Linux community and use them here for a week, just to see how long people last. Me and my community would be glad to take place as the UF staff and make this happen!
What benefit would that bring?

[wieman01]

Guys, as a general reminder, keep it civil please. Flaming won't get us anywhere. I don't want to close this thread.

[linsux]

What benefit would that bring?

It was actually a joke. I thought it would be funny to see UF act like the older newgroups/communities. So many heads would be bitten off :)

[wieman01]

It was actually a joke. I thought it would be funny to see UF act like the older newgroups/communities. So many heads would be bitten off :)
You got me there. :-)

[Bölvaður]

I forgot you were here - which I guess would be a good thing - see you next time.

ditto that, but I was thinking more of how little I have noticed them. Did they even post in the absolute beginners forum?

[pwnst*r]

lol @ crusty

[linsux]

ditto that, but I was thinking more of how little I have noticed them. Did they even post in the absolute beginners forum?

I answered a few support questions. I didn't really track what the rest of us did.

Here's some of the topics we started:

Should Ubuntu Make a FreeBSD release? (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7291860#post7291860)
FreeBSD users here? (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7285627#post7285627)
Should Linux users cut the self-righteousness? (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1160435)

[Name change]

I think that I'll still participate at this forum even though "our" stay has ended.
I was here before "we" at Linsux decided to visit you and I'm staying.
I don't promise to be a productive member of UF, I'll probably stay more or less in confines of Community cafe as it has interesting posts...
Also the userbase of UF is so specific that it's fun to pretend doing a anthropological research on it :D.
So I'll see you around :D.

OT:
Only thing I can't log in in UF from Konqueror. That's my only critique.
But that's OT. I'll probably post this again in the right place.

[forestpiskie]

Did they even post in the absolute beginners forum?Not that I saw, but I wasn't tracking - that said there are plenty of other users here who don't so so either.

You got me thereGot me too, I just ignored it :)

[linsux]

Not that I saw, but I wasn't tracking - that said there are plenty of other users here who don't so so either.

Got me too, I just ignored it :)

It wouldn't be overly hard, seeing as half the community would leave and all the new posts would only have to consist of RTFM and GTFO.

[Sand & Mercury]

These forums could use more members like the linsux guys that have visited. People who respect the conduct of the community but also have a head on their shoulders and call a spade a spade. Kudos.

[linsux]

These forums could use more members like the linsux guys that have visited. People who respect the conduct of the community but also have a head on their shoulders and call a spade a spade. Kudos.

You can help: Whenever you see someone pointlessly bashing Windows, making Linux up to be the greatest thing ever and acting like a Linux Youth (http://linsux.org/index.php/topic,125.msg369.html#msg369), stand up and say something. We need to start telling these people that this isn't the kind of behaviour that the community needs.

[doas777]

so long folks. have fun doing whatever it is that you do.

I checked out your forums, and i think i see whats going on over there. not my style, but have fun.

I guess your boards seem like a good place for rants, and frustration, and anger, and trolling, but not a lot getting done otherwise. i guess catharsis is an end unto itself. if i need to rant I guess yours is the place to do it, but I kinda outgrew that some years ago.

[Namtabmai]

Totally agree with you there Linsux, assuming that you hold the same standard for anyone pointlessly bashing Linux?

[linsux]

Totally agree with you there Linsux, assuming that you hold the same standard for anyone pointlessly bashing Linux?

I certainly do, because I'm a Linux user myself. If I see someone pointlessly bashing Linux, I'll correct them.

[Sand & Mercury]

You can help: Whenever you see someone pointlessly bashing Windows, making Linux up to be the greatest thing ever and acting like a Linux Youth (http://linsux.org/index.php/topic,125.msg369.html#msg369), stand up and say something. We need to start telling these people that this isn't the kind of behaviour that the community needs.
Tha's how I roll, brah.

[rpwdh]

Too bad most of the Linux community can't laugh at itself, is it insecurity?

rpwdh:

Just because it's alright on another site doesn't mean you can do it here, whether you have a gripe with us or not, there's no point in breaking the rules of this site just so you can spit on me.

You are correct. Please accept my apology.

[billgoldberg]

There's a censored article for viewing in our news section, I don't think I should post to it directly.

We would like to thank all of the members who welcomed us into your community. We'll probably stop by again sometime.

You guys really need to get ( :p ) over yourselves.

[Idefix82]

so long folks. have fun doing whatever it is that you do.

I checked out your forums, and i think i see whats going on over there. not my style, but have fun.

I guess your boards seem like a good place for rants, and frustration, and anger, and trolling, but not a lot getting done otherwise. i guess catharsis is an end unto itself. if i need to rant I guess yours is the place to do it, but I kinda outgrew that some years ago.


Totally agree. I don't really see what this site is supposed to achieve, Linsux. Certainly, if I was a mindless Linux fan, I would definitely not be converted by the sort of name calling and the disgusting language on your site.

[gymophett]

You should probably stick around. Sure you guys start some flare ups, but we need to see both sides of situations. Had fun arguing with you guys. :P

[hanzomon4]

Too bad most of the Linux community can't laugh at itself, is it insecurity?



No.

They're Jedi

[pwnst*r]

which is worse.

[Giant Speck]

You guys really need to get over yourselves.

Fixed it for you. ;)

[linsux]

Totally agree. I don't really see what this site is supposed to achieve, Linsux. Certainly, if I was a mindless Linux fan, I would definitely not be converted by the sort of name calling and the disgusting language on your site.

If you bypass the swearing and such, you'll see the message. It wouldn't matter anyway, because converting some of these people is impossible no matter what you do. I don't buy into political correctness or censorship.

[lisati]

Disagreements aren't necessarily a bad thing: if we handle them well we'll all end up better off.

[hanzomon4]

If you bypass the swearing and such, you'll see the message. It wouldn't matter anyway, because converting some of these people is impossible no matter what you do. I don't buy into political correctness or censorship.

Preach brother.. preach the word!! LOL

[gymophett]

If you bypass the swearing and such, you'll see the message. It wouldn't matter anyway, because converting some of these people is impossible no matter what you do. I don't buy into political correctness or censorship.

How about creating a non-swearing friendly community in the first place. It's hard to bypass so much bad language.

[Namtabmai]

Why? There is nothing wrong with using swear words. They are just another part of the English language.

They are adults ( well most of them I assume :) ) and should be allowed to act like it.

[linsux]

How about creating a non-swearing friendly community in the first place. It's hard to bypass so much bad language.

Opening a section where swearing isn't allowed is under consideration. Though, this section will still allow the crustyness and douchbaggery that is present with the swearing in the rest of the forum.

Also, our serious content tends to contain little swearing, like this one: http://linsux.org/index.php/topic,125.0.html

[rpwdh]

If you bypass the swearing and such, you'll see the message. It wouldn't matter anyway, because converting some of these people is impossible no matter what you do. I don't buy into political correctness or censorship.

But if you want to present an idea to someone, isn't it better that you make the message as palatable as possible? If you offend people you will turn them off from even giving you a chance to present your point of view.

Look what just happened between us before. I (wrongly) formulated an opinion of what kind of person you are due to the site.
Not meant as a slam but the people you associate with as much a factor in how people view you as how you behave is.

[monsterstack]

Opening a section where swearing isn't allowed is under consideration. Though, this section will still allow the crustyness and douchbaggery that is present with the swearing in the rest of the forum.

Also, our serious content tends to contain little swearing, like this one: http://linsux.org/index.php/topic,125.0.html

I registered at your forums. They are truly hilarious. I say that honestly, and not as some stupid ironic flame. I am loving the free and easy use of swearwords. Well done.

[Giant Speck]

Linsux isn't supposed to be for friendly conversation or discussion. I use it to talk about things that I would get banned for talking about here.

[Namtabmai]

But if you want to present an idea to someone, isn't it better that you make the message as palatable as possible? If you offend people you will turn them off from even giving you a chance to present your point of view.

Look what just happened between us before. I (wrongly) formulated an opinion of what kind of person you are due to the site.
Not meant as a slam but the people you associate with as much a factor in how people view you as how you behave is.

Almost, but what one person defines as offensive differs from what another person does. If you by pass your own preconceptions and pay attention to the content of a post you'll find that you won't misconstrue someone's intent.

[lisati]

The "Swear words" recuring discussion, huh?

Here's my $0.02: why do we need to use language that seems to have a preoccupation with bodily functions? It's not necessary and if we take the time to think about what we say there's always the possibility that what we say will carry more weight.

[miegiel]

For what it's worth, I really like this forum for all the gurus and noobs and everyone in between. Policing the forums in regard to political and religious threads is a good thing too. If that's your thing there are plenty other forums for that. And as for being allowed to speak your mind freely, you're allowed to do that, you're just not allowed to call names and insult people. If you can't speak your mind freely without calling names and insulting that's something for you to work on I guess.

To me this forum's members, with all their different backgrounds and skill levels, helping each other along makes this forum a really interesting place. I swear, a lion would help a zebra to fix his xorg.conf here. ;)

Now what would happen if there was a "What to do about the lion menace" thread here, huh?

[linsux]

But if you want to present an idea to someone, isn't it better that you make the message as palatable as possible? If you offend people you will turn them off from even giving you a chance to present your point of view.

Look what just happened between us before. I (wrongly) formulated an opinion of what kind of person you are due to the site.
Not meant as a slam but the people you associate with as much a factor in how people view you as how you behave is.

We understand that there's issues with some of our site rules. Most people refuse to join our site because they're scared of us, along with the problem you pointed out. It's a double edged sword, we want freedom of speech, we also know that nobody will listen to us if we're quiet and polite.

[hanzomon4]

I think part of being an intelligent, well rounded, human being is not being scared off by the word ****

[Name change]

I see that this went a bit off topic, but still...
Swear words are bringing you cool points all the cool kids are using them :D
No, but seriously:
Swear words are mostly use to describe emotional stance that wouldn't be described as good with other words.

I'll give you an example (and risk infraction for it :D):
Saying I don't give a f*ck or ***** is completely different as saying
I'm indifferent to this subject.
Both sentences are saying same thing )and could be considered cool), but one is filed with emotions and one is showing the lack of them.
Do you see what I mean?

[doas777]

Linsux isn't supposed to be for friendly conversation or discussion. I use it to talk about things that I would get banned for talking about here.

that seems congruent with my observations. Seems reasonable enough, but it does call into question the veracity of their philosophy.

heh. I may have to create an account. after all, the age of anonymous slander on the Internet in the US is almost over anyway, so i might as well get in on some while the gettin's good.

[jrusso2]

Why? There is nothing wrong with using swear words. They are just another part of the English language.

They are adults ( well most of them I assume :) ) and should be allowed to act like it.

You have not been to their website I would hardly say they act like adults there.

[lisati]

I think part of being an intelligent, well rounded, human being is not being scared off by the word ****

I'm not scared of blanked out words: the problems is that sometimes there are better ways of saying things. Let's move on....

[Namtabmai]

You have not been to their website I would hardly say they act like adults there.

And you obviously haven't been around many adults. The word adult differs greatly from the Oxford Dictionary definition and how adults actually act.

[hanzomon4]

I'm not scared of blanked out words: the problems is that sometimes there are better ways of saying things. Let's move on....

Hahaha!!!

[linsux]

I'm not scared of blanked out words: the problems is that sometimes there are better ways of saying things. Let's move on....

And sometimes swears are the best way of saying things. I've had it out with people on our forum who swear just for the fun of it. Swearing in context is a good thing.

[Keithhed]

The "Swear words" recuring discussion, huh?

Here's my $0.02: why do we need to use language that seems to have a preoccupation with bodily functions? It's not necessary and if we take the time to think about what we say there's always the possibility that what we say will carry more weight.

+1 I enjoy this forum because of the "clean" nature of it. No heavy debate outside of topic. No swearing. No heavy flaming.

[Crafty Kisses]

I haven't even really read this thread, In fact I've read very little, I wasn't even aware people from other forums were "visiting" the Ubuntu Forums. So from my understanding, you guys want to bring elitism back to the Linux community? Please correct me if I'm wrong. If that's the case then to me that kind of defeats the purpose of a community. Well anyway I hope you enjoyed your stay friends.

[hanzomon4]

I think I get the linsux community because it reminds me of fornits

[Closed_Port]

i haven't even really read this thread, in fact i've read very little, i wasn't even aware people from other forums were "visiting" the ubuntu forums. So from my understanding, you guys want to bring elitism back to the linux community? Please correct me if i'm wrong. If that's the case then to me that kind of defeats the purpose of a community. Well anyway i hope you enjoyed your stay friends.
rtfm!

Edit:
He, he, this is funny. Ubuntuforums won't let me write in all caps, so it's rtfm now. Thanks for taking care of me ubuntuforums...

[linsux]

The "Swear words" recuring discussion, huh?

Here's my $0.02: why do we need to use language that seems to have a preoccupation with bodily functions? It's not necessary and if we take the time to think about what we say there's always the possibility that what we say will carry more weight.

In the US your $0.02 would work. There's a lot of other countries out there and a lot of them don't do censorship. The most popular news channel in my country had two instances of the word "F**K" in their main broadcast over the last week, I surely don't have a problem with it.

Though, everyone is entitled to their beliefs and they don't don't have to visit sites that contain such content. It's words people, the harder you try to hide and remove it, the more impact the words have on you.

Can we end the swearing (offtopic) discussion now?

[Keithhed]

Can we end the swearing (offtopic) discussion now?

It seems that visitors to your site equate it with swearing. I agree though, there is no swearing here. Not really open for debate.

[linsux]

It seems that visitors to your site equate it with swearing. I agree though, there is no swearing here. Not really open for debate.

Are you allowed to smoke weed here?

[Keithhed]

I don't think that is in the code of conduct. so maybe? lol

[rpwdh]

We understand that there's issues with some of our site rules. Most people refuse to join our site because they're scared of us, along with the problem you pointed out. It's a double edged sword, we want freedom of speech, we also know that nobody will listen to us if we're quiet and polite.

I can see your point but you must realise that you are representing and recommending those forums. I've seen threads there that are just a string of expletives and insults. It's... trollish. (Did I just invent a word?)

In the end (and I may very well be wrong) I feel that this behaviour damages the cause it seeks to promote. I wouldn't mind learning something new but the presentation is not good.
If you'll forgive the analogy, it's like eating a steak in the restaurant bathroom.

I guess it comes down to what your personal views are and the type of people you choose to associate with.

That's why there are different forums, I guess...

[Namtabmai]

If you'll forgive the analogy, it's like eating a steak in the restaurant bathroom.

Given most countries health codes, eating a steak in a bathroom should be perfectly safe it's only your preconditions that hold you back from enjoying the experience.

Very good analogy.

[rpwdh]

Given most countries health codes, eating a stake in a bathroom should be perfectly safe it's only your preconditions that hold you back from enjoying the experience.

Very good analogy.

:lolflag:

[Giant Speck]

I haven't even really read this thread, In fact I've read very little, I wasn't even aware people from other forums were "visiting" the Ubuntu Forums. So from my understanding, you guys want to bring elitism back to the Linux community? Please correct me if I'm wrong. If that's the case then to me that kind of defeats the purpose of a community. Well anyway I hope you enjoyed your stay friends.

Actually, you have it completely backwards. We want to remove the elitism from the Linux community. At least, the senseless, uneducated, "just because" elitism.

[Giant Speck]

Given most countries health codes, eating a stake in a bathroom should be perfectly safe it's only your preconditions that hold you back from enjoying the experience.

Very good analogy.

Eating a stake would be very painful. Though, I imagine you'd get a lot of fiber from it. :p

[rpwdh]

Eating a stake would be very painful. Though, I imagine you'd get a lot of fiber from it. :p

I was waiting for someone to catch that! :cool:

[Namtabmai]

bah, I really shouldn't be so reliant on Firefox's spell checker to catch things like that. :(

[Viva]

Good riddance. How can you claim to be constructive with a domain like "Linux sux"?

[linsux]

Good riddance. How can you claim to be constructive with a domain like "Linux sux"?

I don't claim to be constructive. I can probably point to a few people who do feel that our views are constructive and needed, read back into the thread and see.

[days_of_ruin]

Dateline Sunday May 24:

" A few random potty mouth punks leave a web forum, make pointless threads and ... who snuck this crap into my script?"

[pwnst*r]

that's a sidesplitter.

[rtw860]

Haha I no the guy who runs that site and if only you guys new him, there is a very interesting reason why he runs that site lol.

[linsux]

Haha I no the guy who runs that site and if only you guys new him, there is a very interesting reason why he runs that site lol.

Do I know you?

[Mohamedzv2]

Should I assume that Giant Speck is part of Linsux forums? Because honestly, he's the only one I really saw around here except in the other thread telling us about you guys coming here. Anyways, I hope you guys had a good time and come back soon. Pointing out faults, whether in a rude or good manner, should always be welcomed.

[Giant Speck]

Should I assume that Giant Speck is part of Linsux forums? Because honestly, he's the only one I really saw around here except in the other thread telling us about you guys coming here. Anyways, I hope you guys had a good time and come back soon. Pointing out faults, whether in a rude or good manner, should always be welcomed.

Yes.

Like I said before, I'm probably the most active on Ubuntu Forums out of all the Linsux members that have been here. I've also been posting here a lot more continuously than most of the other members.

[Fingers & Thumbs]

It often seems that the first people to get upset when their choice of os is spoken ill of, are the very people who are likely to offend others about their choice. If any Os/distro was perfect, there would be no reason to improve it, no need to upgrade to a new one, ever. It really boils down to personal preference, and it seems to me, the linsux guys are capable of having some good, fun banter whuch, I feel is quite healthy, not to mention, a good laugh. Much better than many who os bash, reason is generally wasted on such people.

As for the swearing thing, I **** and **** like the best of them, but find it inappropriate here, since the Ubuntu philosophy is one of an all inclusive community and such language would repel a huge number of people, and yes that all inclusive nature means that linsux members are welcome provided they abide by the ToC while present.

Thanks for stopping by, I've just had a look at your site and had a right good laugh. I may not agree with all the content but enjoyed the tongue in cheek nature of the site, and will be checking back, perhaps even joining. Who knows? And to all Linsux members who are hanging around, Giant Speck etc, Welcome.

[toupeiro]

Whatever.

[schauerlich]

Whatever.

and Ever Amen is an excellent album, I agree.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whatever_and_Ever_Amen

[betrunkenaffe]

Always welcome imo, I liked the mag, when's next one due?

[CJ Master]

Whatever.

+1 :p

[HereZiz]

It often seems that the first people to get upset when their choice of os is spoken ill of, are the very people who are likely to offend others about their choice. If any Os/distro was perfect, there would be no reason to improve it, no need to upgrade to a new one, ever.

Agreed, but I'd add the following.

It is just an OS. When "just" an OS becomes more, it became for the person who uses it, loves it, tinkers with it, etc. Such a person must realize that vast majority of other people uses OS just as a glue layer between the software and hardware, and just want to use what works. Just want to check email, browse the net, watch videos, play games, write documents, create presentations, etc...

So if the minority who likes to tinker with the glue layer starts behaving like that's what everyone should do, that's where the fun stops. Especially because tinkering with the OS then becomes the "right" way to do and any complaint about "but it doesn't work for me", or "I don't wanna sip through endless manpages and edit xyz.conf just to do Y" is met with ridicule, elitism.

And then the majority of discussions boil down to whether the thinkering with the OS, done and enjoyed by really a minority in the population of computer users, is "desktop ready" where such term is applied to the entire population, vast majority of which wants it to "just work".

Back in the 50's people plugged cords and manipulated circuit boards to get the computer doing what they want. In 21st century people want computers to work stuff for them, with minimum amount of clicks and keystrokes as possible. Tinkering with the OS -- however fun and educational for those who want to tinker -- seems too similar to 1950's.

And that's where the problem is.

[schauerlich]

If any Os/distro was perfect, there would be no reason to improve it, no need to upgrade to a new one, ever.

Which is why I still run Window ME.

[Paqman]

I guess your boards seem like a good place for rants, and frustration, and anger, and trolling, but not a lot getting done otherwise. i guess catharsis is an end unto itself. if i need to rant I guess yours is the place to do it, but I kinda outgrew that some years ago.

+1

It's a shame, because a lot of what these guys are saying makes sense. The trouble is that they don't seem to be able to ignore the idiot fringe. Personally I think allowing the very people you look down on to drive you away from a community is pretty stupid. If these "Linux Youths" are so stupid and annoying (which they are) then why pay them so much attention?

[chucky chuckaluck]

You have not been to their website I would hardly say they act like adults there.

indeed. poor, little buggers have no idea just how much fun acting like an adult can be.

[hobo14]

It's almost a mistake to refer to "them" in the plural; most of it's just the owner of the website (who refers to himself as "us/we"), and a couple of others who make up 95% of the posts there.

After reading this (http://linsux.org/index.php?topic=200.0) post there, (funny, I recommend it) I am convinced this guy needs a big hug from his mummy, and a smack on the bottom to make him realise there's more to life than being a career troll.

[Idefix82]

Agreed, but I'd add the following.

It is just an OS. When "just" an OS becomes more, it became for the person who uses it, loves it, tinkers with it, etc. Such a person must realize that vast majority of other people uses OS just as a glue layer between the software and hardware, and just want to use what works. Just want to check email, browse the net, watch videos, play games, write documents, create presentations, etc...


1. Most people don't need to tinker with their Linux installation if they don't want to. Keeping a Windows machine out of mischief is much more work in my experience.

2. I have not seen anybody on these forums or elsewhere preaching that everybody should tinker with the OS as their main hobby. An argument that I hear more often is that one should think about who to give one's money and what will be done with this money.

3. You live in a simple world if an OS is 'just' an OS. A car is 'just' a car, right? All it has to do is drive. Why would you care, how many exhausts it spits into the atmosphere, as long as you can afford the fuel? And a bank is just a bank, correct? Why would you care that your bank got rich selling weapons to African war regions? It's none of your business, as long as they keep your money safe and pay you decent interest, right? And who cares, whether or not the software company that you have just given several hundred dollars to regularly mobs better competitors out of business, usually with illegal means? They have given you an OS and that's all you wanted.

I feel sorry for people who think this way. But I feel more sorry for the people around them.

[SomeGuyDude]

Can someone catch me up here? Who the hell is "linsux" and why should I care that they're leaving?

[dragos240]

Can someone catch me up here? Who the hell is "linsux" and why should I care that they're leaving?

They are from a forum that believe that the general community of linux users are a bit full of themselves. They were here to try to reduce that, and help us.

[CJ Master]

It's almost a mistake to refer to "them" in the plural; most of it's just the owner of the website (who refers to himself as "us/we"), and a couple of others who make up 95% of the posts there.

After reading this (http://linsux.org/index.php?topic=200.0) post there, (funny, I recommend it) I am convinced this guy needs a big hug from his mummy, and a smack on the bottom to make him realise there's more to life than being a career troll.

ROFL! That's great! Very funny read, I'd recommend it. :D

...wait, was I supposed to take his post seriously?? If so, then dude - you haven't used linux within the last, um, TEN years have you?

[Keithhed]

Can someone catch me up here? Who the hell is "linsux" and why should I care that they're leaving?

+1 And why are we still talking about them? lol

[SomeGuyDude]

They are from a forum that believe that the general community of linux users are a bit full of themselves. They were here to try to reduce that, and help us.

So a bunch of people thought they would go on a crusade aimed at making the Linux population less arrogant. Gotcha. Well I hope they achieved this goal, otherwise announcing their exeunt from the UF means they all got bored and gave up.

[XubuRoxMySox]

Well excuse me, Idefix86, for being one of those "just an OS" people, but I suspect we are in the majority. And just because we may prefer to run applications rather than running our OS doesn't mean we don't care about global warming (is is it global whining - an excuse to surrender more personal liberties to an ever-expanding government that invented the "crisis" - and many others), corporate greed, starving children, or whatever.

It's a tool. A wonderful, powerful tool for which I am very appreciative, and one which I hope to contribute to in some way (I joined a project), but "just" a tool nonetheless. Lighten up.

-Robin

[SomeGuyDude]

(is is it global whining - an excuse to surrender more personal liberties to an ever-expanding government that invented the "crisis" - and many others), corporate greed, starving children, or whatever.

:lolflag:

That's a good one. You almost made me think you believe that, but it would take a comically ignorant person for that to be the case.

[chucky chuckaluck]

3. You live in a simple world if an OS is 'just' an OS. A car is 'just' a car, right? All it has to do is drive. Why would you care, how many exhausts it spits into the atmosphere, as long as you can afford the fuel? And a bank is just a bank, correct? Why would you care that your bank got rich selling weapons to African war regions? It's none of your business, as long as they keep your money safe and pay you decent interest, right? And who cares, whether or not the software company that you have just given several hundred dollars to regularly mobs better competitors out of business, usually with illegal means? They have given you an OS and that's all you wanted.

even a rose is no longer just a rose.

[wieman01]

even a rose is no longer just a rose.
Things do change.

[Mister LinOx]

Later, you guys. Have a safe trip back to Linsux! I hear the world wide web can be a dangerous place to travel at times.

[steeleyuk]

Later, you guys. Have a safe trip back to Linsux! I hear the world wide web can be a dangerous place to travel at times.

Are you suggesting that accidents can and will happen? :p

[tubezninja]

I think this thread has made it abundantly clear that the linsux.org visit changed or benefited absolutely nothing and no one.

(That's as much a knock on certain elements of UF as it is on certain elements of linsux.org, by the way.)

[bapoumba]

Hmm, it's hard to make a sequel as good as the first opus was. Sounds recurring to me, time to remove your subscriptions :KS

[wieman01]

Oh, come on, Bap. :-)

[bapoumba]

Oh, come on, Bap. :-)
Yay!

[dragos240]

Are you suggesting that accidents can and will happen? :p

Yes