View Full Version : which email client do u use?
neoflight
January 9th, 2006, 03:06 PM
i was wondering what email client to use. i have tried thunderbird and not that bad...what about you?
lisje
January 9th, 2006, 03:10 PM
I also use thunderbird... I used to use evolution but thunderbird turned out to be a better solution for me because I could use it in linux as well as in windows... although it is of no importance anymore... since I use linux almost 99,99% of the time..
kaamos
January 9th, 2006, 03:11 PM
I used to use thunderbird, but then switched to evolution because of the calendar functions and better integration with gnome. The mozilla lightning project seems interesting though.
Stormy Eyes
January 9th, 2006, 03:11 PM
I use Sylpheed. It's lighter than both Thunderbird and Evolution and looks better than both.
briancurtin
January 9th, 2006, 03:33 PM
i used evolution but it keeps dumping on me with something about exchange storage errors, which is a problem with my school and not evolution
in the meantime ive been using OWA (outlook web access, my school is on exchange), but i am going to look into sylpheed and possibly back into thunderbird
Arktis
January 9th, 2006, 03:49 PM
Screw email clients. They are vestigial pieces of software. Any halfway decent email provider (and most of the crappy ones too) is going to have a web based interface. Use that.
xequence
January 9th, 2006, 03:52 PM
None. I use gmail.
briancurtin
January 9th, 2006, 04:04 PM
Screw email clients. They are vestigial pieces of software. Any halfway decent email provider (and most of the crappy ones too) is going to have a web based interface. Use that.
why use a ****** webmail interface though?
id rather have the client open all the time, and be notified when i receive mail, rather than go out and check it. now i use gmail's interface for gmail, but for my school i get sick of using OWA and would rather have a client running
mstlyevil
January 9th, 2006, 04:10 PM
Thunderbird. I am used to it because that is what I used under Windows.
earobinson
January 9th, 2006, 04:11 PM
none, im all about gmail and web 2.0 apps in general
viscount
January 9th, 2006, 04:15 PM
two words = g mail
viscount
January 9th, 2006, 04:24 PM
why use a ****** webmail interface though?
id rather have the client open all the time, and be notified when i receive mail, rather than go out and check it. now i use gmail's interface for gmail, but for my school i get sick of using OWA and would rather have a client running
Why use a shite client interface?
Especially when you can just have a tab open in firefox and "be notified when I
recieve mail, rather than go out and check it." Thats the beauty of Ajax.
With a webmail interface I can check my mail from anywhere on earth using any operating system that can connect to the net and dont have to worry software incompatibilitys, or seting up server routing around firewalls, or configuring pop servers, or anything.. just open a browser, any browser.
But as far as the interface itself goes, well, I admit its not as pretty as
a client, and not as fast either. But all the functionality I need is there and
it is getting better all the time.
GMAIL: Filters + Labels + threads + Feeds + Search = joy
Moebius
January 9th, 2006, 04:35 PM
Screw email clients. They are vestigial pieces of software. Any halfway decent email provider (and most of the crappy ones too) is going to have a web based interface. Use that.
Problem is that without an internet connection, seing your email archive is dificult on those webmails :rolleyes:
I use Thunderbird, shared betwen Ubuntu and Windows (aka VPN machine)
BWF89
January 9th, 2006, 04:36 PM
I don't use any email client. I just log onto GMail.
aysiu
January 9th, 2006, 04:37 PM
There are a few reasons I like Thunderbird, the main one being that I can use it in Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux. The latest version (1.5) is really neat, though, because it can detach or delete attachments from emails and keep the email message on the server.
Stormy Eyes
January 9th, 2006, 05:14 PM
Screw email clients.
Hell no. My wife would kill me.
Any halfway decent email provider (and most of the crappy ones too) is going to have a web based interface. Use that.
Dude, I've got my own mail domain (starbreaker.net) on which I have several accounts. I also have an account through my office's mail server, and a yahoo account. If you think that I am going to deal with the quirks of 3 different webmail packages when I can instead make Sylpheed grab mail from all of my accounts and present it in plain text (the way it should be!), then you're nucking futs.
GeneralZod
January 9th, 2006, 05:18 PM
kmail! :)
aysiu
January 9th, 2006, 05:33 PM
If you think that I am going to deal with the quirks of 3 different webmail packages when I can instead make Sylpheed grab mail from all of my accounts and present it in plain text (the way it should be!), then you're nucking futs. I thought I was the only one who liked reading emails in plain text. I'm not alone!
Arktis
January 9th, 2006, 05:34 PM
Yeah okay, so there are like three situations where it would be beneficial to have an old-fashioned email client.
1.) You're known as 'Stormy Eyes' on the Ubuntu Forums.
2.) You're absolutely required by your employers and/or your own obsession to know exactly when you've got new mail, but your email provider hasn't gotten with the times and put out a lightweight tray application that monitors your account for new mail. Hey, somebody should come up with an open source cross platfom tool for this that can be used with any pop3 service and most of the popular free web based email providers. Maybe there already is one... dunno. Anyways...
3.) You're internet connection poops out, and you still want to read your old emails. Even though you can't reply to them. Heheheh. :rolleyes:
Web based email is the present and the future. I'm just waiting for everyone else to get up to speed. :cool: :razz:
majikstreet
January 9th, 2006, 05:35 PM
<3 <3 evolution :P I like thunderbird too though, but I need a calendar built in... and evo is just nice.. it pwns all others for me.
majikstreet
January 9th, 2006, 05:42 PM
Hell no. My wife would kill me.
LOL ROFLMAO
Stormy Eyes
January 9th, 2006, 05:58 PM
3.) You're internet connection poops out, and you still want to read your old emails. Even though you can't reply to them. Heheheh. :rolleyes:
I don't need to reply to emails my wife sent me when we were just starting to court each other, but I do want to read them from time to time, and I don't want to depend on strangers to preserve part of my life. If I wanted to use webmail, I could have used it for years. The fact that I insist on using a mail client ought to tell you something: webmail isn't for everyone, just like Linux isn't for everyone.
stimpack
January 9th, 2006, 06:00 PM
gmail through a browser, except when...
I need to send gpg encrypted mails then I use gmail through KMail.
aysiu
January 9th, 2006, 06:13 PM
Web based email is the present and the future. I'm just waiting for everyone else to get up to speed. :cool: :razz: The two aren't in competition with one another, and I believe they came out around the same time--if anything I think webmail was first.
They serve different purposes, and I use both, depending on the situation. If I'm traveling abroad, I use webmail. If I'm at home, I use an email client--it's the easiest way for me to check and view all of my five email accounts.
And my email client allows me to do things I either can't do in webmail or can't do easily. For example, if someone sends me a huge attachment along with a long email, and I want to save the email and delete the huge attachment, how do I do that in webmail? I don't. In Thunderbird, I right-click on the attachment and select "detach" or "delete." And if someone sends me email to one account, but I want to respond from another account, I can just click on the "From" drop-down menu and pick a different sender. Likewise, Thunderbird does autocomplete on people in my addressbook (my webmail clients do not do this). For these reasons, and many others, I find an email more convenient for my situation--I check email at home and I check five accounts.
If I had one account, simple needs, or I traveled a lot, I'd use webmail.
BSDFreak
January 9th, 2006, 06:32 PM
I don't need to reply to emails my wife sent me when we were just starting to court each other, but I do want to read them from time to time, and I don't want to depend on strangers to preserve part of my life. If I wanted to use webmail, I could have used it for years. The fact that I insist on using a mail client ought to tell you something: webmail isn't for everyone, just like Linux isn't for everyone.
Amen.
I used to use the web based e-mail that came with my broadband connection (spray.se) and one day their system crapped out, backups were applied, the backups were not the most current and i lost months of work.
I do understand the advantages with web mail in that you can check it from any computer, but you can still do that, even if you use an e-mail client at your primary computer, just set it to download messages without removing them from the server.
aysiu
January 9th, 2006, 07:08 PM
I do understand the advantages with web mail in that you can check it from any computer, but you can still do that, even if you use an e-mail client at your primary computer, just set it to download messages without removing them from the server. Or use IMAP instead of POP3.
Omnios
January 9th, 2006, 07:16 PM
I get the advanced Yahoo.mail service free with my isp with junk mail filtering and the ability to deleat off the server I start up my client only when I want to or am ready to get my emial from my mail client. It also virus scans my emial for me
imagine
January 9th, 2006, 07:20 PM
You're absolutely required by your employers and/or your own obsession to know exactly when you've got new mail, but your email provider hasn't gotten with the times and put out a lightweight tray application that monitors your account for new mail. Hey, somebody should come up with an open source cross platfom tool for this that can be used with any pop3 service and most of the popular free web based email providers. Maybe there already is one... dunno.
Yes there is. It exists for all kind of operating systems, sits in the tray or taskbar and checks for new mail every few minutes. It can even download, store and display new and old emails and do hundreds of other things. It's called Mail User Agent.
If you're prefering to use webmail, by all means do so. But don't go around telling that your way to handle emails would be superior to everything else or that webmail would be "the present and the future".
The present or future of the MUAs I use are certainly no scripts, which electronically parse, examine, store or do whatever with my emails.
Derek Djons
January 9th, 2006, 07:26 PM
Thunderbird for me. I like it's clean look, it's lightweigh and easy to maintain. Also the addressbook functions is straight to the basics. No fague overkilled business card information... just plain address and email data.
Arktis
January 9th, 2006, 07:30 PM
Yes there is. It exists for all kind of operating systems, sits in the tray or taskbar and checks for new mail every few minutes. It can even download, store and display new and old emails and do hundreds of other things. It's called Mail User Agent.
Awesome!
If you're prefering to use webmail, by all means do so. But don't go around telling that your way to handle emails would be superior to everything else or that webmail would be "the present and the future".
The present or future of the MUAs I use are certainly no scripts, which electronically parse, examine, store or do whatever with my emails.
Oh, come now. You're still using Hoary. :smile:
Well, anyways, I didn't intend to offend.
Buffalo Soldier
January 9th, 2006, 07:47 PM
Evolution in Ubuntu. Reason:
Appointment/task integration with GNOME clock
Contact and calendar
A sucker for everything GNOME
Using it for my GMail and college email accounts. Using Thunderbird in Windows.
BSDFreak
January 9th, 2006, 07:54 PM
Or use IMAP instead of POP3.
Yes, if it's supported It's a better choice.
Adrian
January 9th, 2006, 08:25 PM
I'm using KMail. Does what I want, i.e. lets me handle my mail.
astoltz
January 9th, 2006, 09:44 PM
I can't believe this thread has gone on this long without the word "Mutt" popping up at least once. Personally, I started using Pine a long time ago and have never found anything better.
briancurtin
January 9th, 2006, 09:56 PM
Why use a shite client interface?
Especially when you can just have a tab open in firefox and "be notified when I
recieve mail, rather than go out and check it." Thats the beauty of Ajax.
the notifications do not work in firefox. if you leave an IE window open, which i used to do when i used windows, you do get the notification on top of whatever application you have open along with the audio clip.
With a webmail interface I can check my mail from anywhere on earth using any operating system that can connect to the net and dont have to worry software incompatibilitys, or seting up server routing around firewalls, or configuring pop servers, or anything.. just open a browser, any browser.
yes, and i like that. however, when im at my desk id much rather use the client. if OWA had working notifications in firefox, it would make it much smoother to me. another ****** thing about the interface of OWA in firefox is the inability to have the viewing pane open on the bottom.
neoflight
January 11th, 2006, 01:36 AM
I can't believe this thread has gone on this long without the word "Mutt" popping up at least once. Personally, I started using Pine a long time ago and have never found anything better.
i myself use gnome...i forgot to add MUTT in the poll...sorry for that...i heard thats a good interface...
OneWingedAngel
January 11th, 2006, 02:22 AM
I use KMail (as a part of Kontact). I think it's much nicer than Tb (especially on a KDE desktop), plus Kontact integrates the organiser and RSS browser, as well as just mail & news.
briancurtin
January 11th, 2006, 02:29 AM
ive been using sylpheed thanks to Stormy Eyes' post about it. i like it a lot so far
joselin
January 11th, 2006, 02:30 AM
I used to use both evolution and gmail.
endersshadow
January 11th, 2006, 02:44 AM
First and foremost, I love mail-notification. I don't have to have a full email client running all the time just to know that I have new mail (as I did in Windows). Such a great little program that I couldn't live without.
Secondly, I had always used Thunderbird because that's what I was used to in Windows when I switched. Seeing Stormy Eyes's posts, I decided to give Sylpheed a try. I like it a lot, as I like having my email in plain text...I hate when people do frilly crap with their emails...
Thirdly, I have 3 email accounts, and about 10 different email aliases. A mail client lets me manage all of those accounts at once, and control which aliases I use...and all at the press of my little email button on my keyboard. If I didn't have a mail client, that would require me to use 3 different webmail sites. Why have to click around all over the place when I can just get it all with the press of one button? Webmail works great when all you have is a personal account through Gmail or something to that effect, but when you run two businesses plus being a full time student and an RA, and need your email to be consolidated, efficient, and easily accessible, email clients just rule the day.
fuscia
January 11th, 2006, 02:55 AM
i would like to use squirrel mail, but my e-mail comes through a pop server instead of an imap. what's the difference and could i get my mail through an imap using road runner?
aysiu
January 11th, 2006, 03:06 AM
Secondly, I had always used Thunderbird because that's what I was used to in Windows when I switched. Seeing Stormy Eyes's posts, I decided to give Sylpheed a try. I like it a lot, as I like having my email in plain text...I hate when people do frilly crap with their emails... You probably use Sylpheed for other reasons, too, but, just for the record, Thunderbird can also display email in plain text.
endersshadow
January 11th, 2006, 03:34 AM
You probably use Sylpheed for other reasons, too, but, just for the record, Thunderbird can also display email in plain text.
True, I forgot to mention that I like Sylpheed's shortcut keys, it's a little less bloated than Thunderbird, and I like that it doesn't depend on my web browser, the way Tb uses Firefox's Gecko engine...just something that reminds me of Outlook and IE and kind of worries me about the security issues.
It's not for everybody, but I suggest everybody give it a try...I'm rather impressed with it :-D
ssam
January 11th, 2006, 05:08 AM
thunderbird (in the past mail.app, kmail, eudora, and outlook), i also have a gmail account though i dont really use it.
note to someone above: email has been around since the 1960s, and the web since the early ninties. first webmail was hotmail in 1995 (later bought by microsoft).
there should not really be anything that a web interface can do that a local client can't do more efficiently. with web mail the interface has to be sent to your browser each time. local gtk/qt should be a far faster way of putting an interface on screen.
the being able to use webmail anywhere is hand, but my mail providers mostly have a webmail system aswell, so i can use that when i am on another computer.
i like that with local mail i am responsible for my data. i know people who have had to go though a webmail system and copy and paste emails out of it to save them, because the provider had decided not to be free anymore. also i am regularly away from an email connection and need access to my email.
i would like to try out a few other email clients, but it is always a large effort to move from one client to another. my main motivation it wanting a calendar, sunbird is too slow/buggy for general use, and it seems silly to use evolution for just its calendar. i have wondered about setting up a local imap server, but it seems a lot of effort.
majikstreet
January 11th, 2006, 05:14 PM
also: for my email on my websites, I have evolution set up to take the email through IMAP but I have it not delete the email on the server, so I can use my favourite webmail client on my website to check it, too.. btw: IlohaMail... it pwns.
neoflight
January 16th, 2006, 05:02 AM
i think i will use thunderbird....i am not looking for a pim....
neoflight
December 6th, 2006, 04:30 PM
i was wondering how to configure multiple gmail accounts. I know how to get the mails in separate folders...but what iam confsed at is to make thunderbird use separate smtp server to send emails.
it takes a default smtp server name for all gmail accounts and when someone replies it goes to that id....
am i overlooking something?
thanks
xmastree
December 6th, 2006, 04:36 PM
Any halfway decent email provider (and most of the crappy ones too) is going to have a web based interface. Use that.
Try signing up to a busy mailing list, and going through 300 emails in an evening. Some threads don't interest you? Delete them all quickly.
Reading a thread? That 2-3 seconds delay when clicking the next email is too long.
That's why I use an offline email program. thunderbird, in my case.
Webmail is ok for the odd message, but not for serious email.
LeslieL
December 6th, 2006, 04:37 PM
I agree. I use gmail & leave anything I want to keep around on their server. Why should I use up my disk space?
iPower
December 6th, 2006, 11:35 PM
none at this moment
JLB
December 6th, 2006, 11:49 PM
mutt ... because mutt rules! (I use it because of the rules anyhow)
dbbolton
December 7th, 2006, 12:07 AM
thunderbird.
kuja
December 7th, 2006, 02:36 AM
Other: Kmail
Rodneyck
December 7th, 2006, 02:56 AM
Evolution in Ubuntu. Reason:
Appointment/task integration with GNOME clock
Contact and calendar
A sucker for everything GNOME
Using it for my GMail and college email accounts. Using Thunderbird in Windows.
Me too! I was a long time Thunderbird user, even on Windoze, but I really liked what Evolution has to offer, calender, contacts, etc, and it is fast.
Now if only I could give Swiftfox/Firefox the ditch and switch to Epiphany, but unfortunately it is not quite on the same level yet. ](*,)
Circus-Killer
December 7th, 2006, 02:58 AM
well, before i started using gmail, i used to use thunderbird. if i were to start using POP mail again, i would go back to thunderbird.
xopher
December 7th, 2006, 06:00 AM
Thunderbird was what I used to use too. Now it's gmail..
GarethMB
December 7th, 2006, 09:41 AM
Kmail because i use KDE
amo-ej1
December 7th, 2006, 09:50 AM
_years_ ago I used kmail because kmail could handle multiple identities (which was really neat back then :p), then i switched some years to sylpheed-claws and since about two years (yeah starting to feel old now) i switched to thunderbird, mainly because of the 'out of the box' spam filtering.
gabhla
December 7th, 2006, 11:27 AM
At one time or another I think I've used them all. Evolution is very good; however, I finally settled on Thunderbird. Second choice is none - I'd use web based, favorite is gmail.
Kindred
December 7th, 2006, 11:31 AM
I've used Sylpheed Claws for a while now, the startup speed of Thunderbird bothered me.
deanlinkous
December 7th, 2006, 11:41 AM
balsa! http://balsa.gnome.org/
got wood? harder than pine! :D
doobit
December 7th, 2006, 11:41 AM
I really like Sylpheed, but I'm currently using Thunderbird.
I never do what I really like. It's matter of self discipline. ;)
bonzodog
December 7th, 2006, 11:45 AM
I have to admit that my email account isn't all that active, so I just stick to gmail, which i check maybe once a day, as I am now subscribed to a mailing list. When I wasn't, I used to get maybe 3 useful non-spam mails a week.
neoflight
December 7th, 2006, 01:29 PM
could someone teach me how to configure multiple outgoing servers for multiple gmail accounts please? thanks....
thunderbird only allows one outgoing server?
EDIT: I think i got some links explaining this...
EDIT: ok found it...here (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Multiple_SMTP_servers_(Thunderbird))
Rodneyck
December 7th, 2006, 01:40 PM
could someone teach me how to configure multiple outgoing servers for multiple gmail accounts please? thanks....
thunderbird only allows one outgoing server?
EDIT: I think i got some links explaining this...
FYI..you should probably make a separate thread, because in theory you are hijacking/changing the topic of this thread.
mechanic
December 13th, 2006, 10:49 AM
Hardly anyone admits to using Elm or Pine or Mutt I notice; IMAP users tend to go for bomb-proof clients which means Pine, and/or Mulberry for those who really want a graphical interface!
T-bird is getting better but still has many bugs (check the forums) the big advantage seems to be that theirs is the best compromise for those who have a mix of HTML and plain text mail. It also allows default settings for charset which Mulberry does not!
Pine is useful once set up, but setting filters and rules for colouring, labelling and so on is time consuming. I've not tried Evolution or Sylpheed yet, but the screenshots look good. Not quite so good as Outlook 2003 and later though!
I tend to move between clients fairly often because none of them is perfect and after a while the drawbacks tend to irritate. The biggest issue is SPAM however; I've never found anything as useful as MailWasher (on Windows, spit!) for rule-based decision support and speed of handling hundreds of messages at a time. If there were something like getmail on U. with whitelist and blacklist support, plus the ability to check with spamhaus and other databases, please let me know!
Regards, mechanic.
Rodneyck
December 13th, 2006, 12:17 PM
T-bird is getting better but still has many bugs (check the forums) the big advantage seems to be that theirs is the best compromise for those who have a mix of HTML and plain text mail. It also allows default settings for charset which Mulberry does not!
I really like T-bird, another fast email client with great spam catching abilities. I have used it for years, but something always struck me as odd. The size when all packaged up with my emails/folders was around 400 to 600mb. Now, I do have a lot of emails, but after going through and clearing out a bunch, especially those with attachments, it never really went down that much in size.
Then, I transferred my folders/emails to Evolution via an extension in Thunderbird to export to .mbox format. When I did this for the "inbox", I found in Evolution it also imported a ton of old emails into the Trash can, many I had deleted long (years) ago. I was amazed. It must have archived them somewhere and kept them hidden. So, I don't know if this is a bug, or what exactly, but at least it explained T-bird's bloat.
sailingboarder
December 13th, 2006, 12:27 PM
i used thunderbird back on windows, but since my switch to ubuntu i've used evolution, simply because its pre-installed and i haven't had any problem that would make me change
both are good programs, and i am happy using either one
mechanic
December 13th, 2006, 02:21 PM
I just tried the Sylpheed client and wasn't impressed. The font choices were weird and tiring on the eyes! Kmail is more flexible in appearance so I prefer it for browsing current mail. I also tried the Linux/Deb version of Mailwasher - which of course isn't open source or free. The fonts there were too large for convenience, and the black/white lists didn't seem to follow the same format as the Windows version so that's a pain. Still it does the basic job.
Regds, mechanic.
tbroderick
December 13th, 2006, 03:43 PM
Hardly anyone admits to using Elm or Pine or Mutt I notice;
I use Mutt.
xmastree
December 13th, 2006, 05:27 PM
So, I don't know if this is a bug, or what exactly, but at least it explained T-bird's bloat.To reduce the actual disk usage, you need to compact the folder after deleting things, otherwise it just marks the messages as deleted, but doesn't actually remove them.
nandasunu
December 13th, 2006, 05:29 PM
KMail all the way...
Rodneyck
December 13th, 2006, 05:33 PM
To reduce the actual disk usage, you need to compact the folder after deleting things, otherwise it just marks the messages as deleted, but doesn't actually remove them.
Wow, good to know if I ever switch back. Thanks.
Choad
December 13th, 2006, 05:36 PM
i use thunderbird atm, but i am annoyed at the start up time. i can hack it with firefox, because i only start it up once, but with thunderbird i start it up often
loading up gecko every time sucks.
please can someone recomend me a similar thing to thunderbird but that doesnt have a rendering engine (or at least a really basic one) so its just plain text, or plain text + pics. no html formatting needed. also GTK is a must
yabbadabbadont
December 13th, 2006, 06:42 PM
I voted for Thunderbird but, until the "referring messageid" bug is fixed, I'm using Evolution. Funny thing is, I submitted a bug to launchpad on a different issue and the confirmation e-mail triggered the bug in Thunderbird. (That is, it was downloaded, but not visible anywhere in the program...)
deanlinkous
December 13th, 2006, 09:37 PM
please can someone recomend me a similar thing to thunderbird but that doesnt have a rendering engine (or at least a really basic one) so its just plain text, or plain text + pics. no html formatting needed. also GTK is a must
not sure exactly what you are looking for but...
http://balsa.gnome.org/screenshots.html
mechanic
December 14th, 2006, 08:59 AM
IMAP users should be familiar with the Infinite Ink web pages which contain loads of information about setting up clients, remote filters and other things. In this context (comparing clients) for instance, see here:
http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/imap/isps/#clientsDesktop
Regds, m.
Colonel Kilkenny
December 14th, 2006, 09:30 AM
Opera in use. Web, news, email and feeds in same application and always open.
shining
December 14th, 2006, 09:33 AM
i use thunderbird atm, but i am annoyed at the start up time. i can hack it with firefox, because i only start it up once, but with thunderbird i start it up often
loading up gecko every time sucks.
Why not using seamonkey then instead of firefox + thunderbird ?
ubeauty
December 14th, 2006, 09:46 AM
I use evolution - after many happy years of thunderbird - just because it has calendar, contacts etc. AND it's the default email client in ubuntu. Oh, how I long for the fast, intelligent junk handling thunderbird has...but I don't miss the screw ups that seem to occur when you have all your stuff in your email client and the in box file gets really big!
Someday we'll have an evolution that is as shmick as thunderbird, or a thunderbird as business friendly as evolution.
neoflight
December 14th, 2006, 11:47 AM
Why not using seamonkey then instead of firefox + thunderbird ?
how is seamonkey? is it worth a try?..i am using thunderbird as i said before....but the interface is kinda commonplace...i wann try something more....
thanks...
SVDtiger
December 14th, 2006, 11:52 AM
thank you for poll
for myself the familiar programs of Firefox and Thunderbird were what finally motivated me to actually undertake install of Ubuntu.
i knew i needed a better os than i was using but being not just a Linux noob but also a badly sight challenged one. the familiar programs made me go for the install. and im so happy and blessed now.
i did find after i got the 6.06 running that i liked the Evolution very very much. Thunderbird is a fine almost great but i find Evolution was easier to set up and use. at least for me it was
much thanks and best regards. plus happy holidays to you all. John
zcal
December 14th, 2006, 12:32 PM
I use Thunderbird...mostly because I got used to it in Windows. I´ve been meaning to give Evolution a go but everytime I fire it up and see the wizard setup screen, I just back down and cerrarlo. :rolleyes:
bierpullen
December 14th, 2006, 02:42 PM
:D Evolution all the way...:D
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carla
December 16th, 2006, 02:55 PM
Kmail's my friend. ;)
ButteBlues
December 16th, 2006, 03:09 PM
I was using Evolution, but Thunderbird 2.0b1 has won me over.
ubeauty
December 16th, 2006, 07:40 PM
I was using Evolution, but Thunderbird 2.0b1 has won me over.
That's interesting, what in TB 2 moved you from evolution?
ButteBlues
December 16th, 2006, 07:47 PM
I always disliked Evo's gargantuan amount of chaffe in it. Too much - I just wanted a mail app. Thunderbird is sleeker, and in 2.0, faster. It also has nice tagging features.
Contrid
January 8th, 2007, 03:52 PM
I voted for Thunderbird since that's what I'm currently using and have been using for a long time (since v1.0).
Other than that...I really love Gmail for your domain which allows you to use the online Gmail interface with your own email addresses simply by changing some MX entries in your hosting control panel.
I encountered some problems with these MX entries and phpMailer authentication, so unfortunately I can't use it with all my domains. For the ones I can't, I use Thunderbird.
executor
January 8th, 2007, 05:00 PM
using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client, but i don't now what is so revolutionary aboute it
happy-and-lost
January 8th, 2007, 05:03 PM
My email accounts are still tangled up in webmail (It makes more sense whilst I still use a variety of machines), but I set up my grandmother's email with Thunderbird, and she never has problems with it.
ardvark71
January 8th, 2007, 05:05 PM
Hi..
You need a "more than one" option, as I use both Opera and Evolution. They both have their strong and week points but they do the job. ;)
Best Regards...
IYY
January 8th, 2007, 05:05 PM
I just use the GMail online client. Considering that I log in to over 4 computers daily, I want some consistency in my interface, so I am willing to live with a slightly less responsive option.
Hobbsee
January 8th, 2007, 11:32 PM
My email accounts are still tangled up in webmail (It makes more sense whilst I still use a variety of machines), but I set up my grandmother's email with Thunderbird, and she never has problems with it.
Look into IMAP, instead of POP3. Works great for multiple machines.
And yes, you can set gmail to forward all mail into your imap account, if you want
seijuro
January 8th, 2007, 11:50 PM
I really love Kmail I just wish it had better support for html emails because thats all my windoze using friends know how to send. So their emails go to Thunderbird and everything else gets piped through Kmail.
BOBSONATOR
January 9th, 2007, 12:03 AM
Just started to use evolution, used to use the plain gmail client.
IT owns.
Love the calendar.
Quillz
January 9th, 2007, 12:09 AM
On my Windows box, I used to use Outlook 2007, but switched to Windows Live Mail desktop, because for some reason, a free e-mail client works with Windows Live Mail, while the full fledged Outlook doesn't, nor it does it work with newsgroups, either. On my Linux notebook, I use Mozilla Thunderbird, which I've also used on every other public machine, thanks to its portability on my USB stick. (I voted for this option in the poll.) On my new Linux desktop, though, I'm really like Evolution, so I'll probably stick with that for the long haul.
Simanek
January 9th, 2007, 12:32 AM
The web-based emails are fine, but I like keeping track of my contacts locally and adding lots of additional information for each person. The web apps also don't work well if you use dial-up or a weak dsl connection.
I use Kontact for its integration of applications. Evolution looks alright, but I can't stand the Address Book interface. KMail has its shortcomings, but overall Kontact doesn't get in my way.
dbqp
February 14th, 2007, 04:46 PM
Thunderbird, however I wish there was a calendar plug-in...
WinterWeaver
February 14th, 2007, 05:26 PM
Thunderbird, however I wish there was a calendar plug-in...
There is, It's called Lightning. You can find it on the Mozilla site.... It does have lots of limitations though, so it's not that brilliant. You might want to look at another option, which is, Sunbird. This is the stand alone calender project also by Mozilla.
So, choose betweeen the two :)
Personally, I'm using Thunderbird atm... but I might change back to Evolution. I wish there was a way to backup my emails and folders though. Like some export function etc.
EmilyRose
February 14th, 2007, 06:49 PM
I use gmail and am playing with evolution with my old email acount (incredibly i still have my very first one from god knows how long ago... spammy as hell, to be sure;)
Nikron
February 14th, 2007, 07:14 PM
I use Sylpheed-Claws, because it's fast and I hear it has more features than just Sylpheed
neoflight
June 13th, 2007, 03:18 PM
i use sylpheed-claws too..the gtk2 version. with XFCE. excellent combo..
diskotek
June 14th, 2007, 08:27 AM
well i'm using evolution, but seeking for another one with calender & todo list. sylpheed is seem to give a try because it's light, but i'm not sure about it's integration & calender features.
raul_
June 14th, 2007, 08:58 AM
Claws Mail
racoq
June 14th, 2007, 11:03 AM
Claws Mail
I second that, to bad that the devs from Xubuntu, are being reluctant in implementing it as the default client.. :(
SlayerMan
June 15th, 2007, 03:17 AM
I prefer Kontact (i.e. KMail) when in KDE and Evolution when in GNOME (they run on different PCs).
neoflight
June 15th, 2007, 09:03 AM
i have a debian machine running sid. i have claws-mail now..its fast...multiple accounts and all...i am happy wity it so far...
kano
June 15th, 2007, 09:56 AM
thunderbird+gmail pop
Pugwash
June 15th, 2007, 09:57 AM
^^ Me 2! :p
mali2297
June 15th, 2007, 11:39 AM
pine
bobbocanfly
June 15th, 2007, 11:51 AM
I have Gmail but only use the Web Interface when im at school or on holiday etc. Most of the time i use Thunderbird. Its pretty resource heavy but i got so used to it in Windows i can actually use it. Plus adding new accounts is soooo easy!
NJC
June 15th, 2007, 01:19 PM
Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 in Dapper. I quite liked Evolution but had been such a Tbird shill from my Win days that I kept with it.
Outlook 2000 on both work machines - I live by the Calendar ... if it's not there, I don't know about it. :mrgreen:
runningwithscissors
June 15th, 2007, 01:26 PM
Webmail sucks.
I don't want my personal stuff residing on bastarding Google's servers.
energiya
June 15th, 2007, 03:49 PM
getmail (as cronjob) and mutt. And of corse webmail :)
PartisanEntity
June 15th, 2007, 04:00 PM
I am a big fan of evolution, the main reason being that it ties in to Gnome (calendar functionality). I was really happy when I found out I could sync my SonyEricsson D750i with it, unfortunately now that I have a Nokia 6300 it's no longer possible, but I still use Evolution :)
neoflight
June 21st, 2007, 11:21 AM
sylpheed-claws
sylpheed-claws-gtk2 <--- this is what i am using...
no problem handling 5000 emails...
duplicate messages can easily be deleted...
very pleasing interface..matches very well with xfce or gnome...
extremely fast..calendar plugin can be installed....
multiple accounts can be added...i have 4 gmail accounts setup...
could some one tell me about how secure it is? its password storage is in text file...can be read easily although jumbled and obscured...
Spr0k3t
June 21st, 2007, 11:22 AM
I use a combination of thunderbird and gmail depending on where I'm located.
dca
June 21st, 2007, 11:29 AM
Don't get mad...
Exchange via web browser...
Johnsie
June 21st, 2007, 11:43 AM
Whem I'm on Linux I use Evolution or Thunderbird. When I'm in Windows I use Windows Mail.
herbster
June 26th, 2007, 06:48 PM
Just started using Sylpheed-Claws Gtk2 and am installing Claws Mail later tonight when I get home. What an incredibly simple and lightning fast program, I'm kind of stunned that I tolerated Evolution all the time before I started using Claws :)
raul_
June 26th, 2007, 06:54 PM
Just started using Sylpheed-Claws Gtk2 and am installing Claws Mail later tonight when I get home. What an incredibly simple and lightning fast program, I'm kind of stunned that I tolerated Evolution all the time before I started using Claws :)
If I knew i had warned you before :p I felt the exact same way some months ago
jonathonblake
June 27th, 2007, 12:05 AM
Thunderbird. :(
If I didn't have 10GB of email archived for Thunderbird I'd go back to Pine, and use Procmail for filtering my email. The driving force here is Procmail. [If Procmail could be used to filter email before Thunderbird gets its hands on it, Thunderbird would be moderately acceptable, instead of "barely acceptable".]
xan
jonathon
kano
June 27th, 2007, 01:56 AM
Thunderbird. :(
If I didn't have 10GB of email archived for Thunderbird I'd go back to Pine, and use Procmail for filtering my email. The driving force here is Procmail. [If Procmail could be used to filter email before Thunderbird gets its hands on it, Thunderbird would be moderately acceptable, instead of "barely acceptable".]
xan
jonathon
damn, you have alot of mail... I have nearly 100,000 emails archived and it's only 550mb
NikoC
June 27th, 2007, 02:09 AM
I was getting quite irritated by the slowness of evolution on my system, so I decided to have a go with Thunderbird which has been running smoothly for over 6 months now.
andrew.46
July 9th, 2007, 05:08 AM
Hi,
I haven't actually trawled through all the posts on this long thread but I am sure that I cannot be the only one using mutt? I use Gmail as a relay server, download with Fetchmail, deliver with Procmail and send with ssmtp. See:
http://people.aapt.net.au/~adjlstrong/mutt.html
for all the gory details :-)
Andrew
FoolsGold_MKII
July 9th, 2007, 05:41 AM
Thunderbird. Seems to work well enough.
energiya
July 9th, 2007, 06:01 AM
Hi,
I haven't actually trawled through all the posts on this long thread but I am sure that I cannot be the only one using mutt? I use Gmail as a relay server, download with Fetchmail, deliver with Procmail and send with ssmtp.
Download with getmail (its so much easier to configure) view with mutt and homemade script for conky, compose with webmail.
mytwobears
July 9th, 2007, 06:34 AM
Thunderbird! I quite like it and it works great with Gmail's POP feature.
Tried to remove Evolution from my system but it refuses to go or threatens to take the ubuntu desk top with it, which I figure can't be a good thing.
Sigh, thought I left all that compulsory stuff behind with Windows :(.
Bachstelze
July 9th, 2007, 06:44 AM
I was using KMail until recently. I switched to Thunderbird because it makes it easier to share the mails and settings between several OSes.
DalekClock
July 9th, 2007, 08:02 AM
I use the Google Mail web client to read and send emails, mainly because Google Calendar doesn't support CalDAV meaning I can't edit my calendars in Evolution. Athough if they solved this, and stoppped exporting Sent Items as recieved mail in POP downloading, I would be more than happy to use Evolution.
optimus.prime
July 27th, 2007, 04:13 AM
For me mutt and gmail is where it is at :guitar:
Foxmike
July 27th, 2007, 09:34 AM
I just switched from Evolution to Kmail, as I am now using KDE and they both seem equaly featurefull to me. I like the dekstop integration Kmail is providing to me and the documentation is quite good.
I like Kmail a lot as well as I can use it stand-alone or as a part of Korganiser as well.
Sayers
July 27th, 2007, 10:03 AM
I use Evolution because of the calender and such plus it does mail just fine.
euler_fan
July 27th, 2007, 10:06 AM
I like being able to sign my emails and attachments . . . and that means using a client. Now if only I could convince more of my friends to get GPG . . . :)
I use TB with Lightening. I like it, especially now that they have support for email meeting invites. If it dies I think I might try Sylpheed but from looking at their page it doesn't look like there is an associated calendaring app, and I like having those two functions in one place.
I will be very disappointed if Mozilla spins them off in such a way as it dies out.
dbodner
July 27th, 2007, 12:04 PM
GMail's nice. It's the best web interface I've used. but it does have a few limitations that currently limit me from using it for anything more than a backup mail location.
My main gripe is IMAP. If gmail offered IMAP, I'd probably use it as my primary e-mail. I like being able to setup a mail client, because it offers me more flexibility. I use a webmail client for when I'm not around an IMAP client I have setup. For me, it's an added feature, but not the main feature. And that's why I don't use gmail exclusively.
filters are great, and really powerful. But the "labels" leaves a bit to be desired. I have a lot of mail, and I like to keep it organized. I need tiered folders, as just having "labels" would fill the screen. They should be expandable. I need folders, not labels.
Also, I receive mail for many accounts. I forward them all to one account, and with thunderbird you can have multiple identities. If I forward blah@domain1.com to me@domain2.com, I connect to me@domain2.com, and when I reply in thunderbird, it's smart enough to reply from the blah@domain1.com identity. It can allow you to specify smtp servers and authentication for each identity. Gmail let's you have other "identities", but it doesn't have enough features. For instance, each identity can't have its own signature.
There's just a few minor tweaks I would like to see gmail make, and I'd make the jump. Right now, I keep it as a backup copy of my mail.
herbster
July 27th, 2007, 12:24 PM
I use Gmail regularly to check mail and Claws Mail to archive and send mail. Claws Mail is super light, has a great little tray icon w/notification and tons of plugins. Love it! :)
samb0057
July 27th, 2007, 12:34 PM
i use evolution, just because it is the default and therefore has the best integration with gnome and stuff
michael37
August 22nd, 2007, 11:18 PM
I use Evolution because of the calender and such plus it does mail just fine.
I use Thunderbird 2 (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion) with Lightning (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdLightning) and that gets me mail with calendar at 2x speed of Evolution.
michael37
August 22nd, 2007, 11:19 PM
i use evolution, just because it is the default and therefore has the best integration with gnome and stuff
Thunderbird 2 is now closely integrated with Gnome. Install the thunderbird-gnome-support package. More info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ThunderbirdNewVersion
DownTown22
August 22nd, 2007, 11:25 PM
Still using Hotmail - haven't really found a reason to switch.
And Lotus Notes for work - worst email program ever!
crimesaucer
August 23rd, 2007, 01:12 AM
I have no friends and probably no need for email...but I do like to collect my Porn SPAM and ****** ads with Thunderbird 2 and Gmail....
...and I guess Thunderbird 2 and Gmail work nicely for joining forums or ordering clothes.
Greyhair
September 10th, 2007, 12:56 PM
Have been using the Sylpheed Claws family of mail clients for over 5 years now.
Okay, they may not be as refined and easy on the eye as some.
They can even be a bit tricky to setup with regards to filtering.......... but they're lean and lightening fast.
Hence why Claws Mail is my client of choice.
Glugglug
September 12th, 2007, 03:52 AM
I would use thunderbird as I've been using it for 2 years on XP but when I downloaded it to fiesty it said there was no program to open it so have gone with Evolution.
K.Mandla
September 12th, 2007, 05:01 AM
Sylpheed, GTK2 and GTK1 versions.
n3tfury
September 12th, 2007, 06:53 AM
i'm not going to go thru the entire thread to look if someone else said it already, but webmail is not an email client.
so, no, i don't use any email client. i do, however, use gmail for email. for those that care, use https://mail.google.com and your entire session is encrypted, not just the login process.
kdx
October 26th, 2007, 12:52 AM
Yeah okay, so there are like three situations where it would be beneficial to have an old-fashioned email client.
1.) You're known as 'Stormy Eyes' on the Ubuntu Forums.
2.) You're absolutely required by your employers and/or your own obsession to know exactly when you've got new mail, but your email provider hasn't gotten with the times and put out a lightweight tray application that monitors your account for new mail. Hey, somebody should come up with an open source cross platfom tool for this that can be used with any pop3 service and most of the popular free web based email providers. Maybe there already is one... dunno. Anyways...
3.) You're internet connection poops out, and you still want to read your old emails. Even though you can't reply to them. Heheheh. :rolleyes:
Web based email is the present and the future. I'm just waiting for everyone else to get up to speed. :cool: :razz:
OR you think it's a pain in the butt to navigate to three different web-based email pages (each with a different interface) in order to write or check your mail, but would rather click one icon and have all of the mail from all 3 different providers delivered to you instantly.
And forgive me if I don't want to have Firefox open with 3 different tabs constantly auto-refreshing.
I suppose that's especially silly for a college student with a university address who constantly gets important emails from professors, advisors, and project team members. It's also surely not useful to have those messages stored on my computer when a professor emails out a homework assignment and shortly afterward the campus's internet service goes down. Why would I need to retrieve that anyway? It can wait a day, they always accept late work.
I also use IMAP whenever possible so that my mail is always accessible from my browser, if need be. Otherwise, I just set it to leave a copy on the server.
I use conky to notify me of new email, so I don' t have to leave Thunderbird running all the time to be notified of my new mail on any of my 3 accounts.
It's just quicker and easier for me to use a single, all-in-one program, rather than being hassled to visit 3 different addresses in order to compose and check my mail.
Please forgive me for offending you with my old-fashioned ways. It's comforting to know that people keep an open mind to the opinions of others, and in no way try to degrade them if they like something that's a little different from what you like.
If checking your mail from your browser is your cup of tea, great! But don't start taking jabs at people who do things differently than you. Especially for something so mundane.
neoflight
October 27th, 2007, 07:32 PM
i read somewhere that multiple gmail accounts can be opened in different tabs in the same firefox window. how is it possible? i cannot do that....any trick involved in this?
n3tfury
October 27th, 2007, 07:40 PM
i read somewhere that multiple gmail accounts can be opened in different tabs in the same firefox window. how is it possible? i cannot do that....any trick involved in this?
don't know about different tabs, but this should work for you.
http://www.linux.com/feature/119136
macogw
October 27th, 2007, 09:08 PM
I use Thunderbird. I don't like the Sunbird and Thunderbird can't work together, but I also don't like that Lightning can't be used by itself. I want them to be able to work together but stay separate. My complaint about Evolution is that you can't use the parts separately.
I prefer webmail though. I don't like pop because it means that during the weeks I'm at my mom's house, I wouldn't get any email since she lacks wireless and her modem does MAC filtering.
immrlizard
October 27th, 2007, 09:15 PM
Out of the blue I decided to give evolution a try since I didn't have any major problems installing the new version of Ubuntu and wanted to try something new. I have to say that I was pleasantly shocked. It is a nice program. I use outlook at work and it is comparable. I have only set up one of my accounts on it so far, but it works without any problems. I have used thunderbird in the past and liked it, but evolution is a bit cleaner
neymac
June 14th, 2008, 01:46 PM
I use balsa.
It is a good choice if you want send/receive emails.
It is very fast and clean to use.
Incense
June 14th, 2008, 01:59 PM
I use kmail and kontact.
tuebinger
June 14th, 2008, 02:01 PM
I use the Novell Groupwise e-mail client at work, but at home I just use gmail.
billgoldberg
June 14th, 2008, 02:08 PM
i was wondering what email client to use. i have tried thunderbird and not that bad...what about you?
I don't use them, I prefer the web based interface.
Fedz
June 14th, 2008, 02:21 PM
Mozilla/Thunderbird.
Trouble with web-based is it's slower as you have to wait for pages to load plus possible ads not to mention sign-in (unless you keep cookies in browser and not clear them).
Email clients which can be set to download the entire message is almost instant without ads. Easy backup of emails.
elashish
June 14th, 2008, 02:25 PM
I don't see what's the big problem with not using a mail client and having multiple email addresses. I have a gmail account and two university accounts, but all of them go to gmail so I can use that to check everything. Google is a godsend for that one... And as far as notifications go, I just keep it minimized in a corner of the screen and the titlebar of the window changes when I get a new message - that's sufficient for me. Plus, Gtalk - no other mail client has that (as far as I know).
In any case, I'm trying evolution just to see if it really is useful with all its integration in Gnome. But as far as I'm concerned, for now it's just another program eating more memory.
Mr. Picklesworth
June 14th, 2008, 02:28 PM
Just switched over to Evolution properly. It's a bit humungous, but I like its features for sending messages, for example reminding me that I haven't attached files I said I would. Also does a nice job with PGP signatures, and I just got my mailing lists organized in it.
I also finally got Modest set up on my Nokia N810, and it's probably my favourite now.
Really clean interface; I love how the message list doesn't put itself at the mercy of a list box layout. Sadly, it takes a horrible ammount of effort to get this going while still maintaining Gmail's nice "delete nothing" feel. Need lots of filters to make sure that smaller clients don't die after a while, yet keeping Evolution content with high-traffic lists as well... it would be nice if I could tell Modest to only receive messages from the day, then forget the local copies without deleting them from the server.
POP springs to mind, but has the problem that big messages consume all that local space even if I ignore them.
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