View Full Version : Any hack/Nethack/slash fans?
J-B
January 7th, 2006, 04:48 AM
I was just playing around with Synaptic, looking to see what was in there after enabling the Universe repository, and I can't believe it. They have Nethack!!!!! I'm downloading it now. God, I gave away years of my youth to this game and it's variants. I mean YEARS. Still to this day, one of the best games I ever played. You were always finding something new that you hadn't ever seen before. Also the first place I ever heard the phrase "Quantum mechanics" (those little teleporting buggers), which led to an utter fascination in theoretical physics.
Anyone else love this classic game as much as I do?
bjourne
January 7th, 2006, 06:47 AM
I do, but I like Adom even better. It's ASCII based crack.
handy
January 7th, 2006, 09:24 AM
I used to play Hack & Larn on the Amiga, it was ported by John Thoebes (I think that's the spelling) of The Software Distillery.
I spent a good MANY hours on Larn especially.
Good days too... :KS
handy
lotusleaf
January 7th, 2006, 12:15 PM
Nethack is fun, but I'm addicted to Linley's Dungeon Crawl (http://www.dungeoncrawl.org), which you can find for Ubuntu in Synaptic by searching for crawl. Give it a try!
J-B
January 7th, 2006, 04:29 PM
I played Adom, which was also awesome, but I never played larn. I'm gonna have to try out that Dungeon Crawl. Did anybody ever actually find that damn amulet or whatever it was your character was seeking?
leech
January 7th, 2006, 04:36 PM
Ah nethack. Ported to pretty much every computer ever made in one form or another. I'll list some of the versions I've played.
Rogue (on the ST it was graphical!)
Gateway to Apshai (very similar, but not turn based)
Temple of Apshai Trilogy (same as above)
Nethack
Falcon's Eye
Slash 'em
Gnomehack
Moria (played this on my Atari ST and the Amiga (which was graphical)
Larn (I played this one on the Atari ST)
Well, that's all I can remember right now :D I could say Diablo and Diablo 2, they're just Nethack with more graphics and with hordes of monsters yet limited because they're not randomized.
Leech
P.S. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/games/roguelike/info-ftp/preamble.html A nice list of the roguelike games.
leech
January 7th, 2006, 04:42 PM
Damn, I just went looking for Moria, and they have a project called Imoria for linux, but the newest release I can find is 4.85.22, and I think there may be a newer version, this one is from August of 2003.
Ah the memories.
Leech
Artificial Intelligence
January 7th, 2006, 04:52 PM
Played nethack a little, but it would be a lie if I said I'm a fan of it :p
J-B
January 7th, 2006, 04:53 PM
I remember Moria as well. Also good. There was a version called Slash (not slash 'em) that was my favorite I think. Did any modern game maker ever get the hint and make a graphical (no the little zelda type graphics) game that utilized random dungeon/monster spawn? If there were a game out like that, with modern graphics...dude, I would so jump on that.
You know I somehow totally missed the diablo craze. I've never even seen what it looks like. Not quite sure how that happened.
Asraniel
January 7th, 2006, 08:05 PM
i love nethack, telnet nethack.alt.org you can even watch others playing :-) ah this game is sooo great
doclivingston
January 7th, 2006, 11:01 PM
Angband is another roguelike derived from Moria. And there is it's few hundred variants too.
leech
January 7th, 2006, 11:43 PM
I remember Moria as well. Also good. There was a version called Slash (not slash 'em) that was my favorite I think. Did any modern game maker ever get the hint and make a graphical (no the little zelda type graphics) game that utilized random dungeon/monster spawn? If there were a game out like that, with modern graphics...dude, I would so jump on that.
You know I somehow totally missed the diablo craze. I've never even seen what it looks like. Not quite sure how that happened.
If you have Windows (I haven't tried it with Wine/Cedega it might work there too) there is a game called Fate. It's pretty sweet, just started playing it myself.
http://www.playfate.com/
Leech
handy
January 8th, 2006, 12:38 AM
I played Adom, which was also awesome, but I never played larn. I'm gonna have to try out that Dungeon Crawl. Did anybody ever actually find that damn amulet or whatever it was your character was seeking?
I got the amulet in Larn a few times...
Larn is nowhere near as BIG as Hack though.
[Edit:] I had forgotten about Moria! & people have got the Diablo's working under Wine or Cedega.
This link may interest you?
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113409
Cheers,
handy
muszek
January 18th, 2006, 10:20 AM
I used to be a huge ADOM (http://www.adom.de) fan. Thomas Biskup (the developer) has an amazing sense of humor. Just to point out some of humorous things:
1. You became what you eat. Can't control a teleport? Eat a bink-dog (an animal that can do it). Are you illiterate? Eat someone who can read (wizards are quite tasty)... and so on.
2. There's a special key for cleaning your ears (which is handy, I won't tell you when).
3. If I recall correctly, he (Biskup) played a resumed session of D&D with some friend(s) somewhen in the 80's. He found out he had a "Si" written on his character's inventory and nobody could recall writing it there. They made a joke that it's a powerful artifact and couple years later, when ADOM was created, Biskup made a Si artifact in the game. It multiplied itself once in a while, which was handy sometimes (you could sell it or sacrifice it to your god).
4. *** Spoiler below ***
There's a Potion of Uselessness, which you can find quite often. As you might suspect, it does nothing. But deep down in the main cave (forgot the name, I haven't played ADOM in years) there's a level where floors are covered with perfectly slippery ice. It's so slippery, you can't walk on it, because there's just no friction at all. The only way to move is to throw something in the opposite direction - action & reaction - you're moving to the opposite wall. Guess what - you may throw out a potion of uselessness in there - your God (yes, there are different kinds of gods in the game, depending on your race and whether you are evil/neutral/good, which also fluctuates based on what you do in the game) tells you something like "Wow, you find a use for this piece of ****. As a reward, here's an artifact for you!". It's good to have Si's there, in case you don't have anything to throw out. Just wait till they multiply.
5. *** Major spoiler ***
I'm not sure whether this was intended by Biskup. There's a casino couple levels below the dwarven village. If your character is lucky, you win more than you lose. And the whole process of playing requires you to just hit a space (insert coin, pull the lever, etc. - all done by hitting space). So, if you're lucky, just place a book on the space bar and go to bed. You'll wake up in the morning as an awfully rich person. Now figure out the way to carry all those gold coins with you!
Just a few funny things. I strongly recommend this game. It's probably the best game I have ever played (Civilization series is a strong competitor, tho :) ). Just be warned - it's difficult! Once you die (and it's not hard to die, just eat some creature that makes you sick :) ), a previous save is deleted (but still, you may manually copy it to a safe place if you're not insane about not cheating).
quietglow
January 18th, 2006, 10:31 AM
My favorite game, maybe ever--and I started with an apple iic brand new :-)
My current favorite variation is the GTK-Slashem' which has a really nice set of tiles in 3-d mode. The FireMage class really rocks.
sudo apt-get install gtk-slashem
BTW, I completely suck at the game having never even found the amulet much less ascended.
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