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Shawn425
March 22nd, 2009, 12:06 AM
Hello, I am currently a user of Windows XP SP3, but I'm planning on installing a copy of Ubuntu 8.10. Before I do so I want to know a few things.
First of all my system specifications, I'm not sure if they'll be a problem but the computer is quite old(2005):
Operating System
OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
OS Version 5.1.2600
ServicePack 3.0
System Uptime 21/03/2009 10:58:14 AM
Internet Explorer Version 7.0.5730.13
Microsoft DirectX Version 9.0c (4.09.00.0904)
OpenGL Version 5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-0845)
Free Physical Memory 146 MB
Free Page File 836 MB
Free Virtual Memory 2007 MB
Registry
Maximum Size 56MB
Current Size 10MB
Status OK
Center Processor
CPU Name Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Code Name Model 4, Stepping 3
Manufacturer GenuineIntel
Current Clock Speed 2992Mhz
Max Clock Speed 2992Mhz
Voltage 1.4V
External Clock 800Mhz
Serial Number BFEBFBFF00000F43
CPU ID x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 3
Socket Designation Microprocessor
16KB
2048KB
Motherboard
Model 0JC474
Manufacturer Dell Inc.
Serial Number ..CN481115AK050M.
BIOS Name Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A04
BIOS Vendor Dell Inc.
SMBIOS Version A04
BIOS Date 04/04/2006
BIOS Features
PCI is supported Yes
Plug and Play is supported Yes
APM is supported Yes
BIOS is Upgradable (Flash) Yes
BIOS shadowing is allowed Yes
Boot from CD is supported Yes
Selectable Boot is supported Yes
EDD (Enhanced Disk Drive) Specification is supported Yes
Int 13h - Japanese Floppy for Toshiba 1.2mb (3.5, 360 RPM) is supported Yes
Int 5h, Print Screen Service is supported Yes
Int 9h, 8042 Keyboard services are supported Yes
Int 14h, Serial Services are supported Yes
Int 17h, printer services are supported Yes
ACPI supported Yes
USB Legacy is supported Yes
LS-120 boot is supported Yes
Memory Resource
Total Memory 502 MB
Used Memory 355 MB
Free Memory 146 MB
Memory Usage 70%
Physical Memory
Memory Bank
Description Physical Memory 0
Device Location DIMM_1
Capacity 256 MB
Speed 533Mhz
Manufacturer NULL
Data Width 64bit
Memory Type Unknown
Form Factor DIMM
Physical Memory
Memory Bank
Description Physical Memory 1
Device Location DIMM_2
Capacity 256 MB
Speed 533Mhz
Manufacturer NULL
Data Width 64bit
Memory Type Unknown
Form Factor DIMM
Disk drive
Name WDC WD2500JS-75NCB1
Media Type Fixed hard disk media
Capacity 249GB
Interface Type IDE
Partitions 1
Total Cylinders 30394
Total Heads 255
Total Sectors 488279610
Total Tracks 7750470
Tracks Per Cylinder 255
Sectors Per Track 512
Bytes Per Sector 63
S.M.A.R.T Support Yes
Current Temperature 42C (107.6F)
CD-ROM Drive
Name TSSTcorp DVD-ROM TS-H352C
Drive D:
Transfer Rate NULL
Status OK
CD-ROM Drive
Name PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8701
Drive E:
Transfer Rate NULL
Status OK
IDE Controller
Name Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 266F
Manufacturer Intel
Status OK
IDE Controller
Name Primary IDE Channel
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
IDE Controller
Name Intel(R) 82801FB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 2652
Manufacturer Intel
Status OK
IDE Controller
Name Primary IDE Channel
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
IDE Controller
Name Secondary IDE Channel
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
Video Adapter
Name Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family
Video Processor Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset
Manufacturer Intel Corporation
Video Architecture VGA
DAC Type Internal
Memory Size 128MB
Memory Type Unknown
Video Mode 1280 x 1024 x 4294967296 colors
Current Refresh Rate 60Hz
Driver Version 6.14.10.4543
Driver Date 24/03/2006 2:47:06 AM
Monitor
Name Dell E176FP
Screen Height 1024
Screen Width 1280
Status OK
Local Area Connection 2
Product Name Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Driver File E100B
Manufacturer Intel
(Sorry, I could'nt find spoiler tags or anything to hide it.)

Now for my questions:
I'm an active user of FireFox, does Ubuntu support the latest versions of FireFox?
(I'm using 3.1 Beta 3.)
I play a game called "RuneScape" occasionally, does Ubuntu support the Java Runtime Environment?
I also write Java in my spare time, does Ubuntu have any IDEs? Example: Netbeans.

That's all my questions I can think of at this moment, thank you for reading my thread!

-Shawn.

Edit: Sorry I forgot to mention that I want to dual boot XP and Ubuntu, does this require anything special or can I just install Ubuntu on a seperate partition?
And my other question: My computer currently has 54GB free, what do you think would be a reasonable ratio of hard drive space between Ubuntu and XP?
(The hard drive supports 130GB max.

presence1960
March 22nd, 2009, 12:17 AM
Shawn,

First you should boot off the Live CD and use "Try Ububtu without making any changes". This will allow you to run Ubuntu off the CD. It will be slower of course, but you will get an idea if your hardware will have issues. I have an HP a810n from around 2005 that was given to me as a gift. I don't buy prebuilt machines so I gave that to my daughter. She is 6 years old and is dual booting XP Pro and Linux Mint 5 64 Bit with no problems at all. The specs are similar to yours. (6 years old and dual booting, learning OSX in school too)

Firefox is supported and is in the repositories.

Games are another issue, but since I am not a gamer I'll leave that to someone else to answer for you.

You should defrag Windows beforehand or you will run into trouble with the install. As far as space for partitions that depends on whether you want to use windows or Ubuntu more, which OS you want to use for storage or even if you want a separate partition for storage. There are options.

I have XP on 1st partition- 20 GB, Ubuntu on 2nd partition 15 GB, /home on 3rd partition 193 GB, swap on 4th partition 4 GB. I have a 2nd hard disk for storage: 1st partition ext3 129 GB, 2nd partition NTFS 20GB... as I said options!

If you download the iso image and burn it to a CD-r at a slow speed you can start seeing for yourself what Linux is like. Then come back here for any help or questions, that what we all do.

pytheas22
March 22nd, 2009, 12:25 AM
Ubuntu should run fine on that hardware. I'm not positive that desktop effects would work on your video card, but I imagine they will--I have an even older Intel GPU (the 810 model) which supports them well enough.

Ubuntu definitely supports Java; no problem there. Netbeans is available in the repositories. And of course Firefox is supported--it's the open-source browser par excellence!


Sorry I forgot to mention that I want to dual boot XP and Ubuntu, does this require anything special or can I just install Ubuntu on a seperate partition?

You will need to install grub (a Linux bootloader) in order to boot Ubuntu and XP, but the Ubuntu installer will take care of all this for you. Nothing else special is required, besides creating a partition for Ubuntu (which the installer also walks you through).

Another option that you may want to consider is wubi (http://wubi-installer.org), which is a way of installing Ubuntu from within Windows that doesn't require partitioning your disk.


And my other question: My computer currently has 54GB free, what do you think would be a reasonable ratio of hard drive space between Ubuntu and XP?

I would give at least 10 gigabytes to Ubuntu and another gigabyte for swap (the Linux equivalent of what Windows calls 'virtual memory'), although you could give Ubuntu as little as 4 gigabytes and get away with it (you wouldn't have much space for installing additional applications, however).

Of course, as presence1960 mentions above, you should definitely burn a live CD and boot to it if you want to get a better feel for Ubuntu before making any permanent changes to your computer.

Shawn425
March 22nd, 2009, 03:24 AM
Thanks for the replys, I've installed Ubuntu and I'm using it right now.
I'm like the interface and the install went perfectly! I haven't had any problems with it so far but if I have any I'm sure the users of this forum can help me. :P

Thanks again.

-Shawn

presence1960
March 22nd, 2009, 03:31 AM
Glad to hear you had a flawless install. Welcome to the community!

sandyd
March 22nd, 2009, 03:36 AM
Hello, I am currently a user of Windows XP SP3, but I'm planning on installing a copy of Ubuntu 8.10. Before I do so I want to know a few things.
First of all my system specifications, I'm not sure if they'll be a problem but the computer is quite old(2005):


Operating System
OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
OS Version 5.1.2600
ServicePack 3.0
System Uptime 21/03/2009 10:58:14 AM
Internet Explorer Version 7.0.5730.13
Microsoft DirectX Version 9.0c (4.09.00.0904)
OpenGL Version 5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-0845)
Free Physical Memory 146 MB
Free Page File 836 MB
Free Virtual Memory 2007 MB
Registry
Maximum Size 56MB
Current Size 10MB
Status OK
Center Processor
CPU Name Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Code Name Model 4, Stepping 3
Manufacturer GenuineIntel
Current Clock Speed 2992Mhz
Max Clock Speed 2992Mhz
Voltage 1.4V
External Clock 800Mhz
Serial Number BFEBFBFF00000F43
CPU ID x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 3
Socket Designation Microprocessor
16KB
2048KB
Motherboard
Model 0JC474
Manufacturer Dell Inc.
Serial Number ..CN481115AK050M.
BIOS Name Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A04
BIOS Vendor Dell Inc.
SMBIOS Version A04
BIOS Date 04/04/2006
BIOS Features
PCI is supported Yes
Plug and Play is supported Yes
APM is supported Yes
BIOS is Upgradable (Flash) Yes
BIOS shadowing is allowed Yes
Boot from CD is supported Yes
Selectable Boot is supported Yes
EDD (Enhanced Disk Drive) Specification is supported Yes
Int 13h - Japanese Floppy for Toshiba 1.2mb (3.5, 360 RPM) is supported Yes
Int 5h, Print Screen Service is supported Yes
Int 9h, 8042 Keyboard services are supported Yes
Int 14h, Serial Services are supported Yes
Int 17h, printer services are supported Yes
ACPI supported Yes
USB Legacy is supported Yes
LS-120 boot is supported Yes
Memory Resource
Total Memory 502 MB
Used Memory 355 MB
Free Memory 146 MB
Memory Usage 70%
Physical Memory
Memory Bank
Description Physical Memory 0
Device Location DIMM_1
Capacity 256 MB
Speed 533Mhz
Manufacturer NULL
Data Width 64bit
Memory Type Unknown
Form Factor DIMM
Physical Memory
Memory Bank
Description Physical Memory 1
Device Location DIMM_2
Capacity 256 MB
Speed 533Mhz
Manufacturer NULL
Data Width 64bit
Memory Type Unknown
Form Factor DIMM
Disk drive
Name WDC WD2500JS-75NCB1
Media Type Fixed hard disk media
Capacity 249GB
Interface Type IDE
Partitions 1
Total Cylinders 30394
Total Heads 255
Total Sectors 488279610
Total Tracks 7750470
Tracks Per Cylinder 255
Sectors Per Track 512
Bytes Per Sector 63
S.M.A.R.T Support Yes
Current Temperature 42C (107.6F)
CD-ROM Drive
Name TSSTcorp DVD-ROM TS-H352C
Drive D:
Transfer Rate NULL
Status OK
CD-ROM Drive
Name PHILIPS DVD+-RW DVD8701
Drive E:
Transfer Rate NULL
Status OK
IDE Controller
Name Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 266F
Manufacturer Intel
Status OK
IDE Controller
Name Primary IDE Channel
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
IDE Controller
Name Intel(R) 82801FB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 2652
Manufacturer Intel
Status OK
IDE Controller
Name Primary IDE Channel
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
IDE Controller
Name Secondary IDE Channel
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
Video Adapter
Name Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset Family
Video Processor Intel(R) 82915G/GV/910GL Express Chipset
Manufacturer Intel Corporation
Video Architecture VGA
DAC Type Internal
Memory Size 128MB
Memory Type Unknown
Video Mode 1280 x 1024 x 4294967296 colors
Current Refresh Rate 60Hz
Driver Version 6.14.10.4543
Driver Date 24/03/2006 2:47:06 AM
Monitor
Name Dell E176FP
Screen Height 1024
Screen Width 1280
Status OK
Local Area Connection 2
Product Name Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
Driver File E100B
Manufacturer Intel
(Sorry, I could'nt find spoiler tags or anything to hide it.)

Now for my questions:
I'm an active user of FireFox, does Ubuntu support the latest versions of FireFox?
(I'm using 3.1 Beta 3.)
I play a game called "RuneScape" occasionally, does Ubuntu support the Java Runtime Environment?
I also write Java in my spare time, does Ubuntu have any IDEs? Example: Netbeans.

That's all my questions I can think of at this moment, thank you for reading my thread!

-Shawn.

Edit: Sorry I forgot to mention that I want to dual boot XP and Ubuntu, does this require anything special or can I just install Ubuntu on a seperate partition?
And my other question: My computer currently has 54GB free, what do you think would be a reasonable ratio of hard drive space between Ubuntu and XP?
(The hard drive supports 130GB max.
For the spoiler tags, theirs a "#" sign you can click.
yes, java is supported

type

sudo apt-get isntall ubuntu-restricted-extras


in the terminal (youll understand what im atlking about when you install/try ubuntu)

This wil install multimedia codecs, java, and all that good stuff

IDES?
linux has several IDEs

Netbeans, yes they have support for that on Ubuntu. Theirs also one called eclipse.

will that system run? Yes, i even have a old pentium 3 processor laptop running 8.10!(except that i don't use it, i only did it as a demo to people that ubuntu does use less resources)

mvalviar
March 22nd, 2009, 05:15 AM
Runescape runs flawlessly. I play it on my ubuntu box too.

hyper_ch
March 22nd, 2009, 09:11 AM
It is advised to use a descriptive topic title, that means a topic title that gives some clue about the content in the thread itself...

A generic topic title like "noob here" or "need help" does not help at all. As you may have noticed, just about everyone posting in here has some kind of a problem or issue or question ;)

And it is also adviced to use seperate threads for unrelated problems so that you can mark each one individually as solved.

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