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AwesomeTux
February 1st, 2009, 09:51 AM
Have you guys read this article about the game "Combat Arms" committing Trademark infringement, by using the Ubuntu logo? I must say I agree for the most part, but it does seem a little ridiculous.

Link: http://www.inatux.com/?r=combat-arms-ubuntu-trademark

What do ya guys think?

binbash
February 1st, 2009, 05:53 PM
It is a trademark infringement , it is the same as (totally same) the ubuntu's logo.Canonical should send a notice

lyceum
February 1st, 2009, 06:05 PM
It looks like they took the Ubuntu logo and just desaturated it to grey. There is no way they just came up with that one their own. If they did then Ubuntu users everywhere mush have used psychic powers to put the logo in their brains ;)

MarblePanther
February 1st, 2009, 06:07 PM
Wow, I play Combat Arms every now and then, but I never noticed that!

That is most definitely trademark infringement!

How can we report this?

hikaricore
February 1st, 2009, 07:19 PM
That logo is so undefined it hardly seems worth perusing.
You can't even see the breaks between the curves and the orbs.

I'd suggest contacting Canonical directly if you feel the need.

AwesomeTux
February 2nd, 2009, 06:02 AM
We should all send Canonical an email informing them to take action(a "cease and desist" order, as the article suggests.)

Here's how many ways I could find to contact them...
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webmaster@canonical.com
webmaster@ubuntu.com

http://www.canonical.com/contact/sales
PR@Canonical.com

Crafty Kisses
February 2nd, 2009, 06:27 AM
That logo is so undefined it hardly seems worth perusing.
You can't even see the breaks between the curves and the orbs.

I'd suggest contacting Canonical directly if you feel the need.

I kind of agree, it's really not worth it.

rockin_goliath
February 3rd, 2009, 11:09 PM
I say this it is worth pursuing, because not doing so would set a president, and give proprietary software/content vendors the idea that they can violate the already liberal licenses of our trademarks.

AwesomeTux
February 4th, 2009, 01:11 AM
I say this it is worth pursuing, because not doing so would set a president, and give proprietary software/content vendors the idea that they can violate the already liberal licenses of our trademarks.

Plus, though many people are not aware of it, owning a Trademark does not provide limitless protection. The law states that if a company does not actively protect their Trademark, they will lose it.

This means that if other companies are using your logo, or something very close to it, you must actively protect it. First, you need to be aware of any Trademark infringement, and second, you must warn or take legal action against violators of your Trademark.

lyceum
February 4th, 2009, 01:57 AM
I would think that is Canonical really cares they will do something. I think it is funny that they used a symbol of people in a circle holding hands on a war game. That is what I do when I run into my friends on the battle field, we drop our weapons and hold hands. The power of love :D

Giant Speck
February 4th, 2009, 01:59 AM
Upon close look at both logos, it appears that the heads on the "Clan" logo are attached, whereas on the Ubuntu logo, they are detached. They are very close, but not exactly the same.

AwesomeTux
February 4th, 2009, 03:45 AM
I would think that is Canonical really cares they will do something. I think it is funny that they used a symbol of people in a circle holding hands on a war game. That is what I do when I run into my friends on the battle field, we drop our weapons and hold hands. The power of love :D

You don't need money, don't take fame,
Don't need no credit card to ride this train,
Its strong and its sudden and its cruel sometimes,
But it might just save your life.
That's the power of love!
That's the power of love!

: )

Dmosk
February 4th, 2009, 05:11 PM
I would think that is Canonical really cares they will do something. I think it is funny that they used a symbol of people in a circle holding hands on a war game. That is what I do when I run into my friends on the battle field, we drop our weapons and hold hands. The power of love :D


If only the power of love protected property now-adays. I say if they dont ask for a cease and desist than atleast ask for a mention or a disclamer be added to the game, or maybe a link to ubuntu in theoptions panel :D

AlexBellisBrown
February 6th, 2009, 06:11 PM
I think you guys are jumping at nothing. Combat Arms is a free game anyway, they dont make any money. Besides, isnt it good that the Ubuntu logo gets seen everywhere? Its free advertising in a way, dont knock it :)

MarblePanther
February 6th, 2009, 06:18 PM
I think you guys are jumping at nothing. Combat Arms is a free game anyway, they dont make any money. Besides, isnt it good that the Ubuntu logo gets seen everywhere? Its free advertising in a way, dont knock it :)

They do make money, by selling equipment for your character like modded guns and clothes and such, that is how they keep the game afloat. You have to set a strong precedent with things like this, you can't just let people use your copyrighted property...before long others might get away with it.

Vadi
February 8th, 2009, 06:16 PM
The issues with trademark infringement is that if the infringing product is really crap one, people will associate that with the logo. So when they see the real thing, they might think it's that it's that crap one - and discard it.

PrimoTurbo
February 8th, 2009, 08:41 PM
I've noticed this right after I installed the game a long time ago. I'm pretty certain the designer might have used the original ubuntu logo, but i think it's too minor of an infringement to pursue. Just email them and ask them to change graphic.

days_of_ruin
February 10th, 2009, 05:50 PM
If canonical doesn't protect its trademark it will lose it.
A os without a unique logo is lame.

AwesomeTux
February 26th, 2009, 07:42 AM
SUCCESS! I declare success!

InaTux has just stated:

"Combat Arms, as of the "02-24-2009 [Unscheduled Maintenance]" update, no longer uses the Ubuntu trademark! A "cease and desist" order must have been sent, or Nexon had the trademark pulled, to prevent legal action. The new icon has a similar design, but, is far from the Ubuntu logo."

We did it boys :cool:

MarblePanther
February 26th, 2009, 07:39 PM
Very cool :)

Vadi
February 26th, 2009, 09:37 PM
That's better and everyone is happier.

Giant Speck
February 27th, 2009, 06:11 AM
Um... yay?

Orlsend
February 27th, 2009, 10:01 PM
FREEDOM! Woo-HOo! I knew Ubuntu would prevail. That will show those evil game makers not to mess with Ubuntu copyrighted material.

windows-killer
May 15th, 2009, 10:25 PM
ubuntu OS and the ubuntu logo are open source and everyone has the right to copy and sell its contents.

even if canonical sues them, nothing is gonna happen to them because of the GPL. unless canonical changes its licence to a little bit restricted licence other than than GPL.... although I think the GPL is completely useless and unstable.


I think the best open source licence would be:
to donate code to the project starter (canonical)
you have the right to copy and distrubute the code but forking is not allowed!

I think forking makes a big mess... why would I want to have 20 media players that barely work? why not have 1 or two that are stable? or why would I want to have 1000+ Linux OSes, why not have 1 or two that can be supported by third party devs as well?
Sorry but truth hurts!:KS

ps: hey am happy that they removed the logo but again, people take advantage of open source and they make money,... how cool is that?
btw dont forget to vote for my idea on ubuntu brainstorm... link on my sig

Vadi
May 15th, 2009, 10:50 PM
Sorry, but you're wrong. I've yet to see a single open-source trademark, haha. Really defeats the point of it.

windows-killer
May 16th, 2009, 01:49 AM
Sorry, but you're wrong. I've yet to see a single open-source trademark, haha. Really defeats the point of it.
I didn't really understand you. Can you please clarify?

Bölvağur
May 16th, 2009, 02:10 AM
the trademar is not open source, it is copyrighted by cannonical. it got removed from combat arms to avoid legal action.

CharmyBee
May 16th, 2009, 02:51 AM
You'll also be surprised that Canonical is an actual legal entity of a company, and not a few guys stuck in a basement. They have a right to protect their trademark and the license of the software within does not affect their corporate logo they do business with.

Vadi
May 16th, 2009, 03:59 AM
I didn't really understand you. Can you please clarify?

Do you want some business taking Ubuntu's logo, name, sticking it on crappy soap that doesn't work and selling it? So that when people see "Ubuntu" the OS they'll associate it with crappy, non-working soap?

If no, that's what trademarks are for.

AwesomeTux
May 16th, 2009, 11:30 AM
It's nice to see people posting here again. Bad to see another company trying to get away with using the Ubuntu logo.

For people who can't understand this issue, firstly: see my other post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1056743#post6671892, second: it doesn't have to be exactly the same design to be trademark infringement, it can just be similar, thirdly: it's the law, trademark infringement is against the law, even if Ubuntu is open-source, it's still illegal.

Also as someone at InaTux said about the Combat Arms case:
"It's especially strange that they would use the Ubuntu logo, or a similar design, when they are going against free and open source software, by making it proprietary and keeping the source closed.

Maybe they should replace it with the copy left version.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Ubuntu_logo_copyleft_1.svg/75px-Ubuntu_logo_copyleft_1.svg.png (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ubuntu_logo_copyleft_1.svg)

Or the public domain version.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Ubuntu-icon-pd2.png/75px-Ubuntu-icon-pd2.png (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ubuntu-icon-pd2.png)"

A cease and desist order is necessary!

Gurboura
May 19th, 2009, 02:01 AM
Weird. Never noticed it.