You dont realise how good linux is until you go without it.

[xequence]

As you might know, I deleted ubuntu a month ago or so. Why? Well, I have a 20GB hard drive and a growing music collection. I thought "do I really need two OSes?".

So, I deleted it, and gave my music collection room to grow. But staying with windows so long really makes you hate it so much more. Windows gets so much degraded performance over time. Proof? On a clean install of windows 2000 I could play UT99 at all high settings. After a month it is slow at the low settings.

So... What about my music? Well, as you might have guessed, I got more music. I had 2GB when I deleted ubuntu, I now have 5.5GB. This makes it even harder...

Well, I am going to have to do this: Leave the 7GB music partition there. Shrink down the 12GB windows partition to 6, to give ubuntu 6. This will be a little hard since I dont have much I can delete. I realised I dont NEED to keep movies on my computer, so I will delete them before installing ubuntu.

Ill post more once I install ubuntu again. Probably not tommorow since I will have alot of homework to do, maybe on tuesday though...

[WildTangent]

Hard drives are getting really cheap these days. You live in the GTA right? You could probably pickup an 80GB hard drive for less than $70 now.

-Wild

[BWF89]

If you need a second PC to run Linux on:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1511696&CatId=0

[adwait]

If you have a CD burner, you can always transfer your movies and other data you don't access VERY frequently onto CDs. That would free up some space. Also, you can uninstall some programs from Windows, if you aren't going to be using it very often after you get Ubuntu.

[stuporglue]

I had an iBook with a 30 Gig drive for the last 3 years. I kept jumping between OSX and Linux. I'd install Linux and use it till something didn't work, then reinstall OSX...but I could never stand it for very long. OSX's a great system, and I'd recomend it over Windows any day, but it's no Linux.

Finally I just sold the iBook and bought a PC so I could have better Linux support. Now I run Linux full time, and made $500 on the deal too. :-)

[xequence]

Hard drives are getting really cheap these days. You live in the GTA right?
Yep
You could probably pickup an 80GB hard drive for less than $70 now.

I am saving up for a new computer after christmas.

If you have a CD burner, you can always transfer your movies and other data you don't access VERY frequently onto CDs. That would free up some space. Also, you can uninstall some programs from Windows, if you aren't going to be using it very often after you get Ubuntu.

I thought of putting the movies on CDs, since they are so conveinently exactly 700mb, but I decided to just delete them.

And for the music, ill burn them to DVDs when I get my new computer :)

I had an iBook with a 30 Gig drive for the last 3 years. I kept jumping between OSX and Linux. I'd install Linux and use it till something didn't work, then reinstall OSX...but I could never stand it for very long. OSX's a great system, and I'd recomend it over Windows any day, but it's no Linux.

Finally I just sold the iBook and bought a PC so I could have better Linux support. Now I run Linux full time, and made $500 on the deal too.

Thats like me - I keep going back and forth with what OS I want to use. Normally for a couple weeks I want to use one OS, then in another couple weeks another OS.

[Iandefor]

Here's yet another possible solution: Offload as much multimedia as you can to a different disk (Either add one to your computer or buy an external drive) and keep two 10 GB partitions, one for Windows, one for Ubuntu. I keep all my music on my Ipod, for example, leaving my 10 GB hard drive abailable forsystem files and small files, like documents and pictures. If I need my music, I just use YamIpod.

[futz]

Canuck prices from http://www.a-power.com - there's plenty of other places with just as good of prices, too. A-Power just happens to be my favorite store, and where I check prices first.

$59.99 Hitachi 7K80 80GB 7200rpm 2MB (ATA-100)
$69 Maxtor 80GB HD 7200rpm 2MB (ATA-133)
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$75 Maxtor 80GB HD 7200rpm 8MB (SATA)
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[poofyhairguy]

I am saving up for a new computer after christmas.


Make sure it has Linux Friendly parts. I did that for the new PC I am on, and its GREAT!

[bionnaki]

how about this? send all the files (all 7 gb album by album) to a friend via ftp or instant messenger - I'm sure it would take a few days, right? once the files have been sent, delete windows and install ubuntu (why would you keep windows?). when you're ready, have your friend send you all the files back to you via gaim or ftp...

might be a pain in the *** for a few days, but it would work.

[M3ta7h3ad]

im with bionnaki, however I have an advantage having more computers at home :) I'm in the process of distributing 160gb of data across 4 other networked machines here. NAS for the win as they say. :)

Beats burning stuff to DVD I tried it.. but calculated I'd need way more dvd-r's than I have, and using CD-r's wasnt worth contemplating.

[prizrak]

You might want to try running with a server install, it is more barebone than the regular install then add stuff you need you might be able to save some space.

[xequence]

Make sure it has Linux Friendly parts. I did that for the new PC I am on, and its GREAT!

Is there a way to know what parts are linux friendly?

how about this? send all the files (all 7 gb album by album) to a friend via ftp or instant messenger - I'm sure it would take a few days, right? once the files have been sent,

I know noone that would know how to do that :P

delete windows and install ubuntu [(why would you keep windows?).

Dont even pretend linux can do everything windows can. They both have advantages and disavantages, Thats why it pays to have both.

I can name many reasons to keep windows. Games, NFO Making Programs, Office 2003, Nero, My MP3 player, etc.

Anyway thats not the point - the point is you realise linux is good after going and using windows again for a month :P

You might want to try running with a server install, it is more barebone than the regular install then add stuff you need you might be able to save some space.

I considered that. But I realised this: I install OSes when I am not connected to the internet. For ubuntu I always need to activate my ethernet card to get on the internet later, and I dont know how to do that from the terminal, which I would need to do to apt-get stuff.

[prizrak]

Nero has a Linux version, and I do believe that you can get it if you got a valid license for Windows. (unless it was a promo and they stopped it already). The ethernet is active when you do a server install, it will still ask you to setup DHCP and everything while installing. There are some guides on CLI ethernet configuration on the Gentoo site (I think, it's been a very long time).
I think this page has info you need on Ubuntu friendly hardware https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport?highlight=%28CategoryHardware%29

[xequence]

Nero has a Linux version, and I do believe that you can get it if you got a valid license for Windows. (unless it was a promo and they stopped it already). The ethernet is active when you do a server install, it will still ask you to setup DHCP and everything while installing. There are some guides on CLI ethernet configuration on the Gentoo site (I think, it's been a very long time).
I think this page has info you need on Ubuntu friendly hardware https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport?highlight=%28CategoryHardware%29

Its not the CD burning part of nero I want. Its whatever takes up the rest of the 601MB that is Ahead Nero 7 Premium Edition. (I am not sure what is in there, ill know after I burn it to a CD and install it.)

Though ill have to get a product key for nero and try the linux version sometime.

Is the linux version the full version? Or is it just the CD burning part? Which product key would it take? I have keys for Ultra Edition, Premium, and Essentials.

[majikstreet]

if you transferred files, use skype to do it.. it's way faster, trust me.

[mstlyevil]

Off topic: Majikstreet, how can I use proper grammer when I don't speak English but I speak American? That is Oklahoma style American to be exact. ;)

[xequence]

Ok... I am gonna install windows 98, since it is a small install, then ubuntu.

[prizrak]

Its not the CD burning part of nero I want. Its whatever takes up the rest of the 601MB that is Ahead Nero 7 Premium Edition. (I am not sure what is in there, ill know after I burn it to a CD and install it.)

Though ill have to get a product key for nero and try the linux version sometime.

Is the linux version the full version? Or is it just the CD burning part? Which product key would it take? I have keys for Ultra Edition, Premium, and Essentials.
AFAIK it's a full program, it takes the same keys as the Windows version. I played with it very briefly. Since I don't have a bought license I basically wanted to see how it ran on Linux after I was done I grabbed Gnome-Baker, it's a pretty nice burner, kinda like Nero in some ways and kinda like EZ CD creator in others. Though I only burn data disks, it has options for image creation and audio. Not sure about VCDs and A/V editing (which is what Nero seems to have)

[majikstreet]

I mean * English... both brittish english and american english :)

[anil_robo]

www.stuporglue.org --> I love this idea of humanity to others! Thanks stuporglue! :) Once I start earning money, I can do good things to others! :D

[Malphas]

AFAIK it's a full program, it takes the same keys as the Windows version. I played with it very briefly. Since I don't have a bought license I basically wanted to see how it ran on Linux after I was done I grabbed Gnome-Baker, it's a pretty nice burner, kinda like Nero in some ways and kinda like EZ CD creator in others. Though I only burn data disks, it has options for image creation and audio. Not sure about VCDs and A/V editing (which is what Nero seems to have)
No, Nero - on Windows - is a suite of various applications. NeroLINUX is just the equivalent of Nero Burning ROM (one part of the Nero suite), although it's basically just GnomeBaker.

[xequence]

No, Nero - on Windows - is a suite of various applications. NeroLINUX is just the equivalent of Nero Burning ROM (one part of the Nero suite), although it's basically just GnomeBaker.

I just recently aquired a nero CD and it has a whole bunch of programs on it, totalling 1.4 GB if I install it all :P

[prizrak]

No, Nero - on Windows - is a suite of various applications. NeroLINUX is just the equivalent of Nero Burning ROM (one part of the Nero suite), although it's basically just GnomeBaker.
Hmmmm :)

[kalosaurusrex]

Maybe I missed this part, but Ubuntu play mp3's great, pending you have the correct deps installed. Ditch windows and use Amarok or XMMS, I like Amarok because it's got a pretty cool libary sort of thing, and you can sort and what not. XMMS has some pretty kick **** plugins. And I use GnomeBaker to burn stuff on cd, I've heard of people using Nero and such, but GnomeBaker works great for me, if I need to copy a cd I just save it as an ISO and then burn it to cd, then I don't have to switch discs and such, and I have a backup of the cd anyway. And when I need to burn a cd, I just pop in the cd, copy the files to the cd and write disc. Seems to do everything great, for at least what I need.

Just confused why you are keeping windows around to play music, when I listen to music all day while I'm Ubuntuing. :p (Did I invent a new word?)

[kalosaurusrex]

Sorry I just realized something, can't you boot from the live cd, install gparted, partition a space large enough for ubuntu, install ubuntu, (assuming your windows is a fat32 partition), mount the 32 bit partition, delete all the extra windows crap, and use the fat32 partition as your music storage partition? then you'd have a split partition with your music nice and safe on the other partition, just in case, but it would never happen, you know. and you'd just need to mount the 32bit partition, so you'd have what 10 gigs or something for music and ubuntu? Just an idea. You'd need to clean up the grub, but really if you never selected the windows boot from the menu, I don't think it would really matter.

Just an idea.