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Rackerz
December 17th, 2005, 11:20 AM
Well it was fun while it lasted, maybe Linux aint for me? Nothing seemed to want to work for me so im going to merge my partitions again. Thanks everybody for the help you gave me while i was here. I guess it's just not time for Ubuntu yet. I'll stay around of course.

Thanks guys ;)

prizrak
December 17th, 2005, 11:24 AM
Sad to see you go, maybe try out some other distro? Well we hope you come back maybe with Dapper :)

mistic
December 17th, 2005, 11:36 AM
Why see things so black-or-white?

there's dual-boot-solutions for a reason :D

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=58017 => thought you might like this thread.

My first couple of months in Linux were a downright HELL, but in the end it generally works out, just as it did for me, now I'm 3 years completely windows-free... I Allways think its kind of a waste when people give up after a month or so, not only your own time, but also the time of everybody who tried to help you on the forum/IRC wherever... I would defenetly not just throw all that out as it makes it harder for new users to get help since a lot of people will eventually start thinking its not worth helping 'noobs' since there are so many that just give up...

If you keep a dual-boot however, you can easily keep an eye on the advance of Ubuntu / whatever distro you want to use...

grts
mistic

aysiu
December 17th, 2005, 12:11 PM
I'd echo prizrak on this--consider giving another distro a try. They don't differ much in terms of day-to-day use, but they are quite different when it comes to:
1. what comes preinstalled
2. hardware detection
3. package management

If you like Debian-based distros, consider giving Mepis a try.

If not, well... best of luck to you, wherever you end up.

DJiNN
December 17th, 2005, 12:24 PM
Well it was fun while it lasted, maybe Linux aint for me? Nothing seemed to want to work for me so im going to merge my partitions again. Thanks everybody for the help you gave me while i was here. I guess it's just not time for Ubuntu yet. I'll stay around of course.

Thanks guys ;)

Hey, Rackerz....

I know how U feel.... i have been a long time computer user, & although i have tried Linux throughout the years, my addiction 2 WinDoze was such that i gave up with Linux VERY easily.....

BUT, i have now tried again & installed Ubuntu Breezy 5.10, and run Automatix 2 install all the stuff that i want 2 have, and it ROCKS!!! I'm still having problems, but i get problems all the time on XP..... it's just that i have used it 4 so long i know how 2 deal with most of them.

I would say stick with Ubuntu, because i really don't feel that U will find better, but there R so many distros out there 2 choose from..... depending upon what U require. MEPIS is excellent, and well worth a try..... always worked 4 me, i just don't like KDE that much & there's nowhere NEAR as much support as there is 4 Ubuntu, and that in itself is worth a lot.

Whatever U choose, i hope it works 4 U...... Good luck & hope 2 C U back here soon. :)

DJiNN

tanari
December 17th, 2005, 12:27 PM
My way to linux wasn't very easy.
My first distro was mandrake 9, I have installed it, used it for half an hour and formated. I simply didn't understand why I need linux. Second distro was mandrake 10, it has so many bugs and problems... 2 weeks were enough to uninstall it :). Third distro was SuSE 9, good distro, without serious bugs, all work, but a little slow. Next was Yoper, fast, but a dead project now, no new versions and news about it. It took 1 or 2 years to switch to linux.

Now I'am a 100% linux user! Every new version of Ubuntu become better and better.

GeneralZod
December 17th, 2005, 12:53 PM
Sorry to see you go, Hampshire-ish buddy :) You're always welcome back if you want to give Dapper a shot ;)

Rackerz
December 17th, 2005, 01:15 PM
Thanks for the replies guys, I've taken into consideration what you've said. I might try again, maybe just with Ubuntu this time. No Kubuntu, which is where i see most of my problems.

DJiNN
December 17th, 2005, 01:35 PM
Thanks for the replies guys, I've taken into consideration what you've said. I might try again, maybe just with Ubuntu this time. No Kubuntu, which is where i see most of my problems.

Nice one Rackerz.... Way to Go!! :)

Ubuntu 5.10 works for me, and i've now started using it MORE than XP, and i've only had it on for a few days!! No one's more amazed than me... but it rocks!! :)

Good luck, & i can heartily recommend AutoMatix (I think that's what it's called) for Automatic install of things that would otherwise be very time consuming. Certainly made my start with Ubuntu a lot easier. :)

DJiNN

aysiu
December 17th, 2005, 01:36 PM
Thanks for the replies guys, I've taken into consideration what you've said. I might try again, maybe just with Ubuntu this time. No Kubuntu, which is where i see most of my problems. I don't know. Depending on what the "nothing seems to be working" for you was, that may not be a good idea--after all, Ubuntu and Kubuntu are really the same operating system (with the same hardware detection and multimedia lack of support) with just different desktop environments.

If you're going to stick with Linux, either realize that Ubuntu will probably take as much work to get working as Kubuntu or try another distro.

curuxz
December 17th, 2005, 01:52 PM
Sad to see another user saying good bye, esp one so near to my house in southampton, I was dreaming of the first pure linux county in england, ah well Hamp with have to go on without for a while.

Good luck and hope people that are having problems return when we get dap :)

Rackerz
December 17th, 2005, 02:27 PM
Well, im going to try and go with Mepis, but so far the one thing most other distro's are lacking, is the support. These forums are the quickest way to get support and the easiest, i haven't seen another distro which is comparing with that at the moment.

ninotob
December 17th, 2005, 02:40 PM
It's ok to give up when your frustration level reaches a certain point. I tried linux twice before it finally stuck -- 1997 and 2000. It wasn't till 2001 that I really started to get it. Now, windows is hard for me. Just resolve to try it again in 6 months with a fresh unfrustrated mind.

EDIT: the easiest way to learn is to get involved with a LUG (linux user group -- just google your city name and LUG). Online forums are nice but sometimes there is no substitute to having someone sit next to you and say, "ok you do this like this".

Rackerz
December 17th, 2005, 03:06 PM
It's ok to give up when your frustration level reaches a certain point. I tried linux twice before it finally stuck -- 1997 and 2000. It wasn't till 2001 that I really started to get it. Now, windows is hard for me. Just resolve to try it again in 6 months with a fresh unfrustrated mind.

EDIT: the easiest way to learn is to get involved with a LUG (linux user group -- just google your city name and LUG). Online forums are nice but sometimes there is no substitute to having someone sit next to you and say, "ok you do this like this".

Thanks for that! I didn't even think there would be one for my city.

CaptainMorgan
December 17th, 2005, 11:49 PM
Being active in open source for about 8 months now, like others who have longer experience are saying, giving up so soon - in your case only a month - really is sad. You can't possibly expect to get an upper hand in less than a month.

I had considerable trouble at first, probably just like you. I still have troubles when I switch between distros... but it became an addiction to me as Im not one to give up... ( do not mean the holier than thou attitude ), but that's me.. I like a fight. Getting software to run on one shot sometimes seems that Im not in control.

good luck to you nevertheless.

Adrenal
December 18th, 2005, 12:21 AM
Cheerio good friend, cheerio

mmcmonster
January 7th, 2006, 09:38 PM
I would like to echo that getting used to Linux is a process. Admittedly Ubuntu is one of the best newbie distributions, but there is still a lot of tinkering under the hood to get things working "just right". I've gone through Fedora Core 1 & 2, Vector Linux, and probably another 1 or 2 before hitting Ubuntu. Now my computer dual boots 90% into Linux, and 10% into WindowsXP (for DVD copying, which I still can't figure out properly in Ubuntu:-( ).

Dual booting is a great idea. It can give you time off to cool off, and then restart.

Another thing I highly recommend is using Ext2 IFS (http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html) under windows. This gives Windows XP full read and write ability on an EXT2 or EXT3 filesystem. Since Ubuntu can't write to NTFS, I have windows read and write EXT2. And since EXT3 is forwards and backwards compatible with EXT2, I can freely exchange files between the two OSes.

I've been using it for ~3-4 months without a hitch. The only caveat is that it has to be disabled if you are resizing the partition (disabling it takes a couple seconds in the control panel and doesn't require uninstalling anything).

23meg
January 7th, 2006, 09:51 PM
I suggest that you list the problems that led you to quitting here in this thread, and link to threads in which you asked for help on them, so that people who may have missed them can take a look at them and maybe help you. I've seen many open minded newcomers posting "I give up, back to Windows" threads and then getting their problems solved in those very threads and continuing happily with Ubuntu.

poofyhairguy
January 7th, 2006, 10:02 PM
I suggest one thing:

Try SUSE. Really. It and Ubuntu are like ying and yang for some reason.

Otherwise I wish you luck in life- thanks for trying. Please remember the good parts!

Iandefor
January 7th, 2006, 10:08 PM
Well it was fun while it lasted, maybe Linux aint for me? Nothing seemed to want to work for me so im going to merge my partitions again. Thanks everybody for the help you gave me while i was here. I guess it's just not time for Ubuntu yet. I'll stay around of course.

Thanks guys ;) Sorry you had all that trouble. Well, whatever works for you. I encourage you try it out again when Dapper's released, though. You might have a better time (take note of the word "might") with Dapper.
I'm surprised some people have such trouble with Ubuntu; I've had very little trouble getting my computer up and running. Beyond my curse of bad discs, everything went very smoothly.

xequence
January 7th, 2006, 10:08 PM
Whatever works for you :)

mstlyevil
January 7th, 2006, 10:10 PM
Sorry you had all that trouble. Well, whatever works for you. I encourage you try it out again when Dapper's released, though. You might have a better time (take note of the word "might") with Dapper.
I'm surprised some people have such trouble with Ubuntu; I've had very little trouble getting my computer up and running. Beyond my curse of bad discs, everything went very smoothly.

Iandefor, try burning your disk at 24x speed and see if that doesn't help you get an uncorrupted disk. I used to have problems until I took that advice and I have not had a corrupted disk since.

And to the OP, take poofy's advice and try Suse 10. It has been around longer and detects hardware that stumps many distros.

Iandefor
January 7th, 2006, 10:17 PM
Iandefor, try burning your disk at 24x speed and see if that doesn't help you get an uncorrupted disk. I used to have problems until I took that advice and I have not had a corrupted disk since.
I say "curse" for a very specific reason, mystlyevil. I've ordered about eight discs from Shipit, and they've all been bad (Well, one managed to install twice. Then it went bad again). I also burned about three discs at 10x and those were all bad, too. But thanks for the suggestion; I got a new cd/rw drive which I plan to try out as soon as I get my mitts on a few blank discs. I'll see if I have better luck with it using your advice.

angeleyes
January 9th, 2006, 06:09 PM
hi Im trying to find out how to get into my XP from Ubuntu..
somehow during the installation of Ubuntu I lost a boot file I need to run my XP.
Is there any way I can find and reinstall the boot file to my XP from Ubuntu?
the file Im missing is this:
<Windows root>\system32\hal.dll.
I hope someone can help...I have alot of pictures and stuff in my XP that I can see but not move or burn to disk.
Thanks for any help ..
Angeleyes

neoflight
January 9th, 2006, 06:18 PM
Well it was fun while it lasted, maybe Linux aint for me? Nothing seemed to want to work for me so im going to merge my partitions again. Thanks everybody for the help you gave me while i was here. I guess it's just not time for Ubuntu yet. I'll stay around of course.

Thanks guys ;)

boomerang!!!

Hang in there buddy... I started just a month back eventho i registered in this forum in nov. some of the issues were challenging and some a pity.

but there is a pleasure in getting things done and solving some problems besides the obvious glamour. more and more people are pouring in each day... if i can stay around u can too..atleast we are all learning..i cudnt have come this much without the help of this excellent forum..the most prestigious and useful of all linux forums on earth.

information density can be intimidating attimes...we are to go one step at a time...
good luck.