I had to share - what a slick OS!

[cjnkns]

many of you in these forums have probably already seen or know about OpenGeu, but man is it COOL!

What a beautiful OS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl2hnwWAU2w

[smartboyathome]

I love E17, though I like OzOs better than OpenGEU, and Arch+E17 even better than both of those. ;)

[cjnkns]

OzOs is very nice looking :)

How stable is it compared to gnome?

[Northsider]

WOW, very cool! Never seen this before...certainly eye-pleasing

[BGFG]

I love E17, though I like OzOs better than OpenGEU, and Arch+E17 even better than both of those. ;)

What about E17 and Gentoo ?

[kellemes]

For Arch users there is a wiki-entry on how to get Gnome and E17 working nice together.. Enlightenome (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Enlightenome)

Surely it's possible for Ubuntu too.. personally I'm on Arch so can't help here.
OpenGeu shows how cool this is indeed!

[Mason Whitaker]

I absolutely love the penguins! :D

[gjoellee]

Ubuntu + E17 - GNOME= OpenGEU

[Northsider]

Just isntalled it. It's pretty cool.

[smartboyathome]

What about E17 and Gentoo ?

Never used Gentoo, as if I am going that route, I will go with LFS and install the Pacman package manager on it. ;)

About how stable is Enlightenment: it won't be stable, as it is still considered "pre-alpha" software by it's creator (which, lets be honest, is a perfectionist, and won't release it as stable until every little thing is perfect :P).

[cammin]

I absolutely love the penguins! :D

xpenguins is in Ubuntu's repository and probably in most others.

I like the sliding windows effect when you change workspaces, myself. The aperature effect of eterm can be used for some neat ideas, too. I could spend days just dreaming up and creating effects for that.

[Sephoroth]

E17 is pretty good but I usually end up only running it every once in a while...I always end up returning to GNOME + Compiz.

[smartboyathome]

E17 is pretty good but I usually end up only running it every once in a while...I always end up returning to GNOME + Compiz.

E17 is more for people who want eye candy, but not at the expense of using more memory (and lets be honest, when compared to E17, Gnome+Compiz is a pig).

[toasty_ghosty]

E17 is actually very stable - especially for being beta (I dont think it is alpha anymore). I have just as many issues in Gnome as I do in Enlightenment. It is a completely different feel compared to Gnome as well. I feel that I am more productive in Gnome, however, for just normal usage, I'd rather use Enlightenment.

[SomeGuyDude]

E17's animations and whatnot are pretty, but in terms of the structure of the thing it is amongst the least attractive DE's I've ever used. I've done OpenBox, GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Flux, Awesome, Xmonad, WMII, DWM, LXDE, and IceWM, and e17 was a less pleasant experience than any of the others. At least for me.

[spupy]

Maybe I'm too much of a minimalist, but I didn't like it very much. They seriously forgot to put another dock on the left!

I remember using E17 about an year ago, it was pretty alpha back then, had couple of crashes. How stable is it now?

[Tux Aubrey]

I remember using E17 about an year ago, it was pretty alpha back then, had couple of crashes. How stable is it now?

Stability is a multi-headed beast!

A good build of e17 is, IMO, a VERY stable desktop. I get virtually no crashes, error messages etc. I honestly get more problems with Gnome than e17. The build used on OpenGeu is pretty good - a couple of month old now and I think and there have been quite a few developments in e17 since then (most of which I like). Because all pre-packaged versions of e17 are unofficial, I don't expect them to be updated too often (although the debian packaging team seems to be on a faster track now than it was six months ago).

Some of the "optional" components (ie modules) that expand e17 into an almost fully featured DE are unstable (and I suspect that several of them will be abandoned). There are also a number of developers doing interesting stuff outside the main development line so there is getting to be quite an interesting library of apps and utilities designed specifically for e17. On the other hand, gtk apps mostly work really well with e17 - so you have a lot of choice.

The e17 codebase is very unstable (in that it changes often) - mostly it builds OK but there are enough bad revisions to keep you on your toes.

IMO, OpenGeu is probably the best of the Debian-based distros around using prepackaged e17. OzOS is a different concept - it uses scripts to build e17 fresh (after the first install, which currently has a version of about the same vintage as OpenGeu). The scripts (based on Morlenxus' easy_e17 with Rui Pais enhancements and additional features, make it pretty safe to build from code as often as you like - but it is still a bit of an adventure into the unknown each time you do it!). OzOS is also available as just the metapackages that add the desktop and tools to any 'buntu (or other Debian) distro.

I enjoy reading others impressions of e17 and e17 distros. It really is so configurable it can look like almost you want. You are basically free to build your desktop anyway you like it - menus, icons, gadgets, shelves, theme, whatever - entirely minimal or maxed out with desktop gadgets and eyecandy effects. The "default" look is just the developers' "serving suggestion". But there is a definite learning curve to climb before you get productive with it.

[Sand & Mercury]

E17's animations and whatnot are pretty, but in terms of the structure of the thing it is amongst the least attractive DE's I've ever used. I've done OpenBox, GNOME, KDE, XFCE, Flux, Awesome, Xmonad, WMII, DWM, LXDE, and IceWM, and e17 was a less pleasant experience than any of the others. At least for me.

I get this impression too. It is very convoluted at the moment. I love how it has configuration options for pretty much everything, but they are currently laid out badly. They need to work out a way to lay things out to be a bit more accessible, like KDE's System Settings is set up. If they can clean it up a little, I'd be jumping at it. It's a very bling WM, that's for sure. Love all the little animations, going back to Gnome feels very static and lifeless in comparison.

[SomeGuyDude]

That's just it to me. TOO much is moving and there's TOO much bling, and when I'm on GNOME Compiz is just par for the course.

I'll definitely give it a try if, like you said, it becomes a little "cleaner".

[Tux Aubrey]

That's just it to me. TOO much is moving and there's TOO much bling, and when I'm on GNOME Compiz is just par for the course.

I'll definitely give it a try if, like you said, it becomes a little "cleaner".

The amount of "Bling" is totally under user control - turn off the "bling" module, use a more static theme (to avoid menu animations) and turn off animations for windows and Virtual Desktops. It then behaves more like fluxbox.

The config layout in e17 is indeed confusing - but it is rapidly changing. The new Settings Panel is a little cleaner than the old "config" dialog but the terminology can be (no, is) still be confusing. I'm not sure which one the current OpenGeu is using.

[Twitch6000]

E17 is more for people who want eye candy, but not at the expense of using more memory (and lets be honest, when compared to E17, Gnome+Compiz is a pig).

+1 to this... I just barly got E17 working in Linux Mint and well I love E17... I am trying out chakra now and the DE im going to be using is E17 :D.

[zoe-scutterbug]

OpenGEU 8.04.1 settings manager currently looks like the attached
but the 8.10 is due out any moment and 9.04 soon afterwards.

zo:popcorn:
happy OpenGEU user


The amount of "Bling" is totally under user control - turn off the "bling" module, use a more static theme (to avoid menu animations) and turn off animations for windows and Virtual Desktops. It then behaves more like fluxbox.

The config layout in e17 is indeed confusing - but it is rapidly changing. The new Settings Panel is a little cleaner than the old "config" dialog but the terminology can be (no, is) still be confusing. I'm not sure which one the current OpenGeu is using.

[zoe-scutterbug]

so its prob the older one but its pretty easy to use

zo:popcorn:
happy OpenGEU user

p.s. I rewrote this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geubuntu