View Full Version : [SOLVED] fresh arch gnome/fluxbox install, what else do i need?
tjwoosta
December 17th, 2008, 03:04 PM
i have installed arch with gnome/fluxbox
i have even themed it all up and everything is looking great
but there are some concerns i have considering that i have never done a base install of any distros before
1. what should i do for a firewall, if anything?
i mean what do i need to do to make my arch install as secure as a fresh ubuntu install (or better)
2. how do i get my sound to work like ubuntu does?
(or better yet can i make it work like elive does, because elive works perfectly for games where ubuntu doesnt)
right now when i try to open the volume manager it says "no gstreamer volume control plugins and/or devices found"
obviousl, i have no clue what i am doing when it comes to sound
3. is there anything else that i need to do that i might be forgetting?
up untill now i have been following the arch wikki (and its awesome) but now i have no idea where to look because i have no idea what i am looking for
sisco311
December 17th, 2008, 03:33 PM
2. how do i get my sound to work like ubuntu does?
(or better yet can i make it work like elive does, because elive works perfectly for games where ubuntu doesnt)
right now when i try to open the volume manager it says "no gstreamer volume control plugins and/or devices found"
obviousl, i have no clue what i am doing when it comes to sound
did you add your user to the audio group?
list the groups:
id
add your user to the group, as root:
usermod -aG audio username
(log out and log back in for the changes to take effect)
tjwoosta
December 17th, 2008, 03:57 PM
wow, ok i feel stupid now
i had like every group except audio
but thank you it worked perfectly
how about the firewall?
smartboyathome
December 17th, 2008, 04:19 PM
I'd say that you don't really need a firewall if you are behind a router. Are you? Also, I think the built in ip-tables kernel based firewall is configured already.
tjwoosta
December 17th, 2008, 05:36 PM
i am behind a my router right now when im home, but i am usually not on my home network
this is a laptop
i also thought that iptables was part of the kernel untill i found these two wiki pages
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firewalls
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Simple_stateful_firewall_HOWTO
i searched pacman and found that iptabes is actually not installed yet
so now i see that iptables is not installed or configured by default
do you guys think this "simple stateful firewall" setup will be comparable to the defualt ubuntu iptables config?
does anybody know of any better way to configure iptables for laptop use?
crimesaucer
December 17th, 2008, 06:01 PM
pacman -Sy firestarter
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/?q=firestarter
Firewall wiki: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firewalls
Alsa Wiki: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ALSA
will1911a1
December 17th, 2008, 06:08 PM
To my knowledge, Ubuntu iptables isn't configured at all by default.
As crimesaucer has pointed out, install Firestarter and you'll be well on your way.
crimesaucer
December 17th, 2008, 06:16 PM
To my knowledge, Ubuntu iptables isn't configured at all by default.
As crimesaucer has pointed out, install Firestarter and you'll be well on your way.
To get the iptables to work you would have to follow this part of the Firewall wiki for iptables: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firewalls#iptables
Firestarter is much easier to configure and use.
tjwoosta
December 17th, 2008, 08:28 PM
ok i ended up just going for it and im glad i did
i followed this guide word for word (it is much clearer and more in depth then the other posted firewall wikis)
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Simple_stateful_firewall_HOWTO
it works beautifully
and i feel so much more secure now...
To my knowledge, Ubuntu iptables isn't configured at all by default.
As crimesaucer has pointed out, install Firestarter and you'll be well on your way.
what! really?
back when i had ubuntu installed i was told that it was already configured and i didnt need to worry about it
those bastards...
anyway i have now learned the art of iptables, thanks to the arch wiki, and i dont think i will have to ever worry about it again
thanks all for your help
Barrucadu
December 18th, 2008, 09:35 AM
what! really?
back when i had ubuntu installed i was told that it was already configured and i didnt need to worry about it
Yes, really. That's because there are no listening services by default on Ubuntu, so a firewall is useless anyway - same on Arch. So, the firewall will happily sit around and do nothing unless you install some form of server.
tjwoosta
December 18th, 2008, 12:18 PM
ahh, i see
well it cant hurt to use it anyway
will1911a1
December 19th, 2008, 08:45 AM
Won't hurt at all unless you misconfigure it like I did. I don't recall what I did exactly, but at one point I could not get online at all until I removed iptables.
Anyway, good luck. :) I hope you're enjoying Arch!
tjwoosta
December 19th, 2008, 12:54 PM
thanks
i am definatly enjoying my arch!
check out my screenshots here
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6400039&posted=1#post6400039
will1911a1
December 19th, 2008, 01:43 PM
Looks good. I'm a big fan of fluxbox actually. :)
Xiong Chiamiov
December 22nd, 2008, 01:06 AM
thanks
i am definatly enjoying my arch!
check out my screenshots here
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6400039&posted=1#post6400039
Your screens look really nice. Sometime, though, when you're feeling adventurous, try out awesome (http://awesome.naquadah.org/), or another tiling window manager. They're not for everyone, but you might find that it works well for you.
tjwoosta
December 22nd, 2008, 01:32 PM
Your screens look really nice. Sometime, though, when you're feeling adventurous, try out awesome, or another tiling window manager. They're not for everyone, but you might find that it works well for you.
its funny that you mention that because i was thinking about stepping it up and trying out awesome
Xiong Chiamiov
December 22nd, 2008, 01:51 PM
One thing that will save you a lot of trouble: read the man page for awesomerc. It lists the default bindings for things, which is helpful, as the official documentation has a lot of holes and is in the process of moving from awesome2 to awesome3.
Also, you might find it easier to hit the mod4+# keycombo for switching desktops if you remap caps lock to another mod4 (windows key). You can do that by putting this in your ~/.xinitrc:
# remap caps lock to windows key
xmodmap -e 'add Mod4 = Caps_Lock'
tjwoosta
December 22nd, 2008, 02:03 PM
thanks, ill keep that in mind
tjwoosta
December 23rd, 2008, 03:42 PM
well... i did it
i installed awesome
and i have to say, it's awesome!!
at first it was a bit confusing because i didn't understand the keys, and the layout options but after reading the manual, and a bit of the wiki, it all came fairly easily
only about 10 mins playing around and i feel right at home with it
i just can't believe i didn't try it sooner
tiling windows definatly makes so much more sense then floating windows
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