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Vince4Amy
December 16th, 2008, 05:09 PM
Well according to the countdown on the OpenSUSE website it's going to be released tomorrow.
Anybody looking forward to installing 11.1. I'm sure this release will be awesome just like the last one was. OpenSUSE is the only distro apart from Slackware that I Install and enjoy using.
I'm going to stick with KDE 3.5.10 this time because KDE 4.1 is still not there for me (I want a classic desktop not a folder view widget, but I understand this will be in 4.2).
Anyhow I'm going to download and install tomorrow anybody else giving it a go on release day?
Sorivenul
December 16th, 2008, 08:06 PM
I always test OpenSUSE on release. 11.0 was a vast improvement over the 10.x series, though still had some quirks, which I understand should be mostly worked out for 11.1. I'll be downloading. It may even replace one of my systems if I feel it worthy.
Growbag
December 17th, 2008, 07:02 AM
Yup, blank 8gig USB drive all ready to go :).
If I can live with KDE4 this time, then it will go onto my hard drive and remain there until the next release :D.
Apparently Nvidia made some "improvements" in their driver to address the slow KDE4 desktop, so it will be nice to feel it as it should be.
Although I tried two of the latest drivers under my current version (11.0, KDE 3.x) and Enemy Territory didn't work properly. I had to revert back to an older Nvidia driver.
So it might come down to choosing KDE4 or ET, and KDE4 will always lose out there!
Maybe Nvidia will fix the problem they created while fixing the other problem ö_Ö.
stream303
December 17th, 2008, 03:12 PM
Well, 19 hours to go as of this writing.
I'm excited about doing a minimal net-install for my ppc Mac.
I did a test-run with 11.0, and was very glad to see that OpenSuse took some of the pain away for those wishing to install onto very low-memory machines, or those who don't want a desktop environment - just a window manager like IceWM.
With Ubuntu or Debian, one usually installs just the commandline or server environment, and then apt-get's all the X components manually if they want to bring up a minimal system by themselves.
OpenSuse went just one step further by allowing for a minimal install that will put IceWM, xdm, a handful of useful apps, and even Cups for printing on the system for you. Nice!
Even though XFCE (Xubuntu for Ubuntu fans) is nice and slim, it still might be a bit bloated for those 64 to 128mb machines out there.
With the relaxed Eula, 11.1 might be a very serious environment for me now.
ingvildr
December 18th, 2008, 08:27 AM
I'm going to stick with KDE 3.5.10 this time because KDE 4.1 is still not there for me (I want a classic desktop not a folder view widget, but I understand this will be in 4.2).
They backported that from 4.2.
Vince4Amy
December 18th, 2008, 02:48 PM
They backported that from 4.2.
Yes, I just installed it the KDE 4.1 LiveCD (Might not bother with the DVD now). Wow it's amazing. I can have my icons my way and it's stable.
Antman
December 18th, 2008, 03:16 PM
Although Slackware will stay on my main desktop and laptop, I will try openSUSE11.1 in VM and than try it on my test laptop.
ingvildr
December 19th, 2008, 12:48 AM
Yes, I just installed it the KDE 4.1 LiveCD (Might not bother with the DVD now). Wow it's amazing. I can have my icons my way and it's stable.
Yea i was planning on upgrading straight to kde 4.2 beta 2 but with how well its working atm i think i will just leave it, well done opensuse :p
icecruncher
December 19th, 2008, 05:46 AM
downloaded it, but I can't get it past the 2 screen.
probably a bad burn.
I'll try again.
Antman
December 19th, 2008, 10:27 AM
I loaded the KDE liveCD onto my test laptop. I haven't had time to play with it fully, but it looks as though most of the new stuff is under the hood. On the surface it looks like 11.0.
I'll test multimedia, Yast and zypper stuff tonight.
icecruncher
December 19th, 2008, 11:24 AM
take a look at the release notes. no more zypper if I am correct, it moved to packagekit.
Antman
December 19th, 2008, 11:49 AM
take a look at the release notes. no more zypper if I am correct, it moved to packagekit.
](*,)
So... how do you install packages via the command line now without zypper?!?
Zypper in 11.0 was fast. I find it hard to believe it would be abandoned.
Sorivenul
December 19th, 2008, 12:46 PM
From the OpenSUSE updates list on the Novell website:
Further improvements to software management through improvements to the zypper/libzypp utilities
Looks like zypper is still there, and better than ever. Haven't installed myself, yet, but will later today.
Antman
December 19th, 2008, 02:08 PM
From the OpenSUSE updates list on the Novell website:
Looks like zypper is still there, and better than ever. Haven't installed myself, yet, but will later today.
Good to hear... zypper was pretty darn good in 11.0, can't wait to see how it behaves in 11.1:KS
Vince4Amy
December 19th, 2008, 03:30 PM
Yes zypper is still there. It's as fast as it was before, I haven't noticed any change in it and it works great as always.
Erunno
December 19th, 2008, 04:59 PM
PackageKit is an abstraction layer which can use different backends for actual package management, i.e openSUSE uses a libzypp as backend while Fedora uses yum.
Ozeuss
December 20th, 2008, 04:16 PM
Um, I don't want to hijack this thread or anything, but is there any simple way to upgrade suse from 11.0 to 11.1 without having to download the whole cd?
i tried "zypper dup", but that didn't cut it.
Antman
December 20th, 2008, 06:04 PM
Um, I don't want to hijack this thread or anything, but is there any simple way to upgrade suse from 11.0 to 11.1 without having to download the whole cd?
i tried "zypper dup", but that didn't cut it.
Did you do all the steps listed here:
http://en.opensuse.org/Upgrade
Ozeuss
December 22nd, 2008, 07:04 AM
Thanks...
I feel kinda silly, somehow i missed that page.
halovivek
December 22nd, 2008, 08:26 AM
Well according to the countdown on the OpenSUSE website it's going to be released tomorrow.
Anybody looking forward to installing 11.1. I'm sure this release will be awesome just like the last one was. OpenSUSE is the only distro apart from Slackware that I Install and enjoy using.
I'm going to stick with KDE 3.5.10 this time because KDE 4.1 is still not there for me (I want a classic desktop not a folder view widget, but I understand this will be in 4.2).
Anyhow I'm going to download and install tomorrow anybody else giving it a go on release day?
Yesterday i have downloaded and installed it. i have yet to configure more. but nice installation window.
wykedengel
December 23rd, 2008, 01:26 PM
I downloaded OpenSUSE 11.1 and was immediately impressed by the overall look of the distro. However--and maybe it is because I am not used to OS--it seems that Ubuntu is a little easier to use.
icecruncher
December 24th, 2008, 05:02 AM
sorry about that piece of misinformation. talk from the uneducated always brings confusion. :P
well, I did install it, first gnome, then did a format and went to kde.
I can't tell what I like more. they both look and handle very nice.
I haven't experienced any problems either.
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