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lazylew
December 11th, 2008, 10:20 PM
using Sound Juicer is impossible; it always freezes after a few minutes and I have to do a cold start (and Linux doesn't like that I believe)

any idea what causes this?
should I throw it out and try another cd-ripper? if so, any suggestions which one?

thanks
ps there's also a freeze problem in Audacity at times, as I posted in another (unanswered) thread, but with sound juicer it's chronical

Michael.Godawski
December 11th, 2008, 10:23 PM
hi lazylew,
what happens if you run sound juicer in terminal?


sound-juicer

and error messages?

sneeks
December 11th, 2008, 11:10 PM
you could always try asunder,i prefer it myself.

lazylew
December 11th, 2008, 11:14 PM
hi lazylew,
what happens if you run sound juicer in terminal?...
It starts up, then I click the button to extract and after 5 minutes everything's come to a halt... got the terminal in view and there's no error report, but I also can't continue in terminal or anywhere - it's all frozen and I have to cold start again.

lazylew
December 11th, 2008, 11:16 PM
you could always try asunder,i prefer it myself.
synaptic doesn't find it though...

lazylew
December 12th, 2008, 10:35 AM
meanwhile I found asunder on getdeb.net and installed it

it looked promising but stopped ripping at 50% total progress (rip 80% encoding 20%)
everything frozen...

I also tried changing device (now again with sound juicer, not seeing how to change it in asunder) and that didn't improve things - it had the same result

ctrl alt backspace also never works when this freezing happens (my backspace button doesn't work in firefox browsing either, for going back a page, but I don't know if in ubuntu it is supposed to do that)

music is my main thing, so I really use an application like this a lot
I'm stuck... :confused:

nothingspecial
December 12th, 2008, 11:06 AM
Try grip. If you have a lot of cds to get through you can set it to automatically rip on insert and eject when finished, so theres no mouse clicking or button pushing, you just keep on putting them in.

lazylew
December 12th, 2008, 10:13 PM
Try grip...
I downloaded it and, again, this looked promising but broke down after a few minutes.

I think this proves it is not Sound Juicer, Asunder or Grip showing a flaw, but something in Ubuntu or (more likely?) my hardware??

I hope it's solvable without complicated kernel-surgery or the likes, because that's unknown terrain to me.

sydbat
December 12th, 2008, 10:42 PM
If you have tried all these different programs and get the same result, I would suggest that it may be a hardware problem.

On your next reboot, go to memtest in the grub menu. It will let you know if your RAM is OK. If that works, it might be anything from your sound card to your processor or anything else hardware related.

Also, can you post the specs for your computer (processor, RAM, video card, etc). It might be your hardware is simply not sufficient to run the programs you want.

sneeks
December 12th, 2008, 11:09 PM
as above mate,post the specs and it will give us a better idea

lazylew
December 13th, 2008, 12:28 AM
as above mate,post the specs and it will give us a better idea
I'm not too familiar with codes yet; what do I type in the terminal to get the output for all these specifics?

nothingspecial
December 13th, 2008, 12:47 AM
list your hardware with


lshw

and


lspci

NullHead
December 13th, 2008, 12:47 AM
I agree too, run memtest. I had something similar happen to me. I eventually figured out that I had one of my two sticks of ram were bad. It would only crash the computer when I start a program such as what you're running or start a game.

lazylew
December 13th, 2008, 12:58 AM
list your hardware...
this is it:

hardy
description: Computer
width: 32 bits
*-core
description: Motherboard
physical id: 0
*-memory
description: System memory
physical id: 0
size: 479MiB
*-cpu
product: AMD Duron(tm)
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]
physical id: 1
bus info: cpu@0
version: 6.7.1
size: 1300MHz
width: 32 bits
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up ts
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 0
size: 128KiB
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: 1
size: 64KiB
*-pci
description: Host bridge
product: 740 Host
vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: driver=agpgart-sis latency=32 module=sis_agp
*-pci
description: PCI bridge
product: Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master
*-display UNCLAIMED
description: VGA compatible controller
product: 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: vga_controller cap_list
configuration: latency=0
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: SiS962 [MuTIOL Media IO]
vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
physical id: 2
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
version: 25
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master
configuration: latency=0
*-serial
description: SMBus
product: SiS961/2 SMBus Controller
vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
physical id: 2.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: driver=sis96x_smbus latency=0 module=i2c_sis96x
*-ide
description: IDE interface
product: 5513 [IDE]
vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
physical id: 2.5
bus info: pci@0000:00:02.5
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ide bus_master
configuration: driver=pata_sis latency=128 module=pata_sis
*-usb:0
description: USB Controller
product: USB 1.1 Controller
vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
physical id: 3
bus info: pci@0000:00:03.0
version: 0f
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master
configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64 maxlatency=80 module=ohci_hcd
*-usb:1
description: USB Controller
product: USB 1.1 Controller
vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
physical id: 3.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:03.1
version: 0f
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master
configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64 maxlatency=80 module=ohci_hcd
*-usb:2
description: USB Controller
product: USB 2.0 Controller
vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
physical id: 3.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:03.3
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=64 maxlatency=80 module=ehci_hcd
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet
vendor: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
physical id: 4
bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0
logical name: eth0
version: 90
serial: 00:0d:87:18:3d:fe
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=sis900 driverversion=v1.08.10 Apr. 2 2006 ip=84.198.238.91 latency=64 maxlatency=11 mingnt=52 module=sis900 multicast=yes
*-multimedia
description: Multimedia audio controller
product: SB Audigy LS
vendor: Creative Labs
physical id: 9
bus info: pci@0000:00:09.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=CA0106 latency=64 maxlatency=20 mingnt=2 module=snd_ca0106

00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 740 Host (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS962 [MuTIOL Media IO] (rev 25)
00:02.1 SMBus: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS961/2 SMBus Controller
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE]
00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f)
00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 90)
00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter

lazylew
December 13th, 2008, 01:03 PM
I agree too, run memtest...
This was my very first memtest ever, so I didn't know what to expect.
I presumed when it ran for 1,5 hour and the "pass" was on 2, that the test was repeating, so then I booted again.

The test didn't find any errors.

NullHead
December 13th, 2008, 08:01 PM
This was my very first memtest ever, so I didn't know what to expect.
I presumed when it ran for 1,5 hour and the "pass" was on 2, that the test was repeating, so then I booted again.

The test didn't find any errors.

About an hour is good enough. You'll know if there's any errors. There will be a large red thingy that'll show on the bottom.

lazylew
December 13th, 2008, 08:03 PM
... if there's any errors. There will be a large red thingy that'll show on the bottom.
No errors, so it remains a mystery for now what the problem is... :confused:

mc4man
December 13th, 2008, 09:32 PM
What happens if you just try to copy an audio cd?
R. click on icon -> copy disc (output to a file, the .iso will be worthless, but you'll see if the disk can be read in a timely fashion.

lazylew
December 13th, 2008, 09:42 PM
What happens if you just try to copy an audio cd?
R. click on icon -> copy disc (output to a file, the .iso will be worthless, but you'll see if the disk can be read in a timely fashion.
well I've done a cd-burn today for an .iso (putting xubuntu on a very old machine to at least always have internet if this one goes wrong)

the burn was successfull

mc4man
December 13th, 2008, 11:20 PM
It appears then your failing on encoding. Most of the gui rippers won't give any useful info when started from the terminal, for that you'd need to use a cli ripper/encoder. (rubyripper is one

I'd go back to grip and have it rip and encode to ogg 1 track only, while it's working click on the status tab and see if anything useful shows up. (if it succedds on 1 then do the next 2 or 3 and see.

Ripping and burning aren't very cpu intensive, encoding is, don't know if there is some local issue there.

lazylew
December 14th, 2008, 08:02 AM
It appears then your failing on encoding. Most of the gui rippers won't give any useful info when started from the terminal, for that you'd need to use a cli ripper/encoder. (rubyripper is one

I'd go back to grip and have it rip and encode to ogg 1 track only, while it's working click on the status tab and see if anything useful shows up. (if it succedds on 1 then do the next 2 or 3 and see.

Ripping and burning aren't very cpu intensive, encoding is, don't know if there is some local issue there.

I downloaded rubyripper but typing it's name in terminal doesn't start the program.

I then started the GUI-way to at least try the program; all it gives is a "vorbis.log" like the one below here - I don't see any ripped tracks though!?


Starting to rip track 44, trial #1
Starting to rip track 44, trial #2
Analyzing files for mismatching chunks
Every chunk matched 2 times :)
MD5 sum: 60f9e80823753e4f06d390c5ff8ab7b3

WARNING: Encoding to vorbis exited with an error with track 44!Next I'll try grip again and look for that tab you mention.
EDIT: In grip I ripped without encoding and that worked very good.
Then I tried 1 track with encoding; good too (only, it didn't auto-eject), so I got brave and wanted to rip 4 tracks.
Whilst marking which tracks to rip it happened again.
Unfortunately I was in the "tracks" tab of course, not the "status", at that point.