I want two counters.

[earobinson]

I think it would be cool if users had to post counters one for the support, one for backyard community chat stuff.

EDIT to = two

[aysiu]

Shouldn't this be in the site discussions forum?
That was my suggestion, too, when I was a moderator. Nobody seemed too keen on it. I say, why not--you get the best of both worlds.

[earobinson]

Done and done, even added a poll

[ubuntu-geek]

This probably wont happen has it will require major code hacking to pull two seperate post counts. However I will see if its possible.

[earobinson]

Ya I understand that, It just poped into my head, and with all the community chat thats been going on I kinda wanted to know.

[xequence]

That was my suggestion, too, when I was a moderator. Nobody seemed too keen on it. I say, why not--you get the best of both worlds.

When did you stop being one? (Just wondering, I thought you still were :P)

As for me, I still think all posts should go on post count. What we have now is comparing community chat with the "test" and "spam" places on other sites.

Plus id have 1000+ posts by now if you guys didnt change it :(

[BWF89]

Yes I love Stats!

[aysiu]

When did you stop being one? (Just wondering, I thought you still were :P) A few days ago. I just want to be an ordinary forum member again, I guess.

[mlomker]

I just want to be an ordinary forum member again, I guess.

I think you're special! :D

You make a real difference here.

[tomwell]

You make a real difference here.

I'll second that!!! I havent been around for very long but i am hooked on reading up about stuff and i have read a lot of post you have contributed to.... They are cool!!!

Especially the Troll one... ( my Favourite...)

Peace

Tom

[aysiu]

Thanks for the reassurance. I'm still on and trying to help new users--I'm just not official staff.

[tomwell]

Thanks for the reassurance. I'm still on and trying to help new users--I'm just not official staff.

That might be the best way to achieve that with out having to part-take in "un acceptable behaviour"

Man am still a bit shocked with recent events...

Peace To All!!! (perhaps not too fascim) ;o)

Tom

[towsonu2003]

ok, offtopic, horribly, sorry: but I just needed to say your help made a real differnence. I see your help-replies everywhere (and usually before I even start typing :) )....

could someone post a howto about 'recent incidents'? I seem to miss them horribly (which is good)...

---sorry for offtopic----

[Goddess_of_Linux]

I makes sense, and it shouldn't take long to make the changes to have one counter be for support and another for community. At least then it would give newbies a chance to see that a person like Kassetra and the other moderators and staff members know what they are talking about, or if they are the some of the people that only post in the community area...

So it makes sense. Afterall, isn't ubuntu and kubuntu suppose to be growing and maturing along the way. If they don't impliment this then it might make them (the forum) seem not to be growing as fast as the distro.

EDIT= Right now the forum has change a lot from March to current day. March to Nov. was when I visited as a guest. So it should continue to grow.

Just my thoughts.
...Linux

[earobinson]

I dont think it is ever wise to judge the credibility of a post by the number of posts a user has, some of the best help I have goten has been from people with 32 posts and such.

Also whats to say that person just dosent as a lot of questions.

A rateing system for how credibal a user is is very hard to define, who knows maybe a count of posts that in threads not started by you would give a better idea of this.

[ubuntu-geek]

Picking a thought out of a hat maybe a community vote to remove posts counts is in store.

[earobinson]

Not remove, I love Stats, maybe to take them off, hum cant think of a name for it, your little thingy on the left lol,

Well turn this:
Status: (Online)
Posts: 1,111
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: USA
Style: Ubuntu_Brown_v3.5
Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 User

Into this:
Status: (Online)
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: USA
Style: Ubuntu_Brown_v3.5
Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 User

But in your user cp still keep your stats! Maybe this would be good or not, but Goddess_of_Linux did raise a good point that it is important for new users to have a way to judge how credible a post is. Not the intent of This post but still a good point.

However I would also like to point out that there are many more important changes going on right now, and this will take lots of programing, and I do not feel that this is a pressing issue. I was more interested in how many stats junkies like me are out there lol. One day I think it would be cool to have a user and forum stat page, if this ever happens I can make a long list of stats I would like :).

[tomwell]

I dont think it is ever wise to judge the credibility of a post by the number of posts a user has, some of the best help I have goten has been from people with 32 posts and such.

Also whats to say that person just dosent as a lot of questions.

A rateing system for how credibal a user is is very hard to define, who knows maybe a count of posts that in threads not started by you would give a better idea of this.


I agree with you that you can not make a general assumption that all people with a thousand posts will give you credible or even good advice, But someone with a thousand post even started by him means that that person roams the forums and reads a lot of posts... even if they are his he will get a lot of knowledge from doing this...Even if he just forwards you to another post that solved an identical problem to yours... Or even finds a post he remembers reading that solves... Or even a third he has probably encountered a lot of problems himself and is able to tell you what he did to solve his probs...

As a quick recap: number of posts is generaly a good guideline to how much knowledge that person has...(unless they have short term memory loss...) ;o)

Peace

Tom

[earobinson]

I have not yet encountered a post that has been answered so badly that it could do more harm than good, we also have the advantage of such a large user base that a between the OP's first post and time he reads the responces that post has been read by about 3 people (Im pulling numbers out of the air but you get the idea).

And I think I agree with tomwell that a user with 1000 posts is fairly trustable. Guess the 32 post guy/gurl just gets the shaft.
Good to know that in 303 tomwell will blindly trust my. "The way to fix your computer is to remove everything in the / dir" JK lol

Even if he just forwards you to another post that solved an identical problem to yoursI do this all the time :)

[tomwell]

Guess the 32 post guy just gets the shaft.

LMAO!!!

Not neccesarilly but... YES...;o)

Peace

Tom

[earobinson]

I just wanted to point this out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/subscription.php?do=viewsubscription peer review is what makes linux and the fourms great! :)

[xequence]

Picking a thought out of a hat maybe a community vote to remove posts counts is in store.

Maybe it is.

I dont think it is ever wise to judge the credibility of a post by the number of posts a user has, some of the best help I have goten has been from people with 32 posts and such.

Also whats to say that person just dosent as a lot of questions.

A rateing system for how credibal a user is is very hard to define, who knows maybe a count of posts that in threads not started by you would give a better idea of this.

I just like to know how much who I am talking to is active on the forums. Its not saying people with low posts are bad, its just, honestly - does it hurt anyone to have a post count that counts ALL posts, not just certain forums? If you honestly dont want to see the post count, dont look at it.

[matthew]

Picking a thought out of a hat maybe a community vote to remove posts counts is in store.Options:

-Remove post count completely
-Remove post count from public view, but leave it in User CP
-Leave the post count as it is, only adding to the total in tech forums
-Allow post count numbers to accumulate in all forums including chat, etc.

This issue has been discussed many times. Should we take a poll and finalize it?

[Goddess_of_Linux]

Like I stated in the forum started by Big Venus, a person like me, that is still working out a few solutions to optimize my ubuntu setup, would seem like I don't know what I am talking about. Even though I am a great security admin. and programmer, that amay know of a work around or solution that other people don't use or probably don't even know about.

EDIT= I would vote to either remove it completely or make it count in both Tech and Community areas as one post count like it was back in May...

[xequence]

This issue has been discussed many times. Should we take a poll and finalize it?

Yes.

[earobinson]

Just a random thought, I think that we sould see some users posting less in the support areas without the counter (Since the cool stats wouldent be there to go up) Also the same for if we inclueded the community chat in the count.

[poofyhairguy]

I wouldn't mind post count going away. At once it was a badge of honor, now it says that I better with Ubuntu than I really am.

[aysiu]

I wouldn't mind post count going away. At once it was a badge of honor, now it says that I better with Ubuntu than I really am. I feel the same way. It seems people are either wrongfully intimidated by or disdainful of me because of my high post count. My technical proficiency to post count ratio is very low.

[matthew]

I had another thought about post count. Instead of it being a measure of technical proficiency, etc., I do think it could be a accurate measurement of ones activity in the forums. :)

Okay, that sounds flippant.

What I am hinting at (poorly) is that high numbers show a certain level of interest in Ubuntu and specifically in this community--that doesn't necessarily translate to great knowledge or skill, but it does say something about commitment and presence. Someone with 5000 posts is less likely to say something intentionally misleading than someone with 2 posts...she's also less likely to walk away when there is a problem, but is rather more likely to try to work toward finding a solution. Why? Because they have already made a time and effort commitment to be a part of this community and are not likely to want to jeopardize that with something mean-spirited or intentionally wrong.

[earobinson]

poofyhairguy guy and matthew rase a good points.

matthew I however feel that the the posts per day are a better (best would be posts in the last month or 6 months or something) at getting a mesure of your interest in ubuntu. but even post per day is better than the total posts
for example:

earobinson: Total Posts: 715 (2.11 posts per day)
poofyhairguy: Total Posts: 5,301 (13.84 posts per day)
aysiu: Total Posts: 4,121 (20.51 posts per day)
matthew: Total Posts: 1,134 (4.97 posts per day)

poofyhairguy has the most posts however aysiu has a higher post per day to me suggesting higher involvment (no one should take this as an insult at all and im not picking on any one (just pick the last 4 posts in this thread) IMO you are all very involved)

I guess my point is that it is possiable for a member to join who is just as active as any one of us but there post count will never represent that fact, however posts per day will

[Big Venus]

Sounds like you are picking earobinson...

I would like to see them go away totally or be like other sites like www.fedoraforum.org and so on... (it would take decades to name almost all the forums that did like ubuntuforums did back in May and June). They count all post including the ones in their community sections.

[Goddess_of_Linux]

I would think that if it is good enough for fedoraforum.org and other forum sites, I think even the forum for darwin/x86 is the same way... They all seem to count the community and support areas as one.

If newbies and other stupid people seem to have problems understanding how the post count works, then they should read all the post that people post to their thread and do like you are suppose to do for any support on the internet, and take it for a grain of salt. This is especially true about any linux distros forums and the windows forums and the bsd forums as well as all chatrooms and channels.

It doesn't make any sense to customize features for certain members. The way it sounds from this this thread, is that most members prefer the counter to count all posts. But ubuntu forum people decided to cater to the few that didn't understand or want the counters and that is wrong.

So, I think that it really is time to either vote on it once and for all, or make it back to the way it was back in the past and do like other forums are doing (counting everything).

Later...
...Linux

[earobinson]

Sounds like you are picking earobinson...

I would like to see them go away totally or be like other sites like www.fedoraforum.org and so on... (it would take decades to name almost all the forums that did like ubuntuforums did back in May and June). They count all post including the ones in their community sections.

picking = pickey???